Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[The Chef]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Hey guys random question. In your franchises what's your sim to play ratio. How many games do you sim compared to actually play.

Count me in the field that plays every game, I am HUGE into stats and want to know that what stats I have are from me and not a simulation so I stick with it no matter how grueling it becomes at times.

[The Chef]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Finished another game, and assuming the Strike Frequency slider is mainly for 1st pitch strikes I don't see a reason to change it at all. Last game...

Jordan Zimmerman - 9/14 - 64.3% (67.1% Career)
Shane Greene - 12/15 - 80.0% (59.6% Career)
Anibal Sanchez - 6/9 - 66.7% (61.4% Career)
Alex Wilson - 3/4 - 75.0% (60.4% Career)

So that doesn't seem to be an issue. I might follow the advice and raise consistency up another notch, as it stands I don't care who the CPU SP is as I know damn well they're gonna groove multiple pitches to me at some point and all I need to do is make sure I'm ready for them. I hit another 2 HR's last game and that was with the wind blowing in 10mph, the ball just carries WAY too much at times, I had Justin Upton take a change up low and away and pull it off the left-center wall for a double and the ball just kept carrying as if the wind was 10mph out and not in.

I don't know what to do at this point Armor so any advice is greatly appreciated. The CPU can't hit as evidenced by their 0.226 average, their BABIP is insanely low at 0.256 otherwise the rest of their peripherals are pretty close to MLB averages. Basically my problems are 2 fold, the CPU can't seem to generate runs unless its a HR and their pitchers hang too many pitches leading to too many HR's for myself and an inflated average (0.276). I might try consistency at 6 next game based on the definitions I posted earlier tonight but as far as the CPU is concerned it's a little alarming. In the last 15 games they've only had 1 game with double digit hits, in the last 5 games they've had a total of 27 hits. I need to walk the CPU more and I'll figure out a way to do that but other then that I got no idea how to make their offense better average wise without creating issues somewhere else along the line.

[Gagnon39]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I posted this in another thread as well, but I'll say it here, too since I use these sliders for hitting.

The lack of doubles is really, really starting to drain the fun of this game for me. Since the 1.04 patch I've gone from around 10th in the league in two-batters to nearly dead last. I'm supremely confident that after another 5-10 games, I'll be last in the league in doubles.

Furthermore, I still lead the league in home runs. And every game has around five combined runs. I'd say 90% of my runs come via the home run.

I'm a seasoned veteran of The Show and I know it takes a significant amount of games to really see anything regarding sliders. And I've played enough to know that there's an issue with too few extra base hits.

I'm open to the possibility that it's at least partly an issue on my end. Maybe I need to learn how to hit better with the Directional interface. Which is why I'm posting here.

Are you guys getting enough doubles? Especially since the recent patches? If so, how do you go about hitting them? Any tricks that I'm missing? Should I be pressing up and left/right on the analog stick?


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[The Chef]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I posted this in another thread as well, but I'll say it here, too since I use these sliders for hitting.

The lack of doubles is really, really starting to drain the fun of this game for me. Since the 1.04 patch I've gone from around 10th in the league in two-batters to nearly dead last. I'm supremely confident that after another 5-10 games, I'll be last in the league in doubles.

Furthermore, I still lead the league in home runs. And every game has around five combined runs. I'd say 90% of my runs come via the home run.

I'm a seasoned veteran of The Show and I know it takes a significant amount of games to really see anything regarding sliders. And I've played enough to know that there's an issue with too few extra base hits.

I'm open to the possibility that it's at least partly an issue on my end. Maybe I need to learn how to hit better with the Directional interface. Which is why I'm posting here.

Are you guys getting enough doubles? Especially since the recent patches? If so, how do you go about hitting them? Any tricks that I'm missing? Should I be pressing up and left/right on the analog stick?


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I've got the same problem but not to the extent that I'm last in doubles. I think the issue is the too many HR's and if some of those would instead bang off the wall or one hop the wall we would have more doubles, fewer HR's and get more in line with real life averages. The thing is with power at 4 I wasn't hitting with any semblance of power so doubles didn't increase at all just the HR's vanished.

As for using the left analog stick to influence I don't use it ever honestly, I just use x and that's it so from that front I can't offer much.

