CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Yeah, those K numbers seem pretty good. That was my main problem with default sliders...I saw very few strikeouts, especially from the lower end teams in the league. I play as the Reds, and I'd be lucky to see 2 every game.

I had the same problem last year and everyone told me I was nuts...until someone finally broke down and played a game as the Reds also and saw the very same thing. I think the lower end teams don't quite get the same numbers as you just saw, nor do they get the numbers they SHOULD be. Matt Belisle isn't exactly in the same league as Oswalt and Peavy, but he still should be striking out more guys than ZERO.

I had another game. Angels vs. Twins. Lackey vs. Livian Hernandez. In 7 2/3 innings Lackey struck out 9, Hernandez struck out 5 in 7 innings.

Unfortunately those are the only games that I remember specifics. I'll start keeping track more, for the time being.

[ericjwm]

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What you guys are soon going to discover is that the difficulty setting DOES matter for MOM & CPUvsCPU. There seems to be more offense on the higher difficulty levels. I have no idea why Brian the AI guy claimed that it didn't have any effect.

[LetsGoBucs]

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After a days worth of playing, I'm getting frustrated with the lack of extra base hits. I can't seem to find a way to get them (for me or the CPU). It just seems like the OF's are in the right place every time and get to the ball extremely fast so guys have to stop at first.

I'm not having trouble with K's and BB's, just extra base hits... Gotta keep experimenting I guess.

[SoxChamp]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

After a days worth of playing, I'm getting frustrated with the lack of extra base hits. I can't seem to find a way to get them (for me or the CPU). It just seems like the OF's are in the right place every time and get to the ball extremely fast so guys have to stop at first.

I'm not having trouble with K's and BB's, just extra base hits... Gotta keep experimenting I guess.

Try lowering fielder reaction and raising the Hit Quality slider. I really think the Hit Quality slider is the key to extra base hits. Afterall, doubles are of greater *hit quality* than singles, are they not? The more your players can drive the ball, the better...and hit quality is directly responsible for this. I currently use Contact at +2 (from default) and Power at +2 (from default). I just managed a game where the computer had 4 doubles, though my team had none. If you are dead set on not doing this because you think it's going to negatively affect hit variety, then you are never going to solve your problem. IMO.

[SoxChamp]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

What you guys are soon going to discover is that the difficulty setting DOES matter for MOM & CPUvsCPU. There seems to be more offense on the higher difficulty levels. I have no idea why Brian the AI guy claimed that it didn't have any effect.

I will give it a shot and see what happens.

There was a discussion about this before....with the theory that a higher difficulty should make CPU players (in our case, all of them) play tougher and smarter. It would only make sense that the offense would then crank up. But are you seeing plenty of K's and BB's as well?

[ericjwm]

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I will give it a shot and see what happens.

There was a discussion about this before....with the theory that a higher difficulty should make CPU players (in our case, all of them) play tougher and smarter. It would only make sense that the offense would then crank up. But are you seeing plenty of K's and BB's as well?

Yeah, the K's & walks are looking pretty good. I've tried it on All-Star mostly since on HOF the pitchers seem to get knocked around a little too much. So give it a try on All-Star difficulty & see what you think.

[SoxChamp]

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Yeah, the K's & walks are looking pretty good. I've tried it on All-Star mostly since on HOF the pitchers seem to get knocked around a little too much. So give it a try on All-Star difficulty & see what you think.

I just played a game on All-Star. Two runs on 5 hits. Granted, it was only one game, but the theory that higher difficulty levels produce more offense didn't show up here.

I still think there is no difficulty in MOM. If you look at the options in-game, there is no difficulty setting. It doesn't exist. Outside of the game in the main menu, there is a difficulty setting for 1P and 2P. There is no 1P and 2P in Manage Only mode. Even with sliders, the 1P and 2P sliders do nothing. Only sliders marked 'CPU' have an effect, and there is no 'CPU' difficulty.

Not trying to argue...just relaying what I see. I'll continue to check it out, but I am seeing NO offense whatsoever. The league leading team in doubles has 25. I have 4. Something is seriously wrong with this part of the game, and my theories above about Hit Quality don't seem to be working.

[ericjwm]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

I just played a game on All-Star. Two runs on 5 hits. Granted, it was only one game, but the theory that higher difficulty levels produce more offense didn't show up here.

