Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[Armor and Sword]

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That last part is not true. Russell Ramone's even said that. You can move and change your swing influence up until the point of contact.


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Ok then.

I suggest to have it locked in......I found it is not nearly as effective changing mid pitch...then you are just guessing.

I am sitting on a pitch when I use directional. You will drive yourself crazy trying to adjust mid pitch like that.

That is called pressing and you will no doubt go into a slump guessing/adjusting mid pitch.

You have to sit on a pitch in hitters counts. Otherwise...you will get frustrated easily.

I don't view directional hitting as a stick skill mini game. I use it as a tool to lock in on a particular situation and hit accordingly in a hitters count with it.

[EWRMETS]

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Well your point is kind of moot as we are not playing default AS. And again I was only letting everyone know what was working for me, nothing more or nothing less.
And the #'s don't I went from a .228 team batting average to a .270 over the last 6 games. I went from not hardly ever getting any extra base hits to getting a ton.
And again read the whole post, I don't always stick to these rules so they are not hard rules.

These sliders and AS default are really not too different but I hear you. I'd recommend you be more aggressive with guys that have the first pitch quirk or middle of the order but whatever works for you.

[Armor and Sword]

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These sliders and AS default are really not too different but I hear you. I'd recommend you be more aggressive with guys that have the first pitch quirk or middle of the order but whatever works for you.

I love that first pitch quirk with Gary Sanchez. I have hit 3 of his 7 HR's this season on first pitch fastballs using the power button and the left stick up in the 12 o'clock position.

It's pretty awesome. All of them were bombs.

[jake44np]

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These sliders and AS default are really not too different but I hear you. I'd recommend you be more aggressive with guys that have the first pitch quirk or middle of the order but whatever works for you.

Oh I hear you and I have swung at a few first pitches with Votto the last few games.
The moment that I start swinging at first pitches is the moment I start not taking enough pitches again.
I think it is key to get the SP pitch count up and get to the CPU's bullpen.
For some reason I have way more success vs relief pitchers.

[Gagnon39]

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Ok then.



I suggest to have it locked in......I found it is not nearly as effective changing mid pitch...then you are just guessing.



I am sitting on a pitch when I use directional. You will drive yourself crazy trying to adjust mid pitch like that.



That is called pressing and you will no doubt go into a slump guessing/adjusting mid pitch.



You have to sit on a pitch in hitters counts. Otherwise...you will get frustrated easily.



I don't view directional hitting as a stick skill mini game. I use it as a tool to lock in on a particular situation and hit accordingly in a hitters count with it.

It's really more like MVP's hitting when you move it mid-pitch. I feel like that was the best hitting I've ever played with. While it's not going to be very effective to move the stick from up and in to down and away, it is reasonable to be looking middle and then move the stick away as you pick up on an outside pitch.

If there's any question on whether the influence can be changed you can see it when you have camera shift on. You can see it shift up until the point when you swing.


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[JoshC1977]

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Speaking for myself......If I have a 2-0 count with my leadoff hitter or my hitter leading off an inning. I work that count to get on base.

I can tell you I have drawn plenty of 3-0 3-1 counts taking on 2-0. But if it is not my leadoff hitter or lead off of an inning or a batter facing a new pitcher first....dead red...one pitch one spot and I crush it.

But even sometimes...dead red middle in I can sometimes fly out or ground out. And of course smoke a pitch right at someone LOL. "At them bombs" I call them.

Oooooo, baseball tactics discussion....I'm in

2-0 counts...to swing or not to swing, that is the question....I think this is one of the most strategic counts in baseball....

SO many factors for me....a few include

• Who is hitting? Weak hitter, I take.
• Who is pitching and what is the handedness matchup (platoon splits)?
• Game situation - do I need to advance runners or get on-base? Likelihood of a double-play factors-in here.
• How has the pitcher been pitching recently? If he is struggling (i.e. lower pitch confidence), I am more apt to swing.
• How has the batter been performing? If slumping, I am going to take.

Now, if I have made a decision that I might swing, I am looking for a pitch where I want it....and not necessarily one that I can drive; maybe I want one to hit to the opposite field, maybe I need that fly ball to advance the runner.


So many little dynamics....just love it!!!!

[BoomerHB52]

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I love that first pitch quirk with Gary Sanchez. I have hit 3 of his 7 HR's this season on first pitch fastballs using the power button and the left stick up in the 12 o'clock position.

It's pretty awesome. All of them were bombs.

You have better luck than me LOL. Everytime I have Gary up I'm salivating at the first pitch and the CPU throws me a curveball on the dirt

[NewNapkin]

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I've figured out my problem, but I don't know how to fix it.

I never take strikes. It is too easy for me to read that a pitch will be a strike, so I swing at it and hit it. I looked at the pitcher analysis after the game, and there were only two pitches in the zone that I took. This leads to a low pitch count and low strikeout count for the CPU pitcher. I tried bumping up pitch speed, and it didn't help. I suppose I just want to be fooled more at the plate... but I'm not sure how.

[bcruise]

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I've figured out my problem, but I don't know how to fix it.

I never take strikes. It is too easy for me to read that a pitch will be a strike, so I swing at it and hit it. I looked at the pitcher analysis after the game, and there were only two pitches in the zone that I took. This leads to a low pitch count and low strikeout count for the CPU pitcher. I tried bumping up pitch speed, and it didn't help. I suppose I just want to be fooled more at the plate... but I'm not sure how.

