CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

[SoxChamp]

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SoxChamp - Have you tried other teams or are you only playing with the Reds? Just curious.

I started a franchise with the Nats and am only 2 games in, but I've seen a few extra base hits. Not a ton, but a couple.

I play only as the Reds, but I've been playing against a bunch of different teams, and the opponents aren't hitting doubles either. The only team I've played that has hit a fair amount of doubles so far was the Yankees. Go figure. Everyone else has quicksand offense like my Reds.

But as far as the Reds go, they should not be struggling with this. The Reds have never had offensive problems. It's always been their pitching that has been offensive.

[bkrich83]

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Yeah, I know. I've seen your box scores and they look great. But I can't replicate that no matter what combination of settings, sliders, and difficulty I try. Like I said in the other thread, my latest game last night featured 16 total hits....all singles.

I sure wish I had any inkling of an idea as to why, to help you out. Unfortunately I don't.

[SoxChamp]

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I sure wish I had any inkling of an idea as to why, to help you out. Unfortunately I don't.

Yeah, it's frustrating. I've left the sliders on default like you have them for several games, and I just don't see how you're seeing HR's. Last night was the 3rd straight game with no HR's from either side. The batters just don't seem to have enough power. But strangely enough, whenever I try to raise the Power slider, all offense down the drain for some reason...like it's messing something up.

[LetsGoBucs]

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I play only as the Reds, but I've been playing against a bunch of different teams, and the opponents aren't hitting doubles either. The only team I've played that has hit a fair amount of doubles so far was the Yankees. Go figure. Everyone else has quicksand offense like my Reds.

But as far as the Reds go, they should not be struggling with this. The Reds have never had offensive problems. It's always been their pitching that has been offensive.

You're right about the Reds! Haha...

Are you doing a franchise or just exhibitions? And if you're doing a franchise, have you made it out of Spring Training yet?

The reason I ask is that during my Franchise with the Nats, I did play a few spring games and I had no extra base hits either. As soon as the regular season started (again - only 2 games in) I started seeing a few doubles and there have been HR's in each game.

Just trying to get to the bottom of this, because when I start my real franchise, it will be with the Pirates and you want to talk about an offensive offense!

[WMWolverine]

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I'm 5 games into my franchise and getting good results with the Tigers... 4-1 so far, in the middle of game #6, losing to the White Sox...

Sliders are far from deault, pretty extreme sliders in an attempt to get more walks. Walks aren't quite where I'd like even at the extreme slider settings but the gameplay is awfully good otherwise...

Like everyone else, lack of doubles are an issue as outfielders cut pretty much everything off in the gap unless it's smoked.

[bkrich83]

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Yeah, it's frustrating. I've left the sliders on default like you have them for several games, and I just don't see how you're seeing HR's. Last night was the 3rd straight game with no HR's from either side. The batters just don't seem to have enough power. But strangely enough, whenever I try to raise the Power slider, all offense down the drain for some reason...like it's messing something up.

Yeah, sometimes I believe sliders do more harm than good. I am not only seeing HR's but a good number of doubles and the occasional triple. I wish I had some magic fix for you. I'll keep my eye out though. I may try to hit Kolbe up this week,and see if he has any suggestions.

[doncoryell]

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I am going to have time on Saturday to test the sliders that I had posted earlier in the discussion.

Soxchamp, I will be using your Cincinnati Reds with the test. I tried to test them before going to work but I only was able to play 1 1/2 innings of the opening day game vs. Arizona. Harang had 1 strikeout in his 1 1/2 innings of work plus had allowed a few hits, including a double into the rcf gap. During the first inning Eric Byrnes took Harang 13 pitches to finish the at bat. During his only inning of work, Webb allowed two hits, including a home run by Votto into the bullpen in rf, and had struck out one.

The sliders that are not listed in my post will be at the default for testing sake. I will be using the 40-man roster as of 3/15/08 plus the lineup and pitching rotation that was in the Athlon magazine.

[SoxChamp]

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You're right about the Reds! Haha...

