Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[Armor and Sword]

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Had to share with all the talk about quick hooks. Now I have seen a few I have questioned but this one to me doesn't get any more realistic.

Bot 6: 86' Mets up 3-1 over 82' Braves

Darling pitching well for CPU but does have an elevated pitch count mid 70's.

Gets the first hitter on a called strike. Pitch count now 83.

Next hitter singles first pitch fastball.

Walks the next batter. Pitch count 92 figured here may be the hook but no.

Walks next batter. Pitch count 98 surely here right? Still no.

Bases loaded and he is still in there!

Needless to say next batter singles in two runs to tie the game. Now the hook!!

Slider set at 2 is giving me very realistic situations. I have seen guys pitch into the 7th and 8th inning more now. Truthfully though I have not seen to many questionable hooks to begin with as some have. Also no homers in the game from either team. I won 5-4!!

Awesome sauce Vols!!!

[BlueJays09]

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Thanks for all of the hard work with your sliders. I use them every year as well. Tried out a play now game while I wait for OSFM to release with your sliders and was down 4-0 in the third to Baltimore. They had 6 hits to my 1 (3 homers from Baltimore) after 4 innings and then I had to turn it off as I was called away for something. Looking forward to get more practice with these in the coming days. Might play around with the batting camera as I am using Offset Zoom right now. I have always liked MLB 15 camera, but will give the offset zoom a try for now.

Thanks again!

[Lett0407]

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Yeah...that is the toughest part of the game for me. I don't issue nearly as many walks as I draw. Josh1977 came up with a great suggestion in turning off the controller "vibration" and that combined with no ball marker will yield you a much better balls to strike ratio and also amp up the challenge.

I am going to try that as I play my 2017 Yankees spring training (oh yes we are playing Spring Training to get acquainted with that wonderful haul of prospects the Yankees took in last season) which will begin this weekend!

So I will report back how that goes (I am prepared to get lit up too LOL)

Lol! Well, there is a lot to like as a Yankee fan! They may be a year or even two away, but that can change quickly with a good first half and the trade deadline. As a Sox fan, they are not a team I like playing right now. Well, of course I like playing them, but you know what I mean.

Should be an exciting few years for the Sox & Yanks! A lot of young talent on both sides and is starting to feel a little bit like the early 2000s when both organizations saw the clashes that laid ahead. You have to love it!

And good luck in spring training, and thanks again! I will take the advice of yourself and Josh1977 and see how turning off the vibration helps. (No girl I know has ever said that, lol!) It's a bit of a tough spot, because I want to have a feel for where I am attempting to throw, but not to the degree I only walk one guy every 12-13 innings!

[StormsWarning]

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so has there been any updates specific to slider 2.0 that needs changing ?

i've just been watching tons and tons of real baseball so i'm out the loop ...

[volsfan39]

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I have been testing the pick off slider. I run quite a bit with 80's rosters and was getting picked off at an alarming rate. I have settled at 4 for now it seems to be a good slot for me. I have still been picked off don't get me wrong. But not every time I take an extended lead like was happening before.

I have found that running this year is a lot harder than in the past which I am very thankful for. I have been thrown out multiple times with an extended lead with 80+ speed guys. Last year I quit taking extended leads because I felt it wasn't fair. Nice to have some Cat N Mouse back in.

[Lett0407]

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Good point! I noticed the same issue with the pickoffs the last couple of years. I will have to try this. I was getting picked off at an alarming rate — just to add a step to the lead-off! Thanks!

[G3no_11]

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I have found that running this year is a lot harder than in the past which I am very thankful for. I have been thrown out multiple times with an extended lead with 80+ speed guys. Last year I quit taking extended leads because I felt it wasn't fair. Nice to have some Cat N Mouse back in.

I have mostly only played RTTS and seeing this is odd to me because when I was using these sliders for RTTS, it was ridiculous how easy it was. In my first year in AA I had 76 stolen bases and only caught stealing 3 times with about a month of the season left. I was called up to AAA and I believe I was at 9 SB's, 0 CS in about 3 weeks. Often times I don't even take a lead at all, even when stealing 3rd.


I will post up the running/stealing sliders I'm using now when I'm able to but I dropped quite a few of the sliders in terms of the running game. Still don't have a large sample size from the recent subtractions but something definitely needed to be changed. Just an FYI for those planning to use these in RTTS.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

so has there been any updates specific to slider 2.0 that needs changing ? -
i've just been watching tons and tons of real baseball so i'm out the loop ...

- Not as of yet. I am still playing games and will be diving into a new franchise this weekend when #OSFM17 drops. Plus I really want to wait for the gameplay patch 1.03 before I even move forward with any more potential tweaks.

I have been testing the pick off slider. I run quite a bit with 80's rosters and was getting picked off at an alarming rate. I have settled at 4 for now it seems to be a good slot for me. I have still been picked off don't get me wrong. But not every time I take an extended lead like was happening before.