As a zone player this problem kind of solves itself for me(because you won't hit if you frequently swing outside the PCI), but on directional I could definitely see that being a problem. You could try the same approach as me - that is, focusing on one smaller area of the plate as though there were a PCI there and only swinging when the ball enters that area until two strikes. With two strikes you have to protect so just take your normal approach.

This sort of approach might help you focus more on timing than where the ball is, and if you're able to time up a pitch correctly (and the directional "luck" factor is with you), you might be able to make more quality contact (for most hitters, this is pulling the ball for more power).

Just an idea. This is the approach I've found the most success with in zone.

[EWRMETS]

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I've figured out my problem, but I don't know how to fix it.

I never take strikes. It is too easy for me to read that a pitch will be a strike, so I swing at it and hit it. I looked at the pitcher analysis after the game, and there were only two pitches in the zone that I took. This leads to a low pitch count and low strikeout count for the CPU pitcher. I tried bumping up pitch speed, and it didn't help. I suppose I just want to be fooled more at the plate... but I'm not sure how.

How are you hitting though? I foul off or hit for weak contact pitches on the corners.

[JoshC1977]

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I've figured out my problem, but I don't know how to fix it.

I never take strikes. It is too easy for me to read that a pitch will be a strike, so I swing at it and hit it. I looked at the pitcher analysis after the game, and there were only two pitches in the zone that I took. This leads to a low pitch count and low strikeout count for the CPU pitcher. I tried bumping up pitch speed, and it didn't help. I suppose I just want to be fooled more at the plate... but I'm not sure how.

Oh man....this used to be me...and this is tough to break. You sort of have to go with the approach of, "If he throws me a pitch in xyz part of the zone, I will swing, otherwise I will take it."

Real life comparison, Chris Davis versus Joey Votto. Swing at everything versus being selective.

Imo, this is as much a mental thing as anything....

[TomahawkChopYaHead]

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That's awesome to hear Jake. Does that feel liberating or what? It is so essential to be patient, know your hitters, know the pitcher you are facing, pick up patterns, I actually don't watch his confidence meter, I use my instincts, but I suggest do what has you grooving the ball!!!

And trust me, you will go through slumps, go through some periods of free swinging (that's what we call pressing during a slump) and even getting locked up on fastballs down the pipe. The variety and ebb and flow of a 162 season is something to truly experience.

I realize playing every pitch of every inning can be a grind....but with MLBTS17 it is not. It is a true journey through a baseball season. And with Y2Y saves there is no reason not to play almost every game so you can really experience the true roller coaster of emotions you can go through playing baseball at the professional level on a console.

It is incredible. I can't help myself. I have to play every game. I just finished an awesome 3 game series with the Cubs.

Starlin Castro returned to Chicago....boo's were raining down in game two as he stepped to the plate to face Pedro Strop, 2 outs.....bases jammed with 3 ducks on the pond. Strop brushes him back on the first pitch with a scorching 94 MPH fast ball under his chin. Castro smiles as he soaks in the boo's raining down from Wrigley. Strop set's and deals a slider that bends and causes Castro to leap towards the left batters box.

1-1

Another country fastball, fouled back then another slider down and away for a ball...

2-2

The Yankees lead this game 2-1, we are in the top of the 8th inning, Strop is looking to lock this down to allow his Cubbies to get up and get going and steal another win. The previous night in game one the Cubs won on a bases loaded walk to Anthony Rizzo by Ardolis Chapman. Another former (rented) Cub who went back to the Pinstripes and was welcomed back with the same fever pitch of boo's.

Strop comes set.....2-2 pitch....a scorching fastball down.....and Castro hits an absolute, no doubt GRAND SLAM.

Starlin Castro rounds the bases as Wrigley Field stands in utter shock. A quiet hush overcomes the Chicago faithful and the Yankees go on to take this game 6-1.

Starlin Castro goes 2-4 with a grand slam and all 6 RBI's for his Yankees against his former team.

What a story, what a game, what a series.

This folks is MLB The Show 17.

This is what I am experiencing night in night out. God I love this game.

I hate the Yankees but I'll be damned if this didn't give me chills while reading it.

I love this game.

[BlueJays09]

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Still absolutely loving this game with your sliders! Just one question. Are you seeing realistic injuries for your team? I play every pitch of every game and I am 24 games in (14-10).

I have only had Sanchez hit the DL and Pearce DTD with the cold. I have saw a few computer injuries. Just wondered if you saw more human injuries in played games, or will they come in bunches later?


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[NewNapkin]

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Oh man....this used to be me...and this is tough to break. You sort of have to go with the approach of, "If he throws me a pitch in xyz part of the zone, I will swing, otherwise I will take it."

Real life comparison, Chris Davis versus Joey Votto. Swing at everything versus being selective.

Imo, this is as much a mental thing as anything....

So you are saying that this is a result of me being not good enough rather than too good? Thanks for the shot to the ego

I feel like I was still hitting fine even though I was swinging at every strike, but I'll work on it and see if I can get it ironed out.

[Cowboy008]

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Armor do you select a location on every pitch or do you only do that in certain situations?