MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

[Cavicchi]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

More on Brian Wilson from last year (all he threw was a 4-seam fastball and slider)

http://pitchfx.texasleaguers.com/pitcher/451216/?batters=A&count=AA&pitches=AA&from=3%2F1%2F2011&to=3%2F9%2F2012

[mdbrock7]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Jonny Venters is missing his no. 1 pitch. He should have a 95 mph sinker that he throws 65% of the time. Get rid of his 2 seam fb

[Cavicchi]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Jonny Venters is missing his no. 1 pitch. He should have a 95 mph sinker that he throws 65% of the time. Get rid of his 2 seam fb

He should have a sinker, his number 1 pitch, but he has thrown a 2-seam fastball. According the the link below, he also threw a curve. Last year he didn't throw the curve or 2-seam fastball.

http://pitchfx.texasleaguers.com/pitcher/458924/?batters=A&count=AA&pitches=AA&from=3%2F1%2F2010&to=3%2F9%2F2012

[gator3guy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

JOEL HANRAHAN CP PIRATES

He throws a running fastball, not a 4 seamer. It runs a ton. and its way faster than 94(his in game speed). he averaged 97.1 mph last year on his fastball. and 87 on his slider(which is like 85 in game). my source is fangraphs.com but i don't have time right now to post the link exactly, look it up.

This. Definitely needs an update. He only throws 93-94 in the game. Kind of makes him a completely different pitcher.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...xpitchvelocity

Also Andrew Cashner of San Diego needs a velo update. 91-92 fastball in the game, but averaged 95.4 mph last year.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...xpitchvelocity

[Jason_19]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Also Andrew Cashner of San Diego needs a velo update. 91-92 fastball in the game, but averaged 95.4 mph last year.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...xpitchvelocity

Do The Padres Have the Hardest Thrower in All of Baseball

http://www.lobshots.com/2012/03/05/do-the-padres-have-the-hardest-thrower-in-all-of-baseball/

From the above article:

HardballTalk – Move over Aroldis, the National League might have a new hardest thrower.
As Dan Brooks pointed out, PitchFX data had Padres reliever Andrew Cashner averaging 102.2 mph with his fastball on Sunday. He threw 10 pitches in his scoreless innings out of the pen, all of them heaters. According to the data, they ranged between 100.5 and 103.3 mph.

Here is the pitch f/x data:
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...2F&prevDate=34

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Brandon League

Remove:
4-seam
Changeup

Add:
2-seam
Splitter

I'm not sure if League's fastball should be a 2-seam or a sinker in-game, but I went with the 2-seam because his average velocity is higher than what the sinker allows, plus the pitch runs more than it sinks

source

And Kudos SCEA for finally giving league his own delivery, it's one of the more unique ones in the game

[gator3guy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Do The Padres Have the Hardest Thrower in All of Baseball

http://www.lobshots.com/2012/03/05/do-the-padres-have-the-hardest-thrower-in-all-of-baseball/

From the above article:



Here is the pitch f/x data:
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/...2F&prevDate=34

Hehe, I thought 95 seemed a little low (probably the game he started, lowered his average). Now that he's in the bullpen (most likely), we should see that triple digit heat. Regardless, the 91 they have him at in the game is an underestimation to say the least.

[dkrause1971]

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Pittsburgh James McDonald
Add- Slider
Change- Change up from 76 MPH to 80 MPH
Change- Curve from 74 MPH to 76 MPH

Source- http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...523&position=P

The Change up between so off for McDonald makes him very hard to bat against.

[gator3guy]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Brandon Beachy
Atlanta Braves

ADD: Cutter ~ 91 mph
Slider ~ 83 mph

Remove: 2- seam

[Jason_19]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Pittsburgh James McDonald
Add- Slider
Change- Change up from 76 MPH to 80 MPH
Change- Curve from 74 MPH to 76 MPH

Source- http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...523&position=P

The Change up between so off for McDonald makes him very hard to bat against.

To get an accurate speed on a changeup, you need to make the speed about .2-4. mph faster than the average speed of the pitch. His changeup averaged 81.3 mph in 2010 and 2011, so it probably needs to be 81.4 or 81.6 mph, unless The Show 12 has changed things from The Show 11. Knight said that it's still the same.

It's pointless to change pitch types and speeds now because 99% of the speeds for every pitch that every player throws (combined) will change from season to season. Many of the pitch types change from season to season, also. And the amount of pitches thrown for most pitcher's pitches will change.

Hopefully they make a ton of changes other than what is pointed out here because from the little that I've seen of the pitch attributes so far, they have been almost completely inaccurate.

[OSfan093]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Pittsburgh James McDonald
Add- Slider
Change- Change up from 76 MPH to 80 MPH
Change- Curve from 74 MPH to 76 MPH

Source- http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...523&position=P

The Change up between so off for McDonald makes him very hard to bat against.

It seems like a lot of the change up speeds have been off this year. obviously 4 seam and running fastballs the speed needs to be about 2-3 mph lower in the edit player section, because in game he'll throw that much faster. but the breaking pitches and sinker/2sfb are always rated too slow because in game a 79 mph slider goes 79 if you use a "control" style pitch and throw it up in the zone. if you max it out and throw it down low, like most breaking pitches it only goes like 76. so a guy who averages 79 irl ends up averaging like 76 in the game. at least it was like that in the past.

[Qb]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

Pittsburgh James McDonald
Add- Slider
Change- Change up from 76 MPH to 80 MPH
Change- Curve from 74 MPH to 76 MPH

Source- http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...523&position=P

The Change up between so off for McDonald makes him very hard to bat against.

I agree his changeup needs to be faster, and probably the curve as well. Also, he throws his curve with a knuckle-curve grip, so that's another possible change.

But, I don't know where you're getting the slider from, as I don't see it in the last two years worth of pitches. Is it something you heard he was working on in the spring?

[mr9inchesbpel]

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R.A. Dickey

Change Knuckleball speed from 67 mph to 82 mph
Change Fastball speed from 81 to 84 mph
If possible change his change-up into another knuckle-ball one that goes 69 mph. As in real life he throws a fast knuckleball most of the time and a slow knuckleball to change speeds every now and then.


Proof of this.

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.asp...245&position=P

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/7/28/1592880/knuckling-under-with-two-speeds-ra

Also in this thread it was said that it was done at the community event, but it got changed. If they're is a glitch with giving him a fast knuckleball then can you atleast let us know.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-mph-year.html




Next pitcher

Tim Collins

Change Curveball speed to 74 mph, instead of being at around 81 mph.

Proof

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.asp...164&position=P

[MBMavs20]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

I agree his changeup needs to be faster, and probably the curve as well. Also, he throws his curve with a knuckle-curve grip, so that's another possible change.

But, I don't know where you're getting the slider from, as I don't see it in the last two years worth of pitches. Is it something you heard he was working on in the spring?

I think he might be getting it from the Pitch F/X at Brooksbaseball.net

According to their Pitch F/X, McDonald threw 149 sliders last season, only 5% of his pitches.

If you check his 2010 Pitch F/X, McDonald only threw 30 sliders. It must be a new pitch he is working on. However, he doesn't threw it very fast (81MPH) and I didn't see a whole lot of movement on his slider according to the graph.

Fangraphs did not list a slider for McDonald in 2011. Just his 4 seam, 2 seam, change, and curve.

[Qb]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

I think he might be getting it from the Pitch F/X at Brooksbaseball.net

According to their Pitch F/X, McDonald threw 149 sliders last season, only 5% of his pitches.

Good find. I guess that explains the group pitches near the center of the graph classified as CU/CH: