CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

[Knight165]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Here are some things that pop into my mind:

- walks WAY TOO LOW ... SCEA needs to work on this for next year, they really do.

- homerun numbers are low, too...

- How in the world did the team pitching totals for strikes come to '1', yet the team batting totals for strikes were '66'? I apologize if someone has already answered the post I am answering, I read a bunch of pages in before I couldn't resist posting any longer

- The Cubs struck out way more batters than the Brewers did, but the Brewers' team ERA was significantly better. Who won the series?

....walks....they are there....PLENTY

....homeruns....they also come.....just have to be patient.

I'm 10 games into my season. I've been playing EVERY GAME(AAA and AA) in my franchise so far and this is by far the best time playing manage only mode since ASB2005(when I finally got everything edited). It surpasses in every aspect. Plenty of K's...plenty of walks....some really great performances both offensively and defensively.
In Oliver Perez's first game he gave up 6 runs, 5 walks and 5 K's. His last game(last night) he had 10 K's 2 BB's(only because I left him in to pitch the 9th...he had a shutout...but had thrown 120 pitches already and was gassed) He gave up those 2 BB's in the ninth(with a single sandwiched in between) and I had to pull him. I was up 5-0 at the time and you could just see he was losing it.
The homeruns are a little low for my Mets and I might be a little bothered except if you look at the Mets real life numbers right now....they are hitting no homeruns! I had 4 going into last nights game and had 2 in that game....so I know they will come(from past experience).

If you want to have the ultimate MoM experience....(individual games...not the overall GM experience...and that's only because The Show is missing 40 man rosters/waiver/option years/etc) this game surpasses OOTP IMO.
OOTP gets the edge in overall franchise just because of the things mentioned above....also because it's so easy to change the game to how and what type of baseball league you are playing. It's just so customizable.....but as far as playing the games...The Show is King! IMO!

I've been using default sliders with just these changes

+2 pitch count
-1 CPU baserunning aggresiveness
-1 CPU base stealing(both)
+4 manager hook
and the biggie in my book....
...+5 CPU arm strength.

M.K.
Knight165

[Plez]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Knight,

How are these working for you?

and, which roster are you using?

Plez

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

I gotta tell you guys, i've moved to MOM since I wasnt really enjoying getting so many hits (even with sliders majorly tweaked against). This is my first time ever doing a franchise this way, started over, downloaded knights "unedited" full minors roster, doing struts day to day transactions (love this) and am having more fun then I have ever with a baseball game and I have had one every year for 10 years. IMO this is the way to play, no more worries about sliders etc. I am 9-12 with the RAYS and could not be happier, stats look pretty great with the exception of too few 2b's, but im just gonna live with that. Now if the damn Yanks werent 16-5 lol. Help on the way with Kaz and Garza up soon! This will be my first complete 162 game season that i know i will finish every game, I LOVE THIS MODE!!

[Joepman]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Get the edited roster and you'll be seeing more doubles.

[Knight165]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

I gotta tell you guys, i've moved to MOM since I wasnt really enjoying getting so many hits (even with sliders majorly tweaked against). This is my first time ever doing a franchise this way, started over, downloaded knights "unedited" full minors roster, doing struts day to day transactions (love this) and am having more fun then I have ever with a baseball game and I have had one every year for 10 years. IMO this is the way to play, no more worries about sliders etc. I am 9-12 with the RAYS and could not be happier, stats look pretty great with the exception of too few 2b's, but im just gonna live with that. Now if the damn Yanks werent 16-5 lol. Help on the way with Kaz and Garza up soon! This will be my first complete 162 game season that i know i will finish every game, I LOVE THIS MODE!!

I'm glad you like it.
Even if you go and play the game in a different franchise.....stick with a MoM franchise. There is something great about finding a great player......knowing who has the hot bat...when to pull the pitcher and which reliever to get a guy out......

tgreer.....I'm not telling you to start over....but I play my franchise with the Aub's edit roster. That is the roster that I was going to do anyway, but Aub was GREAT enough to take on doing those edits for me. I was burned out at that point. The reason I put the unedited version was for guys who didn't want the SCEA guys edited. I always edit my rosters and to me...one of the most important was the OF reaction(for the doubles!) and that's what Aub did for me in the set. Try them....You'll start a new franchise on your own!

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Oh yeah....wait 'til you bring in the pinch hitter that wins the game with a walk off homer, or you bring up a guy to fill in for an injured regular and he gets hot and wins you a bunch of games....I love that stuff...

M.K.
Knight165

[a2ndrgmaster]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

i actually played a 2 games that had pretty good result last night. i was using the giants. started my MOM franchise again and played my 5th and 6th game against the brews crews. a 5-3 defeat against ben sheets, and 4-1 defeat against someone. overall had like 2-3 doubles per game for both team. like 2 homeruns, one leadoff HR for me for lewis. prince fielder had couple double in the gap. i am gonan play more to see if this holds up. and this is with modified sliders!!! not default! played at HOF btw.

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Dangit Knight, stop it! Ha, j/k. Yeah, I saw that roster but I was already several games in and loving it. I have started over 6 times (I think, maybe more) so I'm just gonna stick with this one as I am 25 games in now. I watch every pitch, walkup, catcher throwback, etc. so games run anywhere from 90-150 minutes each. With a 2 year old and a wife on my back i'm lucky to get one game/day in. I really appreciate the advice, but that would be about a month setback for me. I REALLY WANT TO DO A FULL SEASON, NEVER HAVE!! I have played i bet 200 games overall so i know i can do it, not even remotely tired of it either. LOVE MoM!! Next year if its same setup, i will definitely use the adjusted OF speed rosters. 2b's my only "off stat." Heres some stats through 25 games if you are curious about your rosters default sliders except PCT +2 and CPU HOOK +4 (per reading your threads) Let me know what you think.

Rays
RECORD 10-15 (1-6 in 1-run games, bad managing? ha, maybe but bad pen also)
AVG .261
ERA 5.06 (Been rough without Kaz and Garza, both to be back very soon)
HITS 224 (8.96)
RUNS 107 (4.28)
2B 17 (0.68) EWW!! This is with 4 in game #25, my most yet
HR 25 (1.0)
BB 80 (3.2)
K 192 (7.68)

Everything but MY RECORD and 2b's I can handle.

[Knight165]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Dangit Knight, stop it! Ha, j/k. Yeah, I saw that roster but I was already several games in and loving it. I have started over 6 times (I think, maybe more) so I'm just gonna stick with this one as I am 25 games in now. I watch every pitch, walkup, catcher throwback, etc. so games run anywhere from 90-150 minutes each. With a 2 year old and a wife on my back i'm lucky to get one game/day in. I really appreciate the advice, but that would be about a month setback for me. I REALLY WANT TO DO A FULL SEASON, NEVER HAVE!! I have played i bet 200 games overall so i know i can do it, not even remotely tired of it either. LOVE MoM!! Next year if its same setup, i will definitely use the adjusted OF speed rosters. 2b's my only "off stat." Heres some stats through 25 games if you are curious about your rosters default sliders except PCT +2 and CPU HOOK +4 (per reading your threads) Let me know what you think.

Rays
RECORD 10-15 (1-6 in 1-run games, bad managing? ha, maybe but bad pen also)
AVG .261
ERA 5.06 (Been rough without Kaz and Garza, both to be back very soon)
HITS 224 (8.96)
RUNS 107 (4.28)
2B 17 (0.68) EWW!! This is with 4 in game #25, my most yet
HR 25 (1.0)
BB 80 (3.2)
K 192 (7.68)

Everything but MY RECORD and 2b's I can handle.

Looks good!
Also, if you want to see the OF try and throw out more runners DIRECTLY(less use of the cut-off man) raise CPU Arm Strength to +5.
If you want....it's easy to do...just lower the OF reaction for your team and then the team you are facing and a "sister" A.L. team and you'll be done in no time. Drop it by 25.
The minor leaguers are already set...so it's just the ML(actually any SCEA guys).
Have fun....IMO...best Manage only Mode game ever made.
Here's a little hint....if your pitcher gets a batter 0-2 or even 1-2 for great hitters(Pujols, Howard come to mind for me).....use the PITCH AROUND for one or two pitches(it doesn't do it for the whole at bat when you use it...either the long way or the shortcut which is L Shoulder button and triangle)...GREAT WAY TO GET K's(or at least outs!)

