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  • Fcshuckers73
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 743

    #1051
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    Been testing some more hitting tweaks on HOF.

    Stay tuned.


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    I have been using 4 and 4 for CPU timing and foul and upped their solid hits to 5......great results.....strikeouts but they are still dangerois

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    • gman2774
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 1071

      #1052
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by RC3
      Absolutely loving The SHOW and the sliders this year!



      However, the classic pitching is a bit frustrating - I feel like it is almost completely random most of the time. I've experimented with different hold lengths, locations, pitches, you name it (I have read the classic pitching thread more than once) and it seems to just get a random spot for the ball. I would say I hit my spot or close to it only around 10% of the time. I do use the pitch trail because I'm not very good at the feel part and my controller's vibration is broken. So I always know where I am trying to locate the ball.



      The crazy part is I am really liking the stats it is producing, but feels like I have very little control over pitching other than pitch selection. I'm getting pitches missing by over a foot consistently... but sometimes those end up as Ks, bombs or balls so the stats work themselves out.



      Is there something I'm missing or is it all about ratings and stats and the randomness is what I should like and I should just roll with it since the stat sim is working out pretty well?



      I did play one game with meter pitching (same sliders) and I would still miss spots, but much more consistent. Had 10Ks and 0 walks though. Typically with classic I've been around 6-8K and 2-6walks, which I like better.


      According to Jerry Weinstein in his book, "Coaching Catchers" he states that, " ML pitchers only hit their target 24% time on fastballs. A miss is when the catcher has to move his glove 6" or more to catch the pitch." Amazing study that Coach Weinstein conducted. Especially considering the plate is 17” wide.

      I use this info as part of my coaching with our high school catchers and I think it applies to this discussion as well. Personally, I love the unpredictability of classic pitching this year. I think it’s much more accurate of what we see in baseball today. Just my $.02.


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      • Armor and Sword
        The Lama
        • Sep 2010
        • 21794

        #1053
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

        Originally posted by Fcshuckers73
        I have been using 4 and 4 for CPU timing and foul and upped their solid hits to 5......great results.....strikeouts but they are still dangerois

        Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
        My adjustments will be for the Human side. I am very happy with the CPU offense with my OP settings.

        I have played over 55 games now inside franchise between my Yankees and a test franchise. I have a very good sample size on the OP settings. Now I am testing two tweaks to human hitting to increase offense.

        HOF this year is so amazing, but very difficult IMO. I am now confident after compiling a good working sample size about the adjustments I am now testing. Once my results are compiled.....I will then either update the OP or it will stay the same.

        I will be streaming tonight as usual. Hope to see some of you as we return to NY and also play some Fictional Oakland A's as well.

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        • Fcshuckers73
          Pro
          • Sep 2011
          • 743

          #1054
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          My adjustments will be for the Human side. I am very happy with the CPU offense with my OP settings.



          I have played over 55 games now inside franchise between my Yankees and a test franchise. I have a very good sample size on the OP settings. Now I am testing two tweaks to human hitting to increase offense.



          HOF this year is so amazing, but very difficult IMO. I am now confident after compiling a good working sample size about the adjustments I am now testing. Once my results are compiled.....I will then either update the OP or it will stay the same.



          I will be streaming tonight as usual. Hope to see some of you as we return to NY and also play some Fictional Oakland A's as well.



          Bacon's Roster is simply marvelous. A total departure from real world franchise. It is so much fun and nice alternative world.
          Dude....now u have me intrigued! Please pass along the possible change you are testing....only issue I kinda see is power being a little low for human. Please give a hint man

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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21794

            #1055
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

            Originally posted by Fcshuckers73
            Dude....now u have me intrigued! Please pass along the possible change you are testing....only issue I kinda see is power being a little low for human. Please give a hint man

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            I am seeing with me personally after over 55 games, low power and contact needs to be better. I really feel it is a product of the smaller PCI on HOF. A simple tweak of contact and power coupled with everything else on this set may be the magic sauce we need. I love the AI on HOF. It is marvelous this year.

            Grienke was a wizard with me today...but I still feel like we need a tad better "wood" on the ball.

