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  • dingleberryfinn
    Banned
    • May 2010
    • 1736

    #136
    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

    Originally posted by Hester
    Ugh... I have no idea why anyone that wants a SIM experience would find generated counts palatable. One of my favorite features in DMB was that it had pitch by pitch in a text based game.

    The most important feature in any baseball game is an interesting, if not realistic pitcher/batter battle. This just feels like a cheap way to overcome the inability of this series to produce even close to realistic pitch counts.

    This would be good for an arcade game, though.
    not everyone is looking for a "true" sim, some are looking for a combination sim, fun game that doesn't eat into their family time. also there are a lot of definitions as to what fun is, so the more options the better, the more people that buy the game will also keep the game around longer for people such as yerself to enjoy!

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    • Teigh Cubs Teigh
      Rookie
      • Nov 2013
      • 129

      #137
      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

      Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
      Yes you can play it in season modes, but not RTTS those experiences are already short. You are prompted after your stadium selection before every game if you would like to play with quick counts on.
      The only thing that somewhat disappoints me is that I was hoping generated counts might make playing as a catcher in RTTS a more palatable option and speed the game up behind the plate.

      Other than that though I have to say that I'm very happy with this feature. It's not even one that I knew that I wanted until I started reading about it to be honest. Together with the ability to carry saves over to '15 and beyond, it will definitely help to make my non-Cubs 'pick a team in need of a rebuild and start from scratch' franchise much easier to do without losing interest.

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      • jripper09
        Rookie
        • Dec 2009
        • 195

        #138
        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

        yea i was hoping they would do the pitch counts similar to the old high heat with 0-0 counts especially the first pitch swingers, the 1-0 and 0-1 counts as well. but still gonna be nice to shorten games without losing al cut scenes and such.

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        • Russell_SCEA
          SCEA Community Manager
          • May 2005
          • 4161

          #139
          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

          Originally posted by jripper09
          yea i was hoping they would do the pitch counts similar to the old high heat with 0-0 counts especially the first pitch swingers, the 1-0 and 0-1 counts as well. but still gonna be nice to shorten games without losing al cut scenes and such.

          Fyi

          Here are all the counts you will see using quick counts Every ball 3 count: 3-0, 3-1, 3-2. Every strike 2 count: 0-2, 1-2, 2-2 (3-2 already counted). Every strike 1 count: 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, (3-1 already counted). 9 counts, out of a possible 12.

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          • Millennium
            Franchise Streamer
            • Aug 2002
            • 9889

            #140
            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

            Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
            Fyi

            Here are all the counts you will see using quick counts Every ball 3 count: 3-0, 3-1, 3-2. Every strike 2 count: 0-2, 1-2, 2-2 (3-2 already counted). Every strike 1 count: 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, (3-1 already counted). 9 counts, out of a possible 12.
            For those of you counting (I kill me with puns), that means you won't see 0-0, 1-0, or 2-0.
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            • KingV2k3
              Senior Circuit
              • May 2003
              • 5881

              #141
              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

              Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
              Fyi

              Here are all the counts you will see using quick counts Every ball 3 count: 3-0, 3-1, 3-2. Every strike 2 count: 0-2, 1-2, 2-2 (3-2 already counted). Every strike 1 count: 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, (3-1 already counted). 9 counts, out of a possible 12.
              Thanks for laying this out in detail...MUCH appreciated...

              Esp. pleased with the "9 out of 12" aspect...

              So, while we're at it:

              If the TOTAL number of pitches thrown in an average MLB game is in the 300 range, how many pitches will we see TOTAL with this option enabled?

              Regards!
              Last edited by KingV2k3; 01-30-2014, 07:24 PM.

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              • jripper09
                Rookie
                • Dec 2009
                • 195

                #142
                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                thanks for responding Russell that sounds pretty good! cant wait to see how you guys implement this feature into this great game!

