Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[jb12780]

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So I got my 1st game in with these in my franchise and wow, pitching is way more challenging with vibration and no ball markers. I play with quick counts and I had a 30 pitch inning with Tanaka.

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[coachrismith]

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Is the injury slider the only one that changes when playing a game vs sim?


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[JG1986]

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When you say you made changes to the set are you talking about slider changes or changes to the roster file you referenced?

I wrapped up my series with KC last night and finally won a game that didn't require a sweat inducing 9th inning. The final score was 5-1 as James Paxton would dance around danger constantly and somehow survive. I really can't stand pitching with Paxton, his control is all over the map, I hate his delivery as it literally looks like he's slinging it up there with some weird dead arm action, he can't locate his curveball about 85% of the time and then he becomes a fastball/cutter pitcher and gets hit hard. Sonny Gray started the game before that and shut them down then, with us up 5-2, the bullpen gave up a 3-run HR to Alex Gordon to tie it. I eventually won that game 6-5 in the 12th which means I've finally put together a win streak longer then 1 game lol. Next up is 2 at Oakland and then I play the front running LAA which should be entertaining if noting else.

Nothing major. I'm just making a point that I made a few tweaks here and there different from Armor because I either a.) don't agree with it or b.) not my skill set. I have cpu fielder reaction/speed at both 3, and have contemplated putting speed down to 2. I have the errors higher, as well. I'm not in front of my console so I can't remember exactly what but I have errors higher across the board. And you are going to hate this but I'm on HOF at either control/consistency 3/4 or 4/4 without markers/vibration and no knowledge of control ratings with a team ERA as of now at 3.67. The specific slider tweak figures wasn't my point though. More or less I was just saying it took a while (longer than normal) to find my sweet spot this year, but man once I found it, the game plays fantastic.

[The Chef]

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Nothing major. I'm just making a point that I made a few tweaks here and there different from Armor because I either a.) don't agree with it or b.) not my skill set. I have cpu fielder reaction/speed at both 3, and have contemplated putting speed down to 2. I have the errors higher, as well. I'm not in front of my console so I can't remember exactly what but I have errors higher across the board. And you are going to hate this but I'm on HOF at either control/consistency 3/4 or 4/4 without markers/vibration and no knowledge of control ratings with a team ERA as of now at 3.67. The specific slider tweak figures wasn't my point though. More or less I was just saying it took a while (longer than normal) to find my sweet spot this year, but man once I found it, the game plays fantastic.

Gotcha, one question I got for you or anyone that would be willing to answer. Do you throw warm up pitches with RP's when you bring them in to get a feel for their stuff that day? I'm usually pinched for time when playing on work days so I skip it but am starting to wonder if by skipping it I'm causing more harm then good in the end.

[forme95]

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Gotcha, one question I got for you or anyone that would be willing to answer. Do you throw warm up pitches with RP's when you bring them in to get a feel for their stuff that day? I'm usually pinched for time when playing on work days so I skip it but am starting to wonder if by skipping it I'm causing more harm then good in the end.

I do whenever possible. I have let my emotions get to me at times and have skipped it though lol. But yes I always try to. I usually will throw X 2x and then O 2x and Triangle 2x. With the last 2 I will throw X and O to see if I need to adjust any. I don't aim. I throw it down the middle and see how far it goes off and then adjust my button press by throwing short tap first and then just to vibation for 2nd pitch to see which is closer. Usually RP/SU guys are more about velocity (IE Andrew Miller) so I know I need to hold longer to ramp his pitches up to be more accurate. Whereas with Otero (sinker) I know he needs more control so the press isn't as long.

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[knich]

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It used to. They took out that feature on the move to PS4

Would love to have it back.


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I would like them to add in warm up pitches for the CPU. They can give you option to x out at anytime, but I hate having to start an at bat against a pitcher and am not aware of his delivery. I know I can check the bullpen warm up of opposing team, but CPU often has many relievers up and it is pain in butt to keep checking.

