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  • The Chef
    Moderator
    • Sep 2003
    • 13684

    #1216
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Originally posted by forme95
    Armor, I was watching your stream of the Reds and notice you use sponsorship. Any rhyme or reason to it? Dating back to 15' I thought there was some issue with using them. I really don't remember now. I just never did.

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    I think it's mainly because the CPU doesn't use endorsements so they don't get that extra cash that we get when using them, thus a somewhat unfair advantage.
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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21786

      #1217
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      Originally posted by forme95
      Armor, I was watching your stream of the Reds and notice you use sponsorship. Any rhyme or reason to it? Dating back to 15' I thought there was some issue with using them. I really don't remember now. I just never did.

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      Great question Forme.

      So here is the deal with sponsorship's. I employ 30 team control. So I assign sponsorship's to every team in the league based on market size (Silver, Gold and I have just one Diamond Sponsorship so far LOL), and team strengths.

      For example:

      The Tampa Bay Rays have all silver sponsorship's as they are a small market team.

      The Yankees are 2 Gold and One Diamond

      The Detroit Tigers are 2 Golds one Silver

      You get the picture.

      The issue was the CPU would not assign sponsership's in single team control. So you had a clear "financial" advantage. So in my Cardinals fantasy franchise where I employed single team control (and it will be the last time I ever do single team control as I love having the ability to correct and control the CPU logic) I do not use sponsorship's.

      BTW did you stick around for the end of the game? a 2-0 Yankees win. A ho hum performance, but Ardolis Chapman almost blew the save yielding two walks and then a bomb was hit......but thank god a 5 MPH win was blowing in and kept it at the wall for Aaron Hicks (who got the start in CF) to snare.

      The Reds are bad. I fear no one except Votto. Tough times in Cincy for sure. I expect to win the second game of this quick 2 game set this afternoon when I get home from work.
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      • Armor and Sword
        The Lama
        • Sep 2010
        • 21786

        #1218
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Originally posted by JayD
        Thoughts on this Armor?
        This is such a personal choice IMO. It really is based on your skill level.

        I am a very disciplined hitter and a very strong classic pitcher. I had to up the CPU contact to fear them more and lower control and consistency and turn off vibration.

        It has made this a new game for me without having to move up to HOF. I love All-Star and feel the the balance of this game shines on this level.

        What are you trying to accomplish?
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        • nunogomes
          MVP
          • Oct 2005
          • 1107

          #1219
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          I have my left stick set where I want before he throws the pitch and hold it there through the swing.
          Oh men... i was sure that it wasn´t necessary to hold the left stick through the swing to influence it. I thought that i just needed to press it once, see the blue arrow and it was done, the influence was on...

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          • VincesVictims
            Pro
            • Aug 2014
            • 773

            #1220
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            Originally posted by Trojan Man
            I was seeing league-average HR numbers. I saw everything from wall-scrapers to laser shots, and I saw no-doubters as well.

            My sense is that there may be a discrepancy between how much wind affects fly balls IRL and how much it affects them in the game.

            Once I turned wind back up to 5 with A&S's sliders post-patch 1.05, I could immediately see the difference that wind makes, and I think the wind factor could be the biggest contributor to the HR frequency thing.

            In my LAD franchise, I'm seeing wind of 5 MPH or so having a significant impact and carrying balls further than they should go. What this looks like, to me, is rocket shots that should probably drop as warning-track or off-the-wall doubles become HRs.

            Lowering wind by 2 clicks would make a difference, I believe, but it would also allow you to still see some of the benefits of the wind acting on the ball, which are pretty cool this year, especially with the spin you see from the round ball-round bat interaction.
            Freddie Freeman hit 12 hr the first month for me. In the last month and a half he has only hit 8 so things will balance out.

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            • forme95
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3118

              #1221
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              BTW did you stick around for the end of the game? a 2-0 Yankees win. A ho hum performance, but Ardolis Chapman almost blew the save yielding two walks and then a bomb was hit......but thank god a 5 MPH win was blowing in and kept it at the wall for Aaron Hicks (who got the start in CF) to snare.

              The Reds are bad. I fear no one except Votto. Tough times in Cincy for sure. I expect to win the second game of this quick 2 game set this afternoon when I get home from work.


              Thanks Armor....... Why you got to ruin the ending I was only 35 min into the stream. Watching it at work when I had time to go back to it.


              However, like real life baseball, I can know the score and still enjoy watching the game play out.
              Last edited by forme95; 05-03-2017, 11:51 AM.
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              • JayD
                All Star
                • Mar 2004
                • 5457

                #1222
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                This is such a personal choice IMO. It really is based on your skill level.

                I am a very disciplined hitter and a very strong classic pitcher. I had to up the CPU contact to fear them more and lower control and consistency and turn off vibration.

                It has made this a new game for me without having to move up to HOF. I love All-Star and feel the the balance of this game shines on this level.

