TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

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  • JoeC
    Look Watch
    • Mar 2003
    • 289

    #661
    Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

    Still loving these sliders I am now 10-7 with my Cubs. The only change that I have made since my last post is human solid hits to 3. I have raised my team avg to .243. I will post an update of my stats with the sliders when I finish April.
    BCS Express - TCU (yr 1 12-1)(yr 2 10-2)

    OsVets 1 - Texans
    OSVets 2 - Raiders (9-7 afc west champs)
    4th & 1 - 49ers

    LOEG - Pittsburgh Penguins (11-8-4)

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    • PsychoBulk
      Hoping for change...
      • May 2006
      • 4191

      #662
      Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

      Due to the wind being "fixed" in the new patch...

      - Wind influence reduction based on extensive tests versus real life stats and community feedback
      ...having it at 3 was meaning all games were very calm, it therefore makes sense to go back to default on wind.

      With that tweak in mind as the only change, here is the latest set...

      (change in bold)

      Human Contact - 6
      Human Power - 4
      Human Timing - 5
      Human Foul Frequency - 5
      Human Solid Hits - 2
      Human Starter Stamina - 5
      Human Reliever Stamina - 2
      Human Pitcher Control - 5
      Human Pitcher Consistency - 6
      CPU Contact - 6
      CPU Power - 4
      CPU Timing - 5
      CPU Foul Frequency - 5
      CPU Solid Hits - 2
      CPU Starter Stamina - 5
      CPU Reliever Stamina - 2
      CPU Pitcher Control - 5
      CPU Pitcher Consistency - 6
      CPU Strike Frequency - 1
      CPU Manager Hook - 5
      CPU Pickoffs - 5
      Pitch Speed - 4
      Fielding Errors - 7
      Throwing Errors - 5
      Fielder Run Speed - 2
      Fielder Reaction - 5
      Fielder Arm Strength - 3
      Baserunner Speed - 4
      Baserunner Steal Ability - 4
      Baserunner Steal Frequency - 5
      Wind - 5
      Injury Frequency - 6


      Thanks
      TNK & Psycho

      p.s. TNK will edit the first post of the thread to reflect this change when hes back from his break.

      Thanks.

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      • The Chef
        Moderator
        • Sep 2003
        • 13684

        #663
        Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

        Originally posted by JoeC
        Still loving these sliders I am now 10-7 with my Cubs. The only change that I have made since my last post is human solid hits to 3. I have raised my team avg to .243. I will post an update of my stats with the sliders when I finish April.
        With solid hits being raised to 3 do you think it makes that big of a difference? Im sitting at 3-3 in 6 games so far but my team batting average is .199 which is of course dead last in the league. I finished my most recent game with a total of 3 hits but had plenty of pitches to hit that my guys just popped up, hit weak grounders or missed entirely so Im hoping to help with this and the solid hits slider sounds like the best remedy for that. I noticed you altered some other sliders so if you dont mind letting me know what youre seeing either here or through PM it would be much appreciated.
        http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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        • Heroesandvillains
          MVP
          • May 2009
          • 5974

          #664
          Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

          Originally posted by The Chef
          With solid hits being raised to 3 do you think it makes that big of a difference? Im sitting at 3-3 in 6 games so far but my team batting average is .199 which is of course dead last in the league. I finished my most recent game with a total of 3 hits but had plenty of pitches to hit that my guys just popped up, hit weak grounders or missed entirely so Im hoping to help with this and the solid hits slider sounds like the best remedy for that. I noticed you altered some other sliders so if you dont mind letting me know what youre seeing either here or through PM it would be much appreciated.
          Solid Hits is not an incredibly sensitive slider. I have mine set to default, with run speed at 4, and have a hard time getting above .230. Are you timing only? If so, I'd raise it if you're convinced you've played enough to see that this just isn't a cold streak.

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          • JoeC
            Look Watch
            • Mar 2003
            • 289

            #665
            Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

            Originally posted by The Chef
            With solid hits being raised to 3 do you think it makes that big of a difference? Im sitting at 3-3 in 6 games so far but my team batting average is .199 which is of course dead last in the league. I finished my most recent game with a total of 3 hits but had plenty of pitches to hit that my guys just popped up, hit weak grounders or missed entirely so Im hoping to help with this and the solid hits slider sounds like the best remedy for that. I noticed you altered some other sliders so if you dont mind letting me know what youre seeing either here or through PM it would be much appreciated.
            I was batting around .220 8-10 games in when I made the switch. I don't know if it has really made much of a difference, or if my hitters just got hot. I also switched from timing to zone at that same time.

            My other changes were cpu pitch control 4 consist 6 and strikes 2. That's just what I always roll with on those settings and they always give me good results. Right now through 17 games I have walked 51 times.
            I think your team is just off to a cold start. Stick with it I am sure by the end of April that average will be up. This game just like real Baseball is a game of slumps that can be totally frustrating and hot streaks that make you think its to easy. In the end the numbers all seem to work out though.
            BCS Express - TCU (yr 1 12-1)(yr 2 10-2)

            OsVets 1 - Texans
            OSVets 2 - Raiders (9-7 afc west champs)
            4th & 1 - 49ers

            LOEG - Pittsburgh Penguins (11-8-4)

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            • mlblover15
              3X MLBTS Champion
              • Dec 2004
              • 4144

              #666
              Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

              well after trying out seemingly every slider set for Veteran difficulty level i finally said forget it. i had started and restarted games and complete franchises again and again.