Are you doing a franchise or just exhibitions? And if you're doing a franchise, have you made it out of Spring Training yet?

The reason I ask is that during my Franchise with the Nats, I did play a few spring games and I had no extra base hits either. As soon as the regular season started (again - only 2 games in) I started seeing a few doubles and there have been HR's in each game.

Just trying to get to the bottom of this, because when I start my real franchise, it will be with the Pirates and you want to talk about an offensive offense!

I'm in Spring Training, though I don't know how that would make a difference. Surely the AI doesn't realize it's ST, and if anything, ST should yield MORE offense as the bullpens tend to get emptied.

[SoxChamp]

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Yeah, sometimes I believe sliders do more harm than good. I am not only seeing HR's but a good number of doubles and the occasional triple. I wish I had some magic fix for you. I'll keep my eye out though. I may try to hit Kolbe up this week,and see if he has any suggestions.

Are you seeing HR's from the middle of the road guys too, rather than just with the obvious Power hitters?

[doncoryell]

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Here is what my version of the Reds' roster will look like for my test:


Position Players (12)


Starting Lineup
1. Ryan Freel, cf
2. Joey Votto, 1b
3. Ken Griffey, Jr, rf
4. Brandon Phillips, 2b
5. Adam Dunn, lf
6. Edwin Encarnacion, 3b
7. Alex Gonzalez, ss
8. David Ross, c

Bench
Scott Hatteberg
Jeff Keppinger
Corey Patterson
Javier Valentin


Pitchers (13)

Rotation
1. Aaron Harang
2. Bronson Arroyo
3. Matt Belisle
4. Homer Bailey
5. Bobby Livingston

Bullpen
Bill Bray
Jared Burton
Todd Coffey
Francisco Cordero
Gary Majewski
Mike Stanton
Edinson Volquez
David Weathers


The following players I have will be in the minors:

Pitchers
Jeremy Affeldt
Jim Brower
Jon Coutlangus
Josh Fogg
Marcus McBeth
Tom Shearn

Catchers
Ryan Hanigan

Infielders
Juan Castro
Jerry Gil
Andy Phillips

That's 35 out of 40. That should hold me for the span of my test.

SoxChamp, pitcher Bobby Livingston is still on the 60-day DL, recovering from surgery for a torn labrum. Should I still have him in the #5 slot or should I have Volquez in his place?

[bkrich83]

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Are you seeing HR's from the middle of the road guys too, rather than just with the obvious Power hitters?

Yup. The middle of the road guys have hit a few also. Casey Kotchman and Tad Iguchi are the first two that come to mind.

[LetsGoBucs]

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I'm in Spring Training, though I don't know how that would make a difference. Surely the AI doesn't realize it's ST, and if anything, ST should yield MORE offense as the bullpens tend to get emptied.

I agree that it shouldn't make a difference, I'm just trying to understand all of the variables. BK seems to be playing regular season games, and he's seeing no problems (BK - correct me if I'm wrong). And in a small sample size for me, I so no extra base hits in Spring, but I saw them in the regular season. Food for thought.....

[bkrich83]

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I agree that it shouldn't make a difference, I'm just trying to understand all of the variables. BK seems to be playing regular season games, and he's seeing no problems (BK - correct me if I'm wrong). And in a small sample size for me, I so no extra base hits in Spring, but I saw them in the regular season. Food for thought.....

No you are correct. I skipped ST and went straight to the regular season.

[SoxChamp]

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That's 35 out of 40. That should hold me for the span of my test.

SoxChamp, pitcher Bobby Livingston is still on the 60-day DL, recovering from surgery for a torn labrum. Should I still have him in the #5 slot or should I have Volquez in his place?

Livingston will not be in the rotation this year. Volquez has impressed and will surely be #5.

[doncoryell]

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Livingston will not be in the rotation this year. Volquez has impressed and will surely be #5.

Okay. I'll put him in the fifth spot.

I have already managed the first two games of the regular season and am currently in the 4th inning of the 3rd game between Arizona & Cincinnati. I'll post the boxscores and you can pm me if you want the play-by-play. (Reds are 1-1).