And please bring back the complete post game songs. Nothing worse than cutting short the Yanks victory NY NY song.

[coachrismith]

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I guess what I was asking may not have been clear. To clarify, I sim some of my franchise games and play some. The question I have is, is the injury slider the only one that should be different when dimming vs playing the game? Or are there others?


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[Burgess]

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I've read the last several pages of this post and this is certainly not a criticism, but I can't help but think that some of us are over-analyzing, over-thinking and trying to find problems that aren't there.

For what it is worth I would like to share my results of the first 3 games of my Yankees franchise

I'm 53 years old
I use Armour's exact sliders
I'm on HOF pitching, tap x all the time and listen to catcher 100% of the time
I use auto fielding and auto throwing to eliminate human error
I'm on AllStar hitting and press x to hit all the time and never use the stick
I use auto base running to eliminate human error

As you can see, a very simplistic way of playing the game, but this is my universe and I'm having a blast

Game 1 - I win in a 9-0 blowout. I manage 10 hits including 3 doubles, 1 triple and a 3-run homer by Sanchez. I walked 10 times and k'd 10 times. The Rays managed only 4 hits including a double. They walked once and struck out 10 times. No errors by either team

Game 2 - Yankees win again 4-3. I was down 3-2 until Judge and Headley go back-to-back in the 8th. I got 10 hits again including 2 doubles and 3 homers. This game all 4 runs came from the long ball. I walked 5 times and k'd 5 times. The Rays got 8 hits, including 3 doubles and a triple. They walked twice and k'd 8 times. No errors by either team

Game 3 - Yankees complete the sweep winning 8-3. Sabathia got off to a shaky start giving up 3 runs in the first (I thought oh oh) but he and the bullpen shut the door after that. I scored 5 in the 4th (Holliday 2-run homer) and 3 in the 6th (Bird a 3-run shot). Overall I ended up with 14 hits including 4 doubles and 2 homers. I walked 5 times and k'd 3 times. The Rays got 8 hits including 2 doubles and a 2-run homer. They didn't get a walk and k'd 8 times. For the 3rd straight game there were no errors by either team.

Yankees had lots of offensive, but my hitting stars were Headley (4 doubles, a triple, a homerun and 2 RBI), Sanchez (2 homers and 4 RBI) and Holliday (a double, a homer, and 6 RBI).

I'm certainly not considering adjusting sliders or moving up to HOF hitting. I'm going to enjoy my hitting outburst, my solid pitching and my sweep as I know tougher times are ahead - maybe starting in Baltimore next series!

What amazes me the most about this game is that we can all play the same game but we can have such different outcomes and experiences. But if I have learned one thing from playing this game for the last several years it's this - trust Armour's sliders, trust the ratings, don't over-think, don't over-analyze, don't look for problems that may not be there and PLAY. THE. GAME!! Sorry for my long post.

[JG1986]

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Gotcha, one question I got for you or anyone that would be willing to answer. Do you throw warm up pitches with RP's when you bring them in to get a feel for their stuff that day? I'm usually pinched for time when playing on work days so I skip it but am starting to wonder if by skipping it I'm causing more harm then good in the end.

Nah I've never had the warm up feature turned on.

[JG1986]

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LMFAO I give up, changeup away and Yonder Alonso hit's that opposite field for another damn HR (that's 3 HR's this game and 4 total). I'm bowing out, y'all enjoy the game and I genuinely hope it keeps playing like it is currently and you don't find yourself suddenly in the position I am. Thanks to everyone that tried to help, until they actually fix the exit velocity and opposite field HR's this game is getting shelved but seeing as they haven't yet I'm not holding my breath. Again, thanks to anyone and everyone who tried to help and thanks to Armor for providing the sliders and doing all the leg work so we didn't have too.

