TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

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  • northface28
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 762

    #856
    Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

    Originally posted by TNKNGM
    Does anybody feel like POWER should maybe be lowered ine notch to 3 for both the Human and CPU?

    I'm not ready to make that change yet - but I have a feeling that may be the next refinement we come across. I'm wondering if that could cause some HR's to scrape the wall and turn into doub;es and triples.

    Thoughts?
    Kind of, I have 5 HRs with Juan Pierre, 1 is inside-the-park though, but still. 5 HRs for him and it hasnt been 50 games is kind of ridiculous.

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    • Scott
      Your Go-to TV Expert
      • Jul 2002
      • 20032

      #857
      Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

      Originally posted by northface28
      Cosign. Im averaging a K per inning or higher with Peavy, Danks, Santos, Crain, Sale, & Thornton. Even with all that, im 28th in strikeouts as a team. Why? Buerhle, Floyd, Ohman, & Jackson. Im actually not throwing a lot of BBs, that concerns me.
      As far as walks, you have to pitch to the corners and edges. Don't be afraid to walk someone. I've thrown 50 walks in 25 games now. I'm still tied for 1st with Philly, but I've thrown 25 in my last 7, so 3.5 per game in that span.
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      • Infinite202
        Rookie
        • Jul 2006
        • 417

        #858
        Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

        Originally posted by TNKNGM
        Does anybody feel like POWER should maybe be lowered one notch to 3 for both the Human and CPU?

        I'm not ready to make that change yet - but I have a feeling that may be the next refinement we come across. I'm wondering if that could cause some HR's to scrape the wall and turn into doubles and triples.

        Thoughts?
        I think this might be a good idea. I am about 2 and a half weeks into my franchise and here are my HR totals (timing hitting):

        -Arod - 6
        -Texeira - 7
        -Granderson - 4
        -Swisher - 5
        -And everyone else has another 4-5 combined

        A little too much, would you say? I'm hoping this balances out at some point during the season.

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        • Carlboy82
          Banned
          • May 2010
          • 398

          #859
          Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

          Originally posted by TNKNGM
          Does anybody feel like POWER should maybe be lowered one notch to 3 for both the Human and CPU?

          I'm not ready to make that change yet - but I have a feeling that may be the next refinement we come across. I'm wondering if that could cause some HR's to scrape the wall and turn into doubles and triples.

          Thoughts?
          No doubt in my mind, that's what needs to be done. Seeing too many games with 3 to 6 Home Runs.

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          • BIG_FRISCH_DADDY
            Rookie
            • Feb 2010
            • 2

            #860
            Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

            Aren't u guys just dominating pitching on all star? I play with the Brewers and on all star Greinke, Marcum, and Gallardo are unhittable. HOF is as close as I can get it, bumped my team ERA up to mid-3's.

            Thanks TNK and PsychoBulk, if it wasn't for u two I woulda threw this game out long ago!

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            • pdawg17
              Pro
              • Mar 2004
              • 937

              #861
              Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

              The difficulty with the POWER setting is it depends greatly on the team you are using (with exceptions like Juan Pierre)...I play with the A's and I've had nothing but "warning track" power the first 10 games...I can't get anything to leave the yard...

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              • BIG_FRISCH_DADDY
                Rookie
                • Feb 2010
                • 2

                #862
                Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                Yea, i'm thinking bumping Human Power down might be the way to go...i'm gonna give it 4 more games though and check my home run average...it should be just over 1...Rickie Weeks wont stop hitting deep balls!

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                • coreyhartsdaughter
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1107

                  #863
                  Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                  Originally posted by northface28
                  Cosign. Im averaging a K per inning or higher with Peavy, Danks, Santos, Crain, Sale, & Thornton. Even with all that, im 28th in strikeouts as a team. Why? Buerhle, Floyd, Ohman, & Jackson. Im actually not throwing a lot of BBs, that concerns me.
                  I saw this and was just responding to a similar comment elsewhere from last night. I'd say you need to pitch on HOF or above. If you're not being forced to throw balls you're not playing on the right level.

                  The nibble argument is sort of silly in my opinion. Why nibble if the CPU has such a low BABIP that when you mix up your pitches well enough and put 75% of the balls in the zone the CPU STILL won't be able to do a thing?
                  Last edited by coreyhartsdaughter; 05-05-2011, 01:42 PM.

