Franchise Issues

**noe1else** · 03-10-2011, 07:29 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Cubit

You are assuming that the issue is CPU logic. If it is purely a training issue or something similar, it wouldn't necessarily affect RTTS.

It does effect RTTS!!!

**KuruptOwnz** · 03-10-2011, 07:30 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Cubit

You are assuming that the issue is CPU logic. If it is purely a training issue or something similar, it wouldn't necessarily affect RTTS.

Right, but player progression (training as well) isn't going to change from one mode to the next. The only difference is you train yourself and not the team. Also I may be mistaken, but you can't turn training off in RttS, correct?

**noe1else** · 03-10-2011, 07:36 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by KuruptOwnz

Right, but player progression (training as well) isn't going to change from one mode to the next. The only difference is you train yourself and not the team. Also I may be mistaken, but you can't turn training off in RttS, correct?

That is absolutly correct, so you will run into the same problems as in franchise..:wink:

**Cubit** · 03-10-2011, 07:50 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by noe1else

It does effect RTTS!!!

Ok, good to know. Myself and others have asked if it does or not a few times in this thread, and nobody has answered the question.

**WB1214** · 03-10-2011, 08:10 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Meh, if worse comes to worse I'll do a 30-team franchise with Ignore Budgets on, then I can make it as realistic as possible during the offseason. Hopefully they can fix it though!

**Jukeman** · 03-10-2011, 08:54 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

So if I control all 30 teams and play Commish, Im fine?

All of the features work its just the AI not using them right?

Any sim stats bugs I need to know about?

What are the "30 team" house rules/workarounds? I pretty much enjoy controlling every team in sports games, no CPU AI (as of yet) is better than my brain and opinion.

**tabarnes19_SDS** · 03-10-2011, 09:40 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Bill_Abner

I don't have the game in front of me atm but is it possible to play franchise mode by taking out all of the financial stuff and basically going back to reserve clause baseball and improving your team via trades and the draft?

I'd do that in a second rather than manually controlling 30 teams, using multiple profiles and worrying about an AI that can't seem to play its own game in terms of managing budgets and signing players.

Bill,
To be honest with you, if I remember correctly, Knight and I ran tests last year with budgets set to "off" or whatever the setting is called. The results were essentially the same. I am not sure if that feature really works or not.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...10-bug-13.html

**Knight165** · 03-10-2011, 09:44 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Jukeman

So if I control all 30 teams and play Commish, Im fine?

All of the features work its just the AI not using them right?

Any sim stats bugs I need to know about?

What are the "30 team" house rules/workarounds? I pretty much enjoy controlling every team in sports games, no CPU AI (as of yet) is better than my brain and opinion.

Juke...
If you do 30 team...budgets off...you will be able to sign guys as needed....The only house rules I use is my own little set of team budgets.

tb;
I think you're right...in the sense the CPU doesn't take budgets off as spend whatever it takes. I don't know why...I guess that would mean a different set of GM AI codes.
I'm hopeful for the patch for this year.....
But I'm really hoping they just rip the guts out of franchise for '12 and put an all out blitz on it.

M.K.
Knight165

**tabarnes19_SDS** · 03-10-2011, 09:47 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Knight165

Juke...
If you do 30 team...budgets off...you will be able to sign guys as needed....The only house rules I use is my own little set of team budgets.

tb;
I think you're right...in the sense the CPU doesn't take budgets off as spend whatever it takes. I don't know why...I guess that would mean a different set of GM AI codes.
I'm hopeful for the patch for this year.....
But I'm really hoping they just rip the guts out of franchise for '12 and put an all out blitz on it.

M.K.
Knight165

I hear ya. Like I said before I really feel they will try to straighten this out this year.

Not like this group not to at least make an honest attempt, or at very least tell us its not possible.

**Knight165** · 03-10-2011, 09:52 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by tabarnes19

I hear ya. Like I said before I really feel they will try to straighten this out this year.

