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  • BleacherCreature
    MVP
    • Apr 2007
    • 3160

    #1291
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

    It’s amazing how pitching can be so night and day depending on how well you’ve figured out your pitcher’s release point. I just struggled in the first inning giving up 3 hits and getting into two full counts until I finally dialed in the release point. Once I did I was able to get out of the inning without allowing a run, and I’ve since retired 9 straight hitters with not much solid contact.


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    • TopSide83
      MVP
      • Sep 2016
      • 1400

      #1292
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by BleacherCreature
      It’s amazing how pitching can be so night and day depending on how well you’ve figured out your pitcher’s release point. I just struggled in the first inning giving up 3 hits and getting into two full counts until I finally dialed in the release point. Once I did I was able to get out of the inning without allowing a run, and I’ve since retired 9 straight hitters with not much solid contact.


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      Been saying it for over a month now.. it’s all about the release point. Once people figure that out their pitching problems with go away

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      • Armor and Sword
        The Lama
        • Sep 2010
        • 21788

        #1293
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21788

          #1294
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

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          • BleacherCreature
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 3160

            #1295
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

            Anyone playing as the Mets have trouble pitching with Familia? That guy is a dumpster fire for me. He’s blown a save in each of his last 3 games and looked awful doing so.


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            • Gagnon39
              Windy City Sports Fan
              • Mar 2003
              • 8544

              #1296
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

              I know there’s been plenty of discussion on here and other posts regarding classic pitching. I really wish there was a detailed explanation directly from the developers on how it works. I have to say, from my experience I don’t think it penalizes is for missing any, “timing,” like some might suggest. You either tap, hold until rumble, or anything in between. The difference is simply rumble means maximum effort with less control and a tap means maximum control with minimal velocity. This obviously includes any combination in between but I think it’s as simple as that.

              I’m going to try to work more of a mix of minimum and maximum velocity pitches and see maybe if that helps get more swing and misses.


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              • BleacherCreature
                MVP
                • Apr 2007
                • 3160

                #1297
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by Gagnon39
                I know there’s been plenty of discussion on here and other posts regarding classic pitching. I really wish there was a detailed explanation directly from the developers on how it works. I have to say, from my experience I don’t think it penalizes is for missing any, “timing,” like some might suggest. You either tap, hold until rumble, or anything in between. The difference is simply rumble means maximum effort with less control and a tap means maximum control with minimal velocity. This obviously includes any combination in between but I think it’s as simple as that.

                I’m going to try to work more of a mix of minimum and maximum velocity pitches and see maybe if that helps get more swing and misses.


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                I’m debating on switching to maybe pulse pitching for a few games just so I can see where the right release point is for my pitchers. That should be able to translate fairly well over to classic. I was rolling in my last game until my starter got hurt in the 5th inning. I grabbed a 3-0 lead until.........Familia. Maybe I don’t have the timing down for his release yet which I think pulse pitching would help.


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                • FADED
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 257

                  #1298
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by Fcshuckers73
                  This wasn't in response to armors latest post, rather an ongoing dialogue kingsdream and I are having to help the CPU offense. [emoji16]

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                  Yeah i saw after i reread it 😁 my fault

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                  • Funkycorm
                    Cleveland Baseball Guru
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3159

                    #1299
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                    Originally posted by Gagnon39
                    I know there’s been plenty of discussion on here and other posts regarding classic pitching. I really wish there was a detailed explanation directly from the developers on how it works. I have to say, from my experience I don’t think it penalizes is for missing any, “timing,” like some might suggest. You either tap, hold until rumble, or anything in between. The difference is simply rumble means maximum effort with less control and a tap means maximum control with minimal velocity. This obviously includes any combination in between but I think it’s as simple as that.

                    I’m going to try to work more of a mix of minimum and maximum velocity pitches and see maybe if that helps get more swing and misses.