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[Gagnon39]

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I've got the same problem but not to the extent that I'm last in doubles. I think the issue is the too many HR's and if some of those would instead bang off the wall or one hop the wall we would have more doubles, fewer HR's and get more in line with real life averages. The thing is with power at 4 I wasn't hitting with any semblance of power so doubles didn't increase at all just the HR's vanished.

As for using the left analog stick to influence I don't use it ever honestly, I just use x and that's it so from that front I can't offer much.

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Totally agree with the home runs. I've said that from the onset. If half my home runs were doubles I'd have ZERO issue with the way the game plays. However, as it stands it's just about to the point where I'm going to put The Show on the shelf for the year and play some other games. Like Armor has said, games should be fun and this one is starting to frustrate me because of this issue.

I just hit a walk-off homer with Kris Bryant in extra innings and I wasn't even slightly excited about it. Meh, another home run and another game with no doubles.


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[Gagnon39]

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Here's my last 10 games with some numbers.

My runs (my runs NOT from home runs), doubles

4 (0), 0
2 (0), 0
3 (1), 0
4 (1), 2
7 (0), 1
6 (5), 4 - best game I had
2 (2), 0
0 (0), 2
0 (0), 0
3 (0), 0
1 (0), 1
1 (0), 0
6 (2), 0

So that's 37 runs and only 11 are NOT from home runs.





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[Noiziv]

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Totally agree with the home runs. I've said that from the onset. If half my home runs were doubles I'd have ZERO issue with the way the game plays. However, as it stands it's just about to the point where I'm going to put The Show on the shelf for the year and play some other games. Like Armor has said, games should be fun and this one is starting to frustrate me because of this issue.

I just hit a walk-off homer with Kris Bryant in extra innings and I wasn't even slightly excited about it. Meh, another home run and another game with no doubles.


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As someone who hit 2 homeruns in 8 season games pre-v1.4, I agree with you. I've played another 4 and a half (currently in one) since then, and I'm now sitting at 15 homeruns in just that span since the first patch.

Not sure what happened, but I'm all of a sudden crushing homeruns but still can't barely hit over .200. If I get on by hit, it's nearly always a single. If not, I'm circling the bases.


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[tyler28]

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Ive played 3 games, 2hrs game one, 1 game two, then i hit 7 game 3. Seems really high. I see some others are seeing too many hrs. Seems every solid hit goes out. Only one double in 3 games. 2 of those hrs we grand slams.

Love the game, ill see how next game goes regarding hrs

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[VincesVictims]

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Totally agree with the home runs. I've said that from the onset. If half my home runs were doubles I'd have ZERO issue with the way the game plays. However, as it stands it's just about to the point where I'm going to put The Show on the shelf for the year and play some other games. Like Armor has said, games should be fun and this one is starting to frustrate me because of this issue.

I just hit a walk-off homer with Kris Bryant in extra innings and I wasn't even slightly excited about it. Meh, another home run and another game with no doubles.


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Guys look at the numbers in real life. There is only 3 teams that average 2 doubles a game. The rest of the league averages 1.8- 1.0 a game. It's not like there is 10 doubles a game. And guys they are hitting homeruns more and more. So what your seeing in this game is true to real life.

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[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

@chef


Go to control 5 and consistency 5 leave strike frequency alone.


Turn CPU contact and power up to 6

If you are still mashing move up to HOF hitting

Of you feel you are still dealing

Move up to HOF pitching.


Anymore adjustments to AS and you will be digging out of the slideritis rabbit hole.

The OP is perfect for me.

I would keep playing the game and just try to have fun and not get too ocd about the stats. After 162 I am telling you things balance out.


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[Fcshuckers73]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Finished another game, and assuming the Strike Frequency slider is mainly for 1st pitch strikes I don't see a reason to change it at all. Last game...

Jordan Zimmerman - 9/14 - 64.3% (67.1% Career)
Shane Greene - 12/15 - 80.0% (59.6% Career)
Anibal Sanchez - 6/9 - 66.7% (61.4% Career)
Alex Wilson - 3/4 - 75.0% (60.4% Career)

So that doesn't seem to be an issue. I might follow the advice and raise consistency up another notch, as it stands I don't care who the CPU SP is as I know damn well they're gonna groove multiple pitches to me at some point and all I need to do is make sure I'm ready for them. I hit another 2 HR's last game and that was with the wind blowing in 10mph, the ball just carries WAY too much at times, I had Justin Upton take a change up low and away and pull it off the left-center wall for a double and the ball just kept carrying as if the wind was 10mph out and not in.