              I'm currently getting ready to start my Weekend series against the Mariners. I played the final game against Boston using these sliders and had, well a pretty good game.

              Clay Buckholz vs Gio Gonzalez. both pitchers lasted 7 innings. Gio wen tout on a 14 in a row set down pace. i did lose the game however 3-2 as they scored off my reliever Zeigler in the eighth inning.

              offensively (i use 1/6 guess pitch) i couldn't get anything at all going. the only offense i could muster was a 2-run home run to tie up the game.

              I felt that the sliders were good, i have found out a little secret when it comes to my starting pitchers however. once your pitchers get to around 50% energy is when you will start to really start to watch them.

              pitch counts were good for the most part. i did walk a few hitters in the game. i think i did get walked at least once. should have been more but i have a really bad habit of pressing hard when i have 2-strikes on me. so i end up swinging at balls out of the zone.

              the one thing i have to keep reminding myself of when i do that is that it happens just as much to the real life players. i still want to break or rather snap my controller in half when it happens but i just tell myself that they do it too.

              looking forward to going forward with these, hopefully i have finally found a home. i don't know if i can try to jump to another set before throwing in the towel and giving up.
              "Baseball is life, without Baseball life itself ceases to exist." - Ken Sprague

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              • Bobhead
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 4926

                #667
                Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                For such a long post, you didn't really provide any information. What was wrong with all the other sets you used? What are the issues you are experiencing, that are frustrating you so much?

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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #668
                  Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                  Originally posted by JoeC
                  I was batting around .220 8-10 games in when I made the switch. I don't know if it has really made much of a difference, or if my hitters just got hot. I also switched from timing to zone at that same time.

                  My other changes were cpu pitch control 4 consist 6 and strikes 2. That's just what I always roll with on those settings and they always give me good results. Right now through 17 games I have walked 51 times.
                  I think your team is just off to a cold start. Stick with it I am sure by the end of April that average will be up. This game just like real Baseball is a game of slumps that can be totally frustrating and hot streaks that make you think its to easy. In the end the numbers all seem to work out though.
                  I sure hope so because I feel myself falling right into the same problems I have every year with this game, the CPU cant score and I cant hit so every damn game turns into these 2-1, 3-2, 2-0 type games and those cant hold my interest long enough to finish a season. Played another game since the post, batting average dropped to .190 after going 9/55 as the game went 16 innings and I ended up losing by all too familar score of 3-2, extremely irritating to say the least. You have pitch speed at default? Im about to start lowering it as Im late on everything to the point that I have to basically look away all the time as I cant turn on anything inside to save my life. Im gonna give it some more time but if this keeps up then Im ditching these sliders and just running default and letting the chips fall where they may.
                  http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                  • BleacherCreature
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 3160

                    #669
                    Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                    You know Chef once I switched to zone from analog I am late on almost everything too.
                    Feels like it should be the opposite but oddly it's not.

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                    • Bobhead
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4926

                      #670
                      Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                      Analog Hitting takes longer to execute, so you can expect this to be the case. I used to always play with pitch speed turned down 1 point when I played with Analog.

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                      • BleacherCreature
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 3160

                        #671
                        Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                        No no, my swing is later on zone.
                        Analog I was early on everything, zone I'm late.
                        I need a setting called zonalog and I'll be fine.

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                        • PsychoBulk
                          Hoping for change...
                          • May 2006
                          • 4191

                          #672
                          Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                          Originally posted by JoeC
                          I was batting around .220 8-10 games in when I made the switch. I don't know if it has really made much of a difference, or if my hitters just got hot. I also switched from timing to zone at that same time.
                          There is your reason.

                          Same as it was for me if you read some previous posts...these sliders with Timing are brutally hard, on Zone its a totally different ball game and much more realistic.

                          I use Zone with no PCI movement and all my extra base hits are back where they should be.

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                          • Chappy
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 925

                            #673
                            Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                            So you must aim your swing with stick for Zone?

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                            • mlblover15
                              3X MLBTS Champion
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 4144

                              #674
                              Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                              Originally posted by Bobhead
                              For such a long post, you didn't really provide any information. What was wrong with all the other sets you used? What are the issues you are experiencing, that are frustrating you so much?
                              well first of all either there is way too much offense on both sides or just one side. then there is the issue of pitch counts being way too low for user. as in having a starting pitcher in the 6-7th inning with less than 50 pitches.

                              my pitching system is for the most part good, like i said as long as i remember to check my energy im good. offensively is where i struggle, most of it MY fault as i explained my 2-strike issues.

                              i guess im still expecting to be able to play on default on any level and compete. same as i did with 08.

                              ok just quit another game... i cant do it anymore.. i just cant... i cant do the non exsistant offense... no hitting is driving me nuts... i give up!!!!
                              "Baseball is life, without Baseball life itself ceases to exist." - Ken Sprague

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                              • PsychoBulk
                                Hoping for change...
                                • May 2006
                                • 4191

                                #675
                                Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                                Originally posted by Chappy
                                So you must aim your swing with stick for Zone?
                                No, thats the point, i do not touch the L-Stick, the PCI covers most of the zone anyway, and if a CPU pitcher paints the corners on me and i miss, too good, fairplay, good pitching.

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