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                • Heroesandvillains
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #143
                  Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                  Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                  Fyi

                  Here are all the counts you will see using quick counts Every ball 3 count: 3-0, 3-1, 3-2. Every strike 2 count: 0-2, 1-2, 2-2 (3-2 already counted). Every strike 1 count: 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, (3-1 already counted). 9 counts, out of a possible 12.
                  *Grabs calculator*

                  9 counts, divided by a total of 12, divided by 20-30 minute games, times...

                  Screw it! I like these numbers! I'm very happy to see so many counts here! Especially 0-1! Thanks Ramone.

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                  • dingleberryfinn
                    Banned
                    • May 2010
                    • 1736

                    #144
                    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                    Originally posted by KingV2k3
                    Thanks for laying this out in detail...MUCH appreciated...

                    Esp. pleased with the "9 out of 12" aspect...

                    So, while we're at it:

                    If the TOTAL number of pitches thrown in an average MLB game is in the 300 range, how many pitches will we see TOTAL with this option enabled?

                    Regards!
                    My best guess is around 120-150?

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                    • nemesis04
                      RIP Ty My Buddy
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 13530

                      #145
                      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                      Originally posted by dingleberryfinn
                      My best guess is around 120-150?
                      No, it will be much higher then that!
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                      • Curahee
                        100 Miles To Go
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4009

                        #146
                        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                        Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                        *Grabs calculator*

                        9 counts, divided by a total of 12, divided by 20-30 minute games, times...

                        Screw it! I like these numbers! I'm very happy to see so many counts here! Especially 0-1! Thanks Ramone.

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                        • knich
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1116

                          #147
                          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          It most defiantly will that's why it's a game mode and not so much a game option that's tweak-able on the fly. Because pitchers operate under a different energy depletion algorithm in quick counts than they do in a regular game. Along with the different logic for how CPU batter and pitchers approach at bats.
                          In regular game, will we better be able to differentiate a fresh starter from a fatigued starter. Fatigued starters typically lose location as game goes on as do they lose velocity. I do not believe both have been true in years past.

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                          • JoeCoolMan24
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 1255

                            #148
                            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                            Originally posted by Millennium
                            For those of you counting (I kill me with puns), that means you won't see 0-0, 1-0, or 2-0.
                            Poor Joe Mauer, he is going to SUCK in MLB 14!

                            Career splits by those counts...

                            0-0 count: .429 avg
                            1-0 count: .379 avg
                            2-0 count: .379 avg

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                            • KingV2k3
                              Senior Circuit
                              • May 2003
                              • 5881

                              #149
                              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                              Originally posted by dingleberryfinn
                              My best guess is around 120-150?
                              Originally posted by nemesis04
                              No, it will be much higher then that!
                              I would guess (based on what we know) that the game time is cut in half, but I'd believe the the pitch count could be under half (125) / half (150) / over half (175) in that process, so I'm hoping we get some confirmation on that from Russell...

                              That's the only true barometer of how long it would take me to play a game (since my played game times are about 2.5 times above "standard" already)...



                              It also would provide a insight into what percentage of total pitches would be generated as opposed to "played", which would give us a "feel" for what the game will play like...

                              We shall (possibly) see!

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                              • nemesis04
                                RIP Ty My Buddy
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 13530

                                #150
                                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                                Originally posted by KingV2k3
                                I would guess (based on what we know) that the game time is cut in half, but I'd believe the the pitch count could be under half (125) / half (150) / over half (175) in that process, so I'm hoping we get some confirmation on that from Russell...

                                That's the only true barometer of how long it would take me to play a game (since my played game times are about 2.5 times above "standard" already)...



                                It also would provide a insight into what percentage of total pitches would be generated as opposed to "played", which would give us a "feel" for what the game will play like...

                                We shall (possibly) see!
                                Just because your game time is being cut does not mean your pitch count is going to be less. You have to remember you are going to see more mid to late counts which will elevate the total pitches thrown you just will not be experiencing them. Plus this system is bound to generate more walks which will keep pitch counts higher then normal.

                                We are going to see higher pitch counts not lower.
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