Not like this group not to at least make an honest attempt, or at very least tell us its not possible.

They would.
Trust me...Kolbe has NO PROBLEM saying..."easy fix"..."yep..we can do it with a little work" or ..."no way, no how".....
The guys saying that the "massively improved" thread was an underhanded attempt to scam 60 bucks from them is beyond comical. That make ZERO sense. But this is the internet and methinks a couple of those guys are the scammers themselves.
My point being...if they can fix it through a patch...I'm sure they will. You have been in contact and know how much it's burning Kolbe up right now.

M.K.
Knight165

**tabarnes19_SDS** · 03-10-2011, 09:59 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Knight165

They would.
Trust me...Kolbe has NO PROBLEM saying..."easy fix"..."yep..we can do it with a little work" or ..."no way, no how".....
The guys saying that the "massively improved" thread was an underhanded attempt to scam 60 bucks from them is beyond comical. That make ZERO sense. But this is the internet and methinks a couple of those guys are the scammers themselves.
My point being...if they can fix it through a patch...I'm sure they will. You have been in contact and know how much it's burning Kolbe up right now.

M.K.
Knight165

I have only limited contact with the devs the last couple years, BUT from every time I have had any communication they have been upfront and receptive. They want this game MORE perfect than we do, it's their baby. Ramone always says under promise over deliver, so when people refer to the "thread" they have to understand that he meant what he said I am sure it was correct there.

I really hate seeing people saying they were lied to etc. These guys would have NO reason to lie. Stand up group and they will always have my business and support.

**jrich730** · 03-10-2011, 10:06 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by Knight165

They would.
Trust me...Kolbe has NO PROBLEM saying..."easy fix"..."yep..we can do it with a little work" or ..."no way, no how".....
The guys saying that the "massively improved" thread was an underhanded attempt to scam 60 bucks from them is beyond comical. That make ZERO sense. But this is the internet and methinks a couple of those guys are the scammers themselves.
My point being...if they can fix it through a patch...I'm sure they will. You have been in contact and know how much it's burning Kolbe up right now.

M.K.
Knight165

I feel what you saying but I personally purchased the game thinking that this would not be an issue. I'm hoping they will tell us if it'll be fixed because I haven't opened the game yet and I have no problem returning it and sticking with 2010 til the price drops.

**KuruptOwnz** · 03-10-2011, 10:11 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by tabarnes19

I have only limited contact with the devs the last couple years, BUT from every time I have had any communication they have been upfront and receptive. They want this game MORE perfect than we do, it's their baby. Ramone always says under promise over deliver, so when people refer to the "thread" they have to understand that he meant what he said I am sure it was correct there.

I really hate seeing people saying they were lied to etc. These guys would have NO reason to lie. Stand up group and they will always have my business and support.

Excuse me, but when games are $60 or so, the economy the way it is, features that were promised free of glitches especially when they were apparent in last years game... You don't like the use of, "Being lied to."?

**dasfette** · 03-10-2011, 10:11 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

No sarcasm meant by this. Serious question:

What in the world happened to the quality control position that the SCEA team posted after last years problems? Does anybody remember this? It was an actual job posted to hardcore baseball fans/gamers to apply and ensure that franchise mode was working like it's real life counterpart. Perhaps following through on that would help prevent these problems. You know, hire someone with a REAL understanding of MLB roster and contract logic. No offense to the devs, and I'm sure they're huge baseball fans. But, they're primary focus is code. I wonder how well they do understand application of contract issues into a GM's mindset.

**tabarnes19_SDS** · 03-10-2011, 10:15 PM

Re: Franchise Issues

Originally posted by KuruptOwnz

Excuse me, but when games are $60 or so, the economy the way it is, features that were promised free of glitches especially when they were apparent in last years game... You don't like the use of, "Being lied to."?

Do you honestly think that they came on OS, started a thread about improvements made to franchise trade logic and budgets, tell us that there was no notable free agents left in sims..........

Then get your money and laugh??

What would they gain???

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