Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[forme95]

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I also just learned that if you add SOTS player music, cheers, or anything, do it outside of your franchise or it will take away the progression/regression during the season. I also noticed, I called a player up and went in to just change his # and it took away his progression.

[bryanm1982]

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The one year I don't use 30 team control and this happens lol. I really wish they would allow someone to simply "activate" 30 team control after starting or at the very least soemthing that allows me to go in and correct rotations and lineups for the CPU. I don't have any issues with lineup choices the CPU has made but this RP thing is just ridiculous. So if they are put in the extra RP spots they won't see the field? That would explain why Texas is letting Darvish sit in the pen rotting away instead of using him, granted they should have put him in the rotation when he was brought back from the DL but for whatever reason they didn't.

I'll have to switch sides and start micro-managing the CPU bullpen usage whenever the game is tied or I'm leading. I gotta admit it's getting a little old having to micro manage aspects of this game though.

I agree with your earlier post. We shouldn't have to do that. The CPU should be able to have the knowledge to manage their bullpen.

[The Chef]

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I also just learned that if you add SOTS player music, cheers, or anything, do it outside of your franchise or it will take away the progression/regression during the season. I also noticed, I called a player up and went in to just change his # and it took away his progression.

I edited players overall to match the live updates every week and never had this issue. Yes it will no longer say the + or - next to a rating but the new rating was always still there unless I somehow completely missed this. In fact I know it kept the updated rating now that I think of it, I messed with Jean Segura at one point and his speed had dropped 1 point from 83 to 82, I didn't touch it, edited something else and saved. He no longer had any of the +/- above any ratings but his speed was still 82 so I think it's more cosmetic then it actually reversing his progression and/or regression.

[forme95]

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I edited players overall to match the live updates every week and never had this issue. Yes it will no longer say the + or - next to a rating but the new rating was always still there unless I somehow completely missed this. In fact I know it kept the updated rating now that I think of it, I messed with Jean Segura at one point and his speed had dropped 1 point from 83 to 82, I didn't touch it, edited something else and saved. He no longer had any of the +/- above any ratings but his speed was still 82 so I think it's more cosmetic then it actually reversing his progression and/or regression.

That's what I ment Chef. I'm not saying it won't save your changes. I was saying +/- is gone so I think they stay at those attributes and won't gain or lose. I haven't gone far enough yet to see how long it affects it.

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[The Chef]

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So basically for 40 man call up. Don't call up anyone and keep rosters at 25.

You can call people up as the issue only effects CPU teams as you'll be making your own decisions in game. I have no idea how it plays out when simulating games however so obviously if you sim a lot then it might still be an issue, thing is you're not really calling anyone up as it's automatic once rosters expand and the remainder of your 40 man gets added to the MLB roster for the remainder of the season.

Now the CPU on the other hand really screws it up. They place more importance on getting the young guys some experience whenever the game is tied or they are losing over actually trying to keep the game close and win it. Basically the CPU logic when tied or behind is what I would expect from a team that has no shot of making the playoffs and is merely trying to get a look at younger pitchers without necessarily caring about the outcome of the game itself. The unfortunate part is a team can be first in the division or right in the thick of things and they still conduct themselves like they're in the basement standings wise and their season is already over.

[The Chef]

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That's what I ment Chef. I'm not saying it won't save your changes. I was saying +/- is gone so I think they stay at those attributes and won't gain or lose. I haven't gone far enough yet to see how long it affects it.

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Nah they will. I edited Nelson Cruz a bit as he fell off a cliff even though he was having a monster year so I split the regression in the middle (he was -9 in multiple categories meanwhile older players around the league weren't even losing ratings at that rate and they were having terrible seasons. Hell Carlos Beltran who is damn near 40 wasn't regressing as badly as Cruz was and Cruz is #2 in the MLB in HR's and RBI's on the season). I did that a month ago if not more and Cruz has regressed a couple points since then so I don't think editing players causes it. I progressed Mitch Haniger based on a live update from awhile back and he too has had a few categories change since then through natural progression.

[forme95]

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Nah they will. I edited Nelson Cruz a bit as he fell off a cliff even though he was having a monster year so I split the regression in the middle (he was -9 in multiple categories meanwhile older players around the league weren't even losing ratings at that rate and they were having terrible seasons. Hell Carlos Beltran who is damn near 40 wasn't regressing as badly as Cruz was and Cruz is #2 in the MLB in HR's and RBI's on the season). I did that a month ago if not more and Cruz has regressed a couple points since then so I don't think editing players causes it. I progressed Mitch Haniger based on a live update from awhile back and he too has had a few categories change since then through natural progression.

Oh good to know. 👍 thanks Chef

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[The Chef]

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I agree with your earlier post. We shouldn't have to do that. The CPU should be able to have the knowledge to manage their bullpen.

Ok this is starting to get stupid now. I'm up 3-1 on Tyson Ross in the 5th, he has pitched well seeing as 2 of those 3 runs were scored thanks to an error so he only has 1 ER over 4.2 currently. The CPU keeps putting Hauschild and Gonzalez up in the pen warming up. I keep switching sides and sitting them down and putting Darvish and Claudio up instead. The moment I switch back and the CPU has thrown a pitch I look and wouldn't you know it, those idiots get Hauschild and Gonzalez back up in the pen. How can I possibly fix this idiotic behavior from the CPU? If I wait until they sub one in the only guy throwing in the pen will be the other moron so I'm simply taking out one garbage pitcher to put in the other. I can't sit them and get 2 other guys warming up as the CPU will over ride that the very moment I switch control back to my team and a pitch is thrown.