I still think there is no difficulty in MOM. If you look at the options in-game, there is no difficulty setting. It doesn't exist. Outside of the game in the main menu, there is a difficulty setting for 1P and 2P. There is no 1P and 2P in Manage Only mode. Even with sliders, the 1P and 2P sliders do nothing. Only sliders marked 'CPU' have an effect, and there is no 'CPU' difficulty.

Not trying to argue...just relaying what I see. I'll continue to check it out, but I am seeing NO offense whatsoever. The league leading team in doubles has 25. I have 4. Something is seriously wrong with this part of the game, and my theories above about Hit Quality don't seem to be working.

Try the HOF difficulty while raising both pitch speed & power to 11. If that still doesn't do the trick then move both up to 12. You can Leave hit quality on 10 or decrease it to 9 if they're hitting the ball too solidly.

I had a game the other day (on All-Star) where I was managing the Twins & lost to the Angels 11-6. Torii Hunter & Mathews Jr hit back to back HR's & there were also a few doubles in the game. My main problem though is trying to keep the hit totals(singles) to a minumum & so far I've failed.

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

I just played a game on All-Star. Two runs on 5 hits. Granted, it was only one game, but the theory that higher difficulty levels produce more offense didn't show up here.

I still think there is no difficulty in MOM. If you look at the options in-game, there is no difficulty setting. It doesn't exist. Outside of the game in the main menu, there is a difficulty setting for 1P and 2P. There is no 1P and 2P in Manage Only mode. Even with sliders, the 1P and 2P sliders do nothing. Only sliders marked 'CPU' have an effect, and there is no 'CPU' difficulty.

Not trying to argue...just relaying what I see. I'll continue to check it out, but I am seeing NO offense whatsoever. The league leading team in doubles has 25. I have 4. Something is seriously wrong with this part of the game, and my theories above about Hit Quality don't seem to be working.

I'll ask Kolbe when he gets back for some clarification.

[bkrich83]

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Just started another game in my Padres Season.

Astros @ Pads. Chris Young pitching for SD. Tejada homers to left, and Berkman doubles down the left field line in the first inning. Young also k'd Kaz Matsui.

Edit: Carlos Lee just singled in Berkman. 2-0 Houston Top of first.

One More Edit: Bottom of 1st. Wandy Rodriguez strikes out Giles and Iguchi, walks Adrian Gonzalez and gets Kouzmanoff to ground out to 3rd.

So far Default "HOF" which I am not sure has any influence has again started to play pretty well for me.

[ericjwm]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Just started another game in my Padres Season.

Astros @ Pads. Chris Young pitching for SD. Tejada homers to left, and Berkman doubles down the left field line in the first inning. Young also k'd Kaz Matsui.

Edit: Carlos Lee just singled in Berkman. 2-0 Houston Top of first.

Seems like you're experiencing some damn good results on HOF setting. Are you seeing a high amount of hits though, especially singles? I like for the hit totals to be no more than 6 or 7 above the total runs scored (for each team). Which is about what happens in most real MLB games.

[bkrich83]

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Seems like you're experiencing some damn good results on HOF setting. Are you seeing a high amount of hits though, especially singles? I like for the hit totals to be no more than 6 or 7 above the total runs scored (for each team). Which is about what happens in most real MLB games.

My first game the Padres scored 5 runs on 13 hits. 2 HR's and a double. The Astros scored 4 runs on 8 hits and had 0 homers, and a couple of doubles.

[ericjwm]

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Those doubles & HR totals seem fairly good, except the 5 runs on 13 hits kinda bothers me. But I guess that's unavoidable as of now.
I'm trying to experiment with certain sliders to see if I can remedy the high abundance of singles. Hopefully something will work in the long run.

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU vs. CPU (and MOM) discussion

Those doubles & HR totals seem fairly good, except the 5 runs on 13 hits kinda bothers me. But I guess that's unavoidable as of now.
I'm trying to experiment with certain sliders to see if I can remedy the high abundance of singles. Hopefully something will work in the long run.

I had a couple of rally killing double plays. Remember also I am the Pads, and they are basically a station to station ball club. And it was in 10 innings.

Actually if you've watched SD at all, it pretty much is exactly how they have performed the last few years. Clutch hits are a rarity, while rally killing DP's are not. LOL.

[bkrich83]

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Looks like Chris Young doesn't have his good stuff tonight.

Top of 4. Walks Matsui and Berkman. Strikes out Tejada, and gives up a 3 run jack to Carlos Lee. He strikes out Pence to end the inning.

After 3 and a half innings. Astros 5 runs on 4 hits. Padres 3 runs on 4 hits.