EDIT - Was going to finish the game and the very next pitch Ryon Healy hits a fastball 427 ft opposite field for another HR. Like I said before, not looking for issues, the issues are blatantly right in my face and can't be ignored. That's 6 HR's and 5 were to opposite field, 6 HR's by the Oakland A's.....no idea how you guys are having so much success. **** I tapped the button on the change and regardless of his control rating it was still hit for a HR, so went fastball and that didn't help either as that was hit for a HR lmfao.

I'm starting to wonder if you are playing a different game. What roster are you using and double check sliders/difficulty again? I notice sometimes those hybrid rosters with the rerates play much differently than stock SCEA rating. I never use them.

One last thing, if you are reading, is to try and play a game with the Mets. Use Thor. I want to know if it's you or the Mariners. I just checked. I have given up one HR in the last 5 games.

[belikemike14]

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I'm starting to wonder if you are playing a different game. What roster are you using and double check sliders/difficulty again? I notice sometimes those hybrid rosters with the rerates play much differently than stock SCEA rating. I never use them.

One last thing, if you are reading, is to try and play a game with the Mets. Use Thor. I want to know if it's you or the Mariners. I just checked. I have given up one HR in the last 5 games.

Giving up a lot of homeruns is one of the problems that I am having. Just lost to the Blue Jays 8-6 all runs came via homeruns on both sides. I also hit too many myself

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[JG1986]

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Giving up a lot of homeruns is one of the problems that I am having. Just lost to the Blue Jays 8-6 all runs came via homeruns on both sides. I also hit too many myself

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I certainly agree that I hit too many home runs. When I say 80% of my runs come off the home run, that may be an understatement. But the CPU doesn't hit too many against me. I have given up the third least in my franchise.

[belikemike14]

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I certainly agree that I hit too many home runs. When I say 80% of my runs come off the home run, that may be an understatement. But the CPU doesn't hit too many against me. I have given up the third least in my franchise.

I wonder if that is because you are the Mets and I'm the Orioles lmao. Lord knows they complete opposites

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[JG1986]

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I wonder if that is because you are the Mets and I'm the Orioles lmao. Lord knows they complete opposites

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Honestly I think so. Ratings play so much. With the roster I use I'm like 25th in contact but I think 8th in power and 3rd in pitching. It would help if there was another Mariner player to compare results but I don't think anybody else in this thread plays with them. I also think The Chef has to switch sliders. He doesn't have to match Armor perfectly. Put CPU power down one notch. Clearly, he is giving up a boat load of runs. Putting the power done one notch won't kill him. Somebody else made a good point earlier in the thread. They can't pitch on HOF simply because they don't score enough on all star. Makes sense. I think The Chef just has to understand that CPU and human sliders DONT have to match. You are not getting a boost by making the sliders different. I think he falls into that trap. Totally just guessing but that is my opinion. He feels if he slights the CPU in sliders he is cheating them or giving himself an advantage. That is not the case. Everybody's skill is different.

[belikemike14]

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Honestly I think so. Ratings play so much. With the roster I use I'm like 25th in contact but I think 8th in power and 3rd in pitching. It would help if there was another Mariner player to compare results but I don't think anybody else in this thread plays with them. I also think The Chef has to switch sliders. He doesn't have to match Armor perfectly. Put CPU power down one notch. Clearly, he is giving up a boat load of runs. Putting the power done one notch won't kill him. Somebody else made a good point earlier in the thread. They can't pitch on HOF simply because they don't score enough on all star. Makes sense. I think The Chef just have to understand that CPU and human sliders DONT have to watch. You are not getting a boost by making the sliders different. I think he falls into that trap. Totally just guessing but that is my opinion. He feels if he slights the CPU in sliders he is cheating them or giving himself an advantage. That is not the case. Everybody's skill is different.

I completely agree. The O's have one of the worse pitching staffs in baseball so when I get lit up I feel it's par for the course.

I don't know what to tell him about his situation. Other than do whatever you have to do to have fun with the game

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