I don't know what to do at this point Armor so any advice is greatly appreciated. The CPU can't hit as evidenced by their 0.226 average, their BABIP is insanely low at 0.256 otherwise the rest of their peripherals are pretty close to MLB averages. Basically my problems are 2 fold, the CPU can't seem to generate runs unless its a HR and their pitchers hang too many pitches leading to too many HR's for myself and an inflated average (0.276). I might try consistency at 6 next game based on the definitions I posted earlier tonight but as far as the CPU is concerned it's a little alarming. In the last 15 games they've only had 1 game with double digit hits, in the last 5 games they've had a total of 27 hits. I need to walk the CPU more and I'll figure out a way to do that but other then that I got no idea how to make their offense better average wise without creating issues somewhere else along the line.

Strike Frequency does two things, not just the amount of first pitch strikes thrown. It also is a slider for how well (intelligently) a CPU pitcher approaches your hitters. I find a huge difference in their strategy (in a good way) when k frequency is at default. I started hitting on HOF with default except my contact at 6 and the CPU pitching sliders at 5,3,5. I am getting great results. Have you considered raising your hitting to HOF? I am usually always an AS player, but this year it seems HOF allows the CPU to be dangerous and intelligent, but not cheese.

[Armor and Sword]

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Streaming the rubber match in my 3 game series with the Cubs.

Arrieta on the bump for the Cubbies.

[Gagnon39]

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Guys look at the numbers in real life. There is only 3 teams that average 2 doubles a game. The rest of the league averages 1.8- 1.0 a game. It's not like there is 10 doubles a game. And guys they are hitting homeruns more and more. So what your seeing in this game is true to real life.

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But teams don't average under one per game. The lowest is around 1.49. No team averages (by the end of the year) one per game. I keep bouncing between All-Star Directional with these sliders and Hall of Fame zone hitting. I try not to dwell on it and just have fun but then I go three consecutive games where all my runs come from home runs and I hit no doubles.




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[VincesVictims]

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But teams don't average under one per game. The lowest is around 1.49. No team averages (by the end of the year) one per game. I keep bouncing between All-Star Directional with these sliders and Hall of Fame zone hitting. I try not to dwell on it and just have fun but then I go three consecutive games where all my runs come from home runs and I hit no doubles.




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I don't know man I hit about 2 a game and the computer always gets one a game. Right now the low in MLB is .92 a game. Like armor says after 162 games things even out.

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[The Chef]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

@chef


Go to control 5 and consistency 5 leave strike frequency alone.


Turn CPU contact and power up to 6

If you are still mashing move up to HOF hitting

Of you feel you are still dealing

Move up to HOF pitching.


Anymore adjustments to AS and you will be digging out of the slideritis rabbit hole.

The OP is perfect for me.

I would keep playing the game and just try to have fun and not get too ocd about the stats. After 162 I am telling you things balance out.


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Thanks for the feedback Armor, I already have the CPU Contact at 6 and don't want to play with power just because they are already hitting HR's slightly above league averages, it's more they just won't hit for an actual average. I know this could just be a streak my team is on and it all comes crashing down at any point and my staff suddenly can't get an out but they seem to lack aggressiveness at times. I'll try CPU Control at default tonight when I get home from work and see how that plays out.

Strike Frequency does two things, not just the amount of first pitch strikes thrown. It also is a slider for how well (intelligently) a CPU pitcher approaches your hitters. I find a huge difference in their strategy (in a good way) when k frequency is at default. I started hitting on HOF with default except my contact at 6 and the CPU pitching sliders at 5,3,5. I am getting great results. Have you considered raising your hitting to HOF? I am usually always an AS player, but this year it seems HOF allows the CPU to be dangerous and intelligent, but not cheese.

I wish the strike frequency slider controlled the overall strike:ball ratio instead of merely strikes early in the count. When I faced Verlander 2 games ago he only threw approx. 53% of his pitches for strikes which seemed low but then Zimmerman was beating up the zone with a 60%+ so clearly they are capable of doing it. I can't shake the idea that the CPU is just missing on their pitches far too frequently which is why the CPU is prone to grooving some pitches that then get laced for HR's. If I try Control at 5 and that doesn't resolve it then I'll toy with the strike frequency slider but I'd rather do that as a last resort.