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                  • coreyhartsdaughter
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1107

                    #864
                    Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                    Originally posted by TNKNGM
                    Does anybody feel like POWER should maybe be lowered one notch to 3 for both the Human and CPU?

                    I'm not ready to make that change yet - but I have a feeling that may be the next refinement we come across. I'm wondering if that could cause some HR's to scrape the wall and turn into doubles and triples.

                    Thoughts?
                    I think Contact is the issue for you guys, not Power. I'd wager a Jeff Suppan jersey that if you played with contact at 4 (or even 3) you'd hit half the HR you're hitting now with only a slight ding to BA. (although K's might increase, but that's up to the USER to remedy, not an effect of Sliders)

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                    • Bobhead
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4926

                      #865
                      Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                      Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                      I think Contact is the issue for you guys, not Power. I'd wager a Jeff Suppan jersey that if you played with contact at 4 (or even 3) you'd hit half the HR you're hitting now with only a slight ding to BA. (although K's might increase, but that's up to the USER to remedy, not an effect of Sliders)
                      Definitely agree with this.

                      I also speculate that Strike Frequency at 1 causes the pitcher to fall behind far more often, which leads to more "pitches to hit," and the low Pitch Speed makes it easier to perfectly position the PCI. Obviously optimal Pitch Speed is subjective, but I am of the opinion that Pitch Speed should not be lowered to the point where pitches are easy to read, the idea is to only lower it to the point where you can keep up.

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                      • PatriotJames
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1204

                        #866
                        Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                        Originally posted by Bobhead
                        Definitely agree with this.

                        I also speculate that Strike Frequency at 1 causes the pitcher to fall behind far more often, which leads to more "pitches to hit," and the low Pitch Speed makes it easier to perfectly position the PCI. Obviously optimal Pitch Speed is subjective, but I am of the opinion that Pitch Speed should not be lowered to the point where pitches are easy to read, the idea is to only lower it to the point where you can keep up.
                        lol i lowered it all the way to 0 and i'm still late on pitches...

                        IDK how anyone can read the pitches at the current speed. You guys are crazy! LOL

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                        • Bobhead
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 4926

                          #867
                          Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                          Maybe you just need to practice more. I started with a low pitch speed too, but when it didn't help, I tried a higher pitch speed, and it actually made me better. The trick is to follow the pitch out of the pitcher's hand and recognize it as soon as possible.

                          Also you are supposed to be late on fastballs, that's why they aren't called slowballs!

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                          • Infinite202
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 417

                            #868
                            Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                            Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                            I think Contact is the issue for you guys, not Power. I'd wager a Jeff Suppan jersey that if you played with contact at 4 (or even 3) you'd hit half the HR you're hitting now with only a slight ding to BA. (although K's might increase, but that's up to the USER to remedy, not an effect of Sliders)
                            It wouldn't surprise me if this was in fact the case.

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                            • coreyhartsdaughter
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1107

                              #869
                              Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                              Originally posted by Bobhead
                              Definitely agree with this.

                              I also speculate that Strike Frequency at 1 causes the pitcher to fall behind far more often, which leads to more "pitches to hit," and the low Pitch Speed makes it easier to perfectly position the PCI. Obviously optimal Pitch Speed is subjective, but I am of the opinion that Pitch Speed should not be lowered to the point where pitches are easy to read, the idea is to only lower it to the point where you can keep up.
                              Another awesome point.

                              The diminished strike frequency paired with the AI's pitching approach on All Star may also contribute to a lot of late count strike pitches. (to compensate for the increased balls thrown early count).

                              This is why looking at pitchers strike % is so subjective, sure they may be throwing 62% strikes, but if 80% of them are in hitters counts, something's amiss.

                              You're second point hits home (ha) as well. I think more guys should consider raising timing to 6 or 7, but increasing pitch speed to a point where (in the beginning) they have a hard time hitting high fastballs or inside pitches.

                              It also feels like the visable difference of off speed pitches versus a fastball decreases at lower pitch speeds. I know I for one hit more HRs on off speed pitches (there's clearly some 'bonus' attributed to good timing on poorly located off speed stuff, cause' they just fly off the bat)

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                              • BlingBling19
                                Pro
                                • May 2010
                                • 658

                                #870
                                Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                                Perhaps I will try these on HOF and see what happens. When I used them on all-star I just dominated pitching and the CPU offense was just non-existent.

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