            Testing Human contact and power at 6
            Last edited by Armor and Sword; 05-03-2019, 12:47 PM.
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            • tc020791
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 2012

              #1056
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              I am seeing with me personally after over 55 games, low power and contact needs to be better. I really feel it is a product of the smaller PCI on HOF. A simply tweak of contact and power coupled with everything else on this set may be the magic sauce we need. I love the AI on HOF. It is marvelous this year.

              Grienke was a wizard with me today...but I still feel like we need a tad better "wood" on the ball.

              Testing Human contact and power at 6
              I've been playing with power at 6 and have been having a blast for a few weeks now. I've kept Contact at 5 though.

              I also have CPU power at 6, solid hits 4, USER Control 4.

              I prefer both sides with power at 6. I feel like CPU gets too many hits with SH at 5. And I'm too accurate with User Control at 5.

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              • Fcshuckers73
                Pro
                • Sep 2011
                • 743

                #1057
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by tc020791
                I've been playing with power at 6 and have been having a blast for a few weeks now. I've kept Contact at 5 though.



                I also have CPU power at 6, solid hits 4, USER Control 4.



                I prefer both sides with power at 6. I feel like CPU gets too many hits with SH at 5. And I'm too accurate with User Control at 5.
                Hmmm......tc and armor make very well be on to something.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21794

                  #1058
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by Fcshuckers73
                  Hmmm......tc and armor make very well be on to something.

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                  Everyone has different feels. We all play with different teams too and keep that in mind.

                  For me pitcher control on 5 on HOF is perfect. I got lit up by the D-Backs in both games (lost them both...sigh).

                  CPU offense is on point for me.

                  Human offense after not jumping to fast conclusions like too many do in the general forum....is weaker at default for "me". So I am testing those adjustments. I have a great feeling we found the secret sauce.
                  Last edited by Armor and Sword; 05-03-2019, 12:56 PM.
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                  • RC3
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 52

                    #1059
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                    Originally posted by gman2774
                    According to Jerry Weinstein in his book, "Coaching Catchers" he states that, " ML pitchers only hit their target 24% time on fastballs. A miss is when the catcher has to move his glove 6" or more to catch the pitch." Amazing study that Coach Weinstein conducted. Especially considering the plate is 17” wide.

                    I use this info as part of my coaching with our high school catchers and I think it applies to this discussion as well. Personally, I love the unpredictability of classic pitching this year. I think it’s much more accurate of what we see in baseball today. Just my $.02.


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                    Awesome Info. I wonder what the hit % is for other pitches, it must be even lower, right.?

                    I think with the stats I'm getting and this little report, I'm going to ride out the classic pitching as confirmed it is probably the most realistic as well. Still going to test the release point idea rather than just guessing hold time.
                    Thanks.

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                    • Fcshuckers73
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 743

                      #1060
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      Everyone has different feels. We all play with different teams too and keep that in mind.

                      For me pitcher control on 5 on HOF is perfect. I got lit up by the D-Backs in both games (lost them both...sigh).

                      CPU offense is on point for me.

                      Human offense after not jumping to fast conclusions like too many do in the general forum....is weaker at default for "me". So I am testing those adjustments. I have a great feeling we found the secret sauce.
                      I agree on jumping too soon. I have been around default for all settings... trying to find that little bit of extra offense. U feel like the answer will be found with tc and your adjustments.... depending on players ability and style of play.... please have my daughter's college pin on ceremony in a couple hours but I'll be checking it out when I get home tonight

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                      • rlb1976
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 617

                        #1061
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                        Dumb question guys. When there's an update to the sliders or I make any changes period, do I need to update the 2nd profile I'm using for 30 team control or just my main profile?

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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21794

                          #1062
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by rlb1976
                          Dumb question guys. When there's an update to the sliders or I make any changes period, do I need to update the 2nd profile I'm using for 30 team control or just my main profile?
                          Just change the sliders. Your profile has nothing to do with the sliders.
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                          • rlb1976
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 617

                            #1063
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                            Just change the sliders. Your profile has nothing to do with the sliders.
                            Ok thanks man.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21794

                              #1064
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                              Testing only power at 6 everything else like the OP


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                              • Burgess
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 1015

                                #1065
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                Testing only power at 6 everything else like the OP


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                                I hope you recommend bumping it up to 6. My Yankees lack some power
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