                What are you trying to accomplish?
                I'm a littel afraid of giving advantages or disadvantages to the human or CPU. I'm not a slider guru so I don't know a lot of what needs to be done to balance the game out.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21786

                  #1223
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  Originally posted by JayD
                  I'm a littel afraid of giving advantages or disadvantages to the human or CPU. I'm not a slider guru so I don't know a lot of what needs to be done to balance the game out.
                  Simply plug in my settings and play man. Trust me....just keep playing game after game after game and enjoy the season. You will see it all. Just when you think you are too good....you will be humbled.
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                  • VincesVictims
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 773

                    #1224
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    Simply plug in my settings and play man. Trust me....just keep playing game after game after game and enjoy the season. You will see it all. Just when you think you are too good....you will be humbled.
                    Absolutely said perfectly guys just play the game and enjoy. This game goes and streaks just like in real life there is no reason to continue to change the sliders after every 10 games enjoy the greatest baseball game we have ever played

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                    • VincesVictims
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 773

                      #1225
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      Simply plug in my settings and play man. Trust me....just keep playing game after game after game and enjoy the season. You will see it all. Just when you think you are too good....you will be humbled.
                      One more thing you guys are just complaining about the stats what is everybody's record in your season. Because no matter the stats I feel that every game is competitive. If you're like 50 and five then I understand maybe you're too good. But just guessing I believe most of us are having competitive games with winning and losing

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                      • sc050610
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 229

                        #1226
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        Armor,

                        Thank you for the hard work to make these sliders. I am using the Orioles in my Franchise on all-star difficulty for both hitting and pitching. I use directional hitting and classic pitching.

                        My stats for both pitching and offense are pretty realistic but I keep feeling like I am striking out the CPU too much. I am into June and keep having these stretches where each starter will strikeout 12-14 guys over a 5-6 inning outing. Normally, I wouldn't think too much of it if i was using different team with a better rotation but it just doesn't feel right with the Orioles rotation and still giving up realistic runs and hits per game. For example, I played the Red Sox back in May of the schedule with Kevin Gausman on the mound, and over 5.1 innings of work he struck 11 guys while giving up 4 runs on 9 hits. These type of outing have become the regular. Runs and hits given up are realistic but strikeouts just seem too high on a consistent basis.

                        I tried pitching on Hall of Fame difficulty but I just get slammed too often. Which slider should i adjust to try and offset the high number of CPU strikeouts?

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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21786

                          #1227
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by sc050610
                          Armor,

                          Thank you for the hard work to make these sliders. I am using the Orioles in my Franchise on all-star difficulty for both hitting and pitching. I use directional hitting and classic pitching.

                          My stats for both pitching and offense are pretty realistic but I keep feeling like I am striking out the CPU too much. I am into June and keep having these stretches where each starter will strikeout 12-14 guys over a 5-6 inning outing. Normally, I wouldn't think too much of it if i was using different team with a better rotation but it just doesn't feel right with the Orioles rotation and still giving up realistic runs and hits per game. For example, I played the Red Sox back in May of the schedule with Kevin Gausman on the mound, and over 5.1 innings of work he struck 11 guys while giving up 4 runs on 9 hits. These type of outing have become the regular. Runs and hits given up are realistic but strikeouts just seem too high on a consistent basis.

                          I tried pitching on Hall of Fame difficulty but I just get slammed too often. Which slider should i adjust to try and offset the high number of CPU strikeouts?
                          Drop your consistency to 2.
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                          • Brandwin
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 30621

                            #1228
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Weird thing about injuries - I was playing on 8 and I have seen one, Cole Hamels had to leave the game (forgot the injury) but when I sim at 5 I hardly see any. So I have been just keeping it at for sim and play games at 8. So far sim injuries don't seem too crazy.

                            BTW I play one game per series and sim the rest.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21786

                              #1229
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Originally posted by Brandwin
                              Weird thing about injuries - I was playing on 8 and I have seen one, Cole Hamels had to leave the game (forgot the injury) but when I sim at 5 I hardly see any. So I have been just keeping it at for sim and play games at 8. So far sim injuries don't seem too crazy.

                              BTW I play one game per series and sim the rest.
                              Oh just wait.....you will see. LOL.
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                              • forme95
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 3118

                                #1230
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by Brandwin
                                Weird thing about injuries - I was playing on 8 and I have seen one, Cole Hamels had to leave the game (forgot the injury) but when I sim at 5 I hardly see any. So I have been just keeping it at for sim and play games at 8. So far sim injuries don't seem too crazy.

                                BTW I play one game per series and sim the rest.
                                I also keep mine on 8 year round. What you should see is, a rash of injuries at some point and then it settles back. I've seen a string of players (around the league) go down to the point I wanted to back off the slider but didn't. Then as the season went on, it really kind of mellowed out with just a few here and there.

                                Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
                                Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                                Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                                CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                                MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                                Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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