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                    For me, I always just tap on my change ups. It seems to get them to drop more, especially when I want it to on those 0-2 and 1-2 counts. For everything else I either tap or hold to the vibration. It works for me at least. I don't really know all the nuances to it, I just go out there and pitch. Kind of like Wild Thing. 'here, hit this' lol
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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21788

                      #1300
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                      There is no exact science to classic. What I can tell you is having a good “feel” of your pitchers stuff that day, what pitches he has great and good command of that day and how much effort is needed or not needed to snap off your off speed stuff, or your breaking stuff.

                      I have personally always been the the school of approach that Gagnon and many others employ. Minimal or max effort, situational awareness of when to tap, max or somewhere in between.

                      With my starters who have great stamina I can max effort my #1 pitch more often. With lower stamina starters I need to be more crafty and pick my spots with max effort. Also their control ratings are huge in max effort or not.

                      Yet sometimes I can be snapping off Tanaka’s splitter with more max effort some days and other days he has control problems with it.

                      This is why I love this interface. It truly mimics the “Strato-Matic” dice role mentality.




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                      • GWPump23
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 361

                        #1301
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        There is no exact science to classic. What I can tell you is having a good “feel” of your pitchers stuff that day, what pitches he has great and good command of that day and how much effort is needed or not needed to snap off your off speed stuff, or your breaking stuff.

                        I have personally always been the the school of approach that Gagnon and many others employ. Minimal or max effort, situational awareness of when to tap, max or somewhere in between.

                        With my starters who have great stamina I can max effort my #1 pitch more often. With lower stamina starters I need to be more crafty and pick my spots with max effort. Also their control ratings are huge in max effort or not.

                        Yet sometimes I can be snapping off Tanaka’s splitter with more max effort some days and other days he has control problems with it.

                        This is why I love this interface. It truly mimics the “Strato-Matic” dice role mentality.




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                        Armor, stop with the whole “dice roll” thing. You’re scaring people away!

                        Bad jokes aside, I used to get in cyber fist fights here over why “directional” hitting & “classic” pitching give the user no input & outcomes were predetermined with a “dice” roll... SO not the case. Sure these interfaces & settings are mostly ratings driven but we as users really have a ton more input than I originally gave you credit for.

                        Anyway, after following this forum (& Hero’s classic pitching) for years & FINALLY giving your sliders with the settings and honest to goodness 40-game sample size, there’s no going back!

                        Without starting a war I honestly feel that this game is programmed for directional hitting with classic pitching. I can’t believe how many past seasons that I’ve missed out.

                        You were right, I was wrong. Now get your sliders tuned in so we can start our franchises, will ya? Ha ha...

                        -GW-
                        Last edited by GWPump23; 05-11-2019, 04:09 PM.
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                        • glenzariczny
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2878

                          #1302
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                          I wanted to share this video as an example of how rewarding this game is with these sliders once you learn how to play like Armor says in the OP and learn how to be patient and work counts. This was a true battle and the payoff at the end felt so rewarding. It's what I absolutely love about this game

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                          • dubplate
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3779

                            #1303
                            Re: Armor &amp; Sword &amp; Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                            Only one game played so far but the recent changes may have saved this game for me.

                            Pitching is fun again and didn’t feel like a maddening struggle to counter nonsense. I was punished when making mistakes and rewarded when making great pitches.

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                            • Gagnon39
                              Windy City Sports Fan
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 8544

                              #1304
                              Re: Armor &amp; Sword &amp; Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                              Might just be coincidence, but I also may have found something that will help me with getting more strikeouts.

                              I’m like Armor, I love the clean screen approach. However, my past couple games I put on the pitch/hitter feedback and I felt like it really helped me. The ability to know (for sure) whether the batter was ahead or behind the previous pitch felt like it gave me that extra info I needed to be able to get a few more punchouts.

                              I had to save my last game but through five Lester has eight strikeouts. Don’t get me wrong, I could easily go the rest of the game with none, and just finish with eight total, but it’s by far the most I’ve had through just five innings.

                              Anyway, just a thought for those of you that are like me and are not striking out the computer quite enough.


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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21788

                                #1305
                                Re: Armor &amp; Sword &amp; Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

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