For all the things they seem to patch, they really need to fix this otherwise it ruins a great season right at the end and anyone not using 30 team control can't do anything about it.

[bryanm1982]

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Ok this is starting to get stupid now. I'm up 3-1 on Tyson Ross in the 5th, he has pitched well seeing as 2 of those 3 runs were scored thanks to an error so he only has 1 ER over 4.2 currently. The CPU keeps putting Hauschild and Gonzalez up in the pen warming up. I keep switching sides and sitting them down and putting Darvish and Claudio up instead. The moment I switch back and the CPU has thrown a pitch I look and wouldn't you know it, those idiots get Hauschild and Gonzalez back up in the pen. How can I possibly fix this idiotic behavior from the CPU? If I wait until they sub one in the only guy throwing in the pen will be the other moron so I'm simply taking out one garbage pitcher to put in the other. I can't sit them and get 2 other guys warming up as the CPU will over ride that the very moment I switch control back to my team and a pitch is thrown.

For all the things they seem to patch, they really need to fix this otherwise it ruins a great season right at the end and anyone not using 30 team control can't do anything about it.

That is disappointing. So when your done with this season are you going to start over with a new team or keep going with it?

[The Chef]

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That is disappointing. So when your done with this season are you going to start over with a new team or keep going with it?

I'll keep playing, no way I'm starting over. I think I figured out a possible solution which I will test when I start my next series at Houston. I'm going to go in and injure any pitcher that came up when rosters were expanded and is trash. It is extremely frustrating though, I managed to get Jeffress and his 1.63 ERA into the game and he cruised through the 6th but the 7th started and of course they yanked him for Chi Chi Gonzalez and got Gamboa up in the pen now. At least they did get Wesley Wright up this time as well, but it's idiotic the way the CPU utilizes it's bullpen the moment rosters are expanded and they are losing or tied.

[bryanm1982]

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Okay what are the rules for the playoff rosters? My question is I had a RP that I sent to the minors like in July and he was one of the players that were the September call ups. Well he pitched very good for me in September so I wanted to put him on the playoff roster. Cause I don't need 6 SP in the Wildcard game or Division Series if I advance. Well they are saying he is not eligible for the postseason cause only players on the active roster it DL as of Sept 1st are eligible. Is that true or is this a glitch in the game? I know if you claim a player after September 1st he isn't eligible. But why do I have to have to basically set my playoff roster on September 1st?

[The Chef]

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Okay what are the rules for the playoff rosters? My question is I had a RP that I sent to the minors like in July and he was one of the players that were the September call ups. Well he pitched very good for me in September so I wanted to put him on the playoff roster. Cause I don't need 6 SP in the Wildcard game or Division Series if I advance. Well they are saying he is not eligible for the postseason cause only players on the active roster it DL as of Sept 1st are eligible. Is that true or is this a glitch in the game? I know if you claim a player after September 1st he isn't eligible. But why do I have to have to basically set my playoff roster on September 1st?

Yeah that's the rule as far as I know. I believe the only way around that would have been to add him to the actual big league roster prior to call ups or manually send everyone down back to the minors prior to the end of the season and make room for him on the big league roster at that time by sending someone down that was previously on the MLB roster prior to rosters expanding. Hopefully that made sense, unfortunately if you've already advanced to the playoffs I don't believe there is anyway to do it now.

On an unrelated note Chi Chi Gonzalez turned a 3-1 game into a 6-1 game, same sorry outcome as before. I went on to win 7-3 but I was just trying to end the game at that point and didn't care what happened. I sure hope injuring these guys will fix the problem and they don't instead turn to MRP's that were called up instead otherwise I might have to injure every pitcher that was called up when rosters expanded just to avoid this issue.

[The Chef]

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So the whole injuring guys doesn't work either as there is apparently some formula that puts a cap on it. Houston has McHugh and Fiers on the DL already so after injuring 1 SP it now says that a player can't be injured and that I've either reached the maximum number of injured players or my roster doesn't have enough players available. It makes zero sense as I'm trying to injure the 4 guys that are merely on the roster when they expanded and they certainly have enough pitchers active as they have 17 pitchers on the MLB roster. Am I doing something wrong here? It will let me injure a SP that is still on the AAA roster but not one that's on the MLB roster.

It just gets better and better. Finishing these last 15 games is going to be a chore at this pace. It's not fun when the game turns what should have been an exciting finish to the season into this gigantic mess.

[BleacherCreature]

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I'll keep playing, no way I'm starting over. I think I figured out a possible solution which I will test when I start my next series at Houston. I'm going to go in and injure any pitcher that came up when rosters were expanded and is trash. It is extremely frustrating though, I managed to get Jeffress and his 1.63 ERA into the game and he cruised through the 6th but the 7th started and of course they yanked him for Chi Chi Gonzalez and got Gamboa up in the pen now. At least they did get Wesley Wright up this time as well, but it's idiotic the way the CPU utilizes it's bullpen the moment rosters are expanded and they are losing or tied.

Wouldn't injuring a player just cause the CPU to call up more weak pitchers to replace them?


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[The Chef]

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Wouldn't injuring a player just cause the CPU to call up more weak pitchers to replace them?


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I wouldn't think so as it's due to rosters expanding in September so they aren't short handed in the least.

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