I have found that running this year is a lot harder than in the past which I am very thankful for. I have been thrown out multiple times with an extended lead with 80+ speed guys. Last year I quit taking extended leads because I felt it wasn't fair. Nice to have some Cat N Mouse back in.

- Excellent stuff right here and exactly what I mean about tuning to your play style or desires!!!


Remember too perks are a huge thing this year! I love them. I check them every AB!!! Some pitchers have the pick off perk and you better know what you are up against!!!

[MoneyMan17]

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URGENT PSA:

WOW. I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK.

I had never before used the Offset Zoom hitting camera that is recommended with these sliders. I had always used Catcher High, which I'm not sure why I liked, and then more recently since 17 came out I have used Fish Eye.

Anyway, decided for one game to give this Offset Zoom a try and oh. my. god. I have NEVER been able to see the ball better in my entire 6 years of playing this game. My timing has NEVER been more consistently perfect. I have only played ONE inning with this camera and batted around the Yankees order and put up a five spot against Martin Perez of Texas.

So for anyone not using this camera, ESPECIALLY if you have trouble reading pitches and with timing, PLEASE give it a try!!! I beg you!! I am shook. Hitting has never felt so easy and almost feels TOO easy! This could be beginners luck and maybe I am overreacting as I have played only literally one inning with it, but I am currently hating myself for never trying this camera before.

Wow.

**UPDATE**
I am in disbelief as I just put up a 3 spot after 2 quick outs and had 8 batters in the 2nd to take a 8-0 lead. Knocked out Perez after 1.2 IP with 7 hits, 8 runs (all earned), 2 walks and 2 Ks.

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Final score: Yankees: 17. Texas: 5. 6th inning scored 6 runs with no outs, topped off by a grand slam from Judge. Was held scoreless after that however!

[StormsWarning]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

URGENT PSA:

WOW. I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK.

I had never before used the Offset Zoom hitting camera that is recommended with these sliders. I had always used Catcher High, which I'm not sure why I liked, and then more recently since 17 came out I have used Fish Eye.

Anyway, decided for one game to give this Offset Zoom a try and oh. my. god. I have NEVER been able to see the ball better in my entire 6 years of playing this game. My timing has NEVER been more consistently perfect. I have only played ONE inning with this camera and batted around the Yankees order and put up a five spot against Martin Perez of Texas.

So for anyone not using this camera, ESPECIALLY if you have trouble reading pitches and with timing, PLEASE give it a try!!! I beg you!! I am shook. Hitting has never felt so easy and almost feels TOO easy! This could be beginners luck and maybe I am overreacting as I have played only literally one inning with it, but I am currently hating myself for never trying this camera before.

Wow.

**UPDATE**
I am in disbelief as I just put up a 3 spot after 2 quick outs and had 8 batters in the 2nd to take a 8-0 lead. Knocked out Perez after 1.2 IP with 7 hits, 8 runs (all earned), 2 walks and 2 Ks.

**
Final score: Yankees: 17. Texas: 5. 6th inning scored 6 runs with no outs, topped off by a grand slam from Judge. Was held scoreless after that however!

yeah it is great, Armor showed me that cam, i used it a lot in 16,but this year for 17 i'm using Fish Eye, it just gives me a much more clean look on the entire field as well as the stadium.

[Armor and Sword]

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Absolutely brilliant idea from Josh1977


I have turned off controller vibration!! And it is glorious.

If you are an advanced classic All-Star pitcher and want a true challenge.

No ball marker no controller vibration.



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[MLPtxrangers77]

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Welp, there it is. The post that has convinced me to head to gamestop in a bit and grab it this morning.

You need to ASAP. 17 is freaking amazing!!!

[MLPtxrangers77]

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Fish eye is the worst. Pitcher looks like he's a mile away... I will give offset zoom a try.

[MLPtxrangers77]

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Armor, why do you like Fish Eye so much? Doesn't Pitcher look & feel like he's too far away? I'm retro + my heavy adjustments. Also going to try offset zoom when I get home. Also made move to PS4 Pro & wow.

[volsfan39]

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I have mostly only played RTTS and seeing this is odd to me because when I was using these sliders for RTTS, it was ridiculous how easy it was. In my first year in AA I had 76 stolen bases and only caught stealing 3 times with about a month of the season left. I was called up to AAA and I believe I was at 9 SB's, 0 CS in about 3 weeks. Often times I don't even take a lead at all, even when stealing 3rd.


I will post up the running/stealing sliders I'm using now when I'm able to but I dropped quite a few of the sliders in terms of the running game. Still don't have a large sample size from the recent subtractions but something definitely needed to be changed. Just an FYI for those planning to use these in RTTS.

I haven't played RTTS yet this year. I always felt it was to easy to steal bases though when I used to play it. Be sure and please keep us updated on what works best for ya..