M.K.
Knight165

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Oh yeah, forgot that one. CPU ARM STRENGTH has been +5 from the beginning, definitely makes a difference. Trust me I have seen it, I'm sure you have cussed out your third base coach a time or two as well. One comes to mind last game down 7-5 to Red Sox bottom 9, Iwamura leads off with single, Crawford then single to right and Iwa gets HOSED AT THIRD!!!! Woulda been 1st and 2nd no outs, 3-4-5 coming up. I was livid, but loved it (if that makes sense).
Thanks for the tip about Pitch Around, hadnt thought about using it in those circumstances. Ive only used it in key spots with base open etc. Definitely will give it a shot. I actually don't feel as bad about my record as I should, lost couple of heartbreakers or would be .500 or so. I had the O's primed for the sweep (woulda been my first) and Percival on the mound who was 5-5 in save opp. with a 5-1 lead in the ninth. I had pitched great for 26 innings in the series, then Perc couldnt get an out. They scored 4 then won in the 10th. I could go on and on, sorry if longwinded, just love this damn game. :wink:

[Knight165]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Oh yeah, forgot that one. CPU ARM STRENGTH has been +5 from the beginning, definitely makes a difference. Trust me I have seen it, I'm sure you have cussed out your third base coach a time or two as well. One comes to mind last game down 7-5 to Red Sox bottom 9, Iwamura leads off with single, Crawford then single to right and Iwa gets HOSED AT THIRD!!!! Woulda been 1st and 2nd no outs, 3-4-5 coming up. I was livid, but loved it (if that makes sense).
Thanks for the tip about Pitch Around, hadnt thought about using it in those circumstances. Ive only used it in key spots with base open etc. Definitely will give it a shot. I actually don't feel as bad about my record as I should, lost couple of heartbreakers or would be .500 or so. I had the O's primed for the sweep (woulda been my first) and Percival on the mound who was 5-5 in save opp. with a 5-1 lead in the ninth. I had pitched great for 26 innings in the series, then Perc couldnt get an out. They scored 4 then won in the 10th. I could go on and on, sorry if longwinded, just love this damn game. :wink:

Not at all....I wish more people would post their experiences.
I know what you mean about being pissed and loving it!


M.K.
Knight165

[LetsGoBucs]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Hey Knight - which version of the roster file are you using? Does it matter? I looked in the roster thread and it seems there are a few different varieties - including one with pitching adjustments.

Just wondering, as I would like to start a MOM franchise (well, another one ) this weekend. I'm tired of trying to get more 2b's on my own...

Thanks!

[Knight165]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Hey Knight - which version of the roster file are you using? Does it matter? I looked in the roster thread and it seems there are a few different varieties - including one with pitching adjustments.

Just wondering, as I would like to start a MOM franchise (well, another one ) this weekend. I'm tired of trying to get more 2b's on my own...

Thanks!

I personally use three...but that's just because I'm experimenting.
I use the first one with no edits just the full minors...
The second one with Aub's edits and the full minors ...
and the last one that has everything....the full minors/aubs edits/brunos faces/struts stances/razrs pitch edits.

I'd go with the last one...the all encompassing one. It's the best IMO.

M.K.
Knight165

[LetsGoBucs]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

I personally use three...but that's just because I'm experimenting.
I use the first one with no edits just the full minors...
The second one with Aub's edits and the full minors ...
and the last one that has everything....the full minors/aubs edits/brunos faces/struts stances/razrs pitch edits.

I'd go with the last one...the all encompassing one. It's the best IMO.

M.K.
Knight165

Thanks! I'll give that one a shot.

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Something strange happened in my game today that i had not seen. I was in the 12th tied 5-5 with the Red Sox. Top of 12th, they had none on 2 out. Lowrie routine grounder to SS who threw into dugout (Lowrie to 2nd) I thought great here we go again. Lugo proceeded to hit a pop up on the line toward 1st, i would guess it traveled 70 feet. I was excited about the inning being over, but Pena jogged toward the bag, instead of 20 feet in front of him. Now this was a high pop up, so he had all day, instead my CATCHER takes off towards the ball. He almost got there (thats how high it was). Ball drops between the two, Lowrie scores, I lose 6-5 as I dont score in bottom half and get swept at home AGAIN. Knight have you seen this before or should i just make myself happy and tell myself Pena lost it in the white roof? LOL. BTW 4 doubles 2 games in a row after having 13 in 24 games! Now a fantastic 1-7 in 1 run games and 0-3 in extras.