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  • arichzona
    Banned
    • Nov 2003
    • 1629

    #106
    Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

    Originally posted by Brophog
    This is starting to back up our belief in the past that 2K's difficulty was nothing more than a ratings adjustment and that difficulty levels didn't really mean anything.
    did we stop believing this? IMO, 2k's "difficulty" levels were simply preset versions of sliders that we all simply create and adjust ourselves anyway. Very well too.....

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    • SeaNNyT
      Pro
      • Jul 2006
      • 657

      #107
      Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

      Originally posted by arichzona
      did we stop believing this? IMO, 2k's "difficulty" levels were simply preset versions of sliders that we all simply create and adjust ourselves anyway. Very well too.....
      In the 2k baseball games this is true. In it's basketball games this is not the case.

      So it doesn't matter if you adjust the sliders on rookie or legend, if they end up in the same spot it will affect the game exactly the same whether you start in rookie or legend.
      S E A N N y T

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      • bigfnjoe96
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2004
        • 11410

        #108
        Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

        Originally posted by SeaNNyT
        In the 2k baseball games this is true. In it's basketball games this is not the case.

        So it doesn't matter if you adjust the sliders on rookie or legend, if they end up in the same spot it will affect the game exactly the same whether you start in rookie or legend.
        Not in this year's game.

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        • Zalf
          Pro
          • Jul 2004
          • 552

          #109
          Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

          Still getting some 20 run slug fests with these(and these sliders are the best I've tried so far). The difficulty flipping from All-Pro to Pro when dropping AI power even one point hurts. I'm not sure if there is a way to do this with sliders and keep the All-Pro difficulty. This is starting to look like its going to take some roster mod's to make it work.

          Good to average pitcher on average to poor power hitter every thing works fine. The second a halfway decent power hitter steps in the box for AI or Human it becomes a coin flip regardless of the pitches made.

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          • arichzona
            Banned
            • Nov 2003
            • 1629

            #110
            Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

            Originally posted by SeaNNyT
            In the 2k baseball games this is true. In it's basketball games this is not the case.

            So it doesn't matter if you adjust the sliders on rookie or legend, if they end up in the same spot it will affect the game exactly the same whether you start in rookie or legend.
            agreed......the initial level choice is HUGE in basketball games.

            Here, you go Rookie and put it @ 50 it equals 50 on Legend. I think guys just like to say they kick a$$ on Legend.....Manhood thing.

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            • bigfnjoe96
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 11410

              #111
              Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

              Originally posted by Zalf
              Still getting some 20 run slug fests with these(and these sliders are the best I've tried so far). The difficulty flipping from All-Pro to Pro when dropping AI power even one point hurts. I'm not sure if there is a way to do this with sliders and keep the All-Pro difficulty. This is starting to look like its going to take some roster mod's to make it work.

              Good to average pitcher on average to poor power hitter every thing works fine. The second a halfway decent power hitter steps in the box for AI or Human it becomes a coin flip regardless of the pitches made.
              Zalf, I re-did the slider's on the 1st post with some specific instructions which help keep all the sliders in Custom-A without them ever going to Custom-P. If you follow those instructions you should be good

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              • BrandonMUC05
                Rookie
                • Mar 2008
                • 59

                #112
                Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                First off... Thanks Joe for the sliders as always. Thanks to everyone else to for making this thread a really good read.

                Ok.. now for my stupid question. I edit my sliders in the VIP from the main menu, but then when I play a franchise game, they are not there. Even though, they are set to be there. What am I doing wrong? I know it's something stupid, but I can't figure it out. Thanks

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                • j-rod1326
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 205

                  #113
                  Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                  Throw strike sliders at 40? have you had any success working counts and drawing walks. What do your pitch counts look like for CPU and User?

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                  • Chappy
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 925

                    #114
                    Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                    I tried the new set of sliders... Something is just not right. CPU just throws strikes. Not once will they throw a ball. I've also noticed that just by grazing the strike zone box it rings you up as a strike...

                    Can the balls/strike ratio be fixed???

                    It's really weird.. Is it me?? I just WANT to love this game?? I'm noticing all these "little" things that piss me off with this game, but I continue to play it???
                    Last edited by Chappy; 03-08-2008, 07:06 PM.

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                    • orthostud23
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 570

                      #115
                      Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                      Originally posted by BrandonMUC05
                      Ok.. now for my stupid question. I edit my sliders in the VIP from the main menu, but then when I play a franchise game, they are not there. Even though, they are set to be there. What am I doing wrong? I know it's something stupid, but I can't figure it out. Thanks
                      You need to edit the sliders in your FRANCHISE prior to starting a game. The ones you have set for now are for exhibition games.
                      STEAM PROFILE: STEAM_0:1:39676753

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                      • therizing02
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4176

                        #116
                        Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                        Originally posted by Chappy
                        I tried the new set of sliders... Something is just not right. CPU just throws strikes. Not once will they throw a ball. I've also noticed that just by grazing the strike zone box it rings you up as a strike...

                        Can the balls/strike ratio be fixed???

                        It's really weird.. Is it me?? I just WANT to love this game?? I'm noticing all these "little" things that piss me off with this game, but I continue to play it???
                        It's not just you. These sliders play pretty well, but the CPU does throw too many strikes. The only settings for the CPU Strike sliders should be 0 or maybe a little bit above that, otherwise you'll see some insane strike/ball ratios.

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                        • Jistic
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 16405

                          #117
                          Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                          Originally posted by Chappy
                          Can the balls/strike ratio be fixed???
                          Absolutely. When set to 0 the CPU throws TOO many balls. You can walk all day. So I'm sure a happy medium can be found.

                          What I have a hard time with is the Pitcher Difficulty slider. When it's too high, the better CPU pitchers seem to almost never throw a ball. I'm still not sure where to put this.

                          I also need the human pitching to be harder. I've turned the total control difficulty up to about 75, but I think it needs more.
                          PSN: JISTIC_OS
                          XBOX LIVE: JISTIC

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                          • Amazin
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 127

                            #118
                            Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                            Very strange happenings here. I created custom sliders starting with the all star difficulty. I then played a few exhibition games and decided I was hitting to many homeruns so I lowered my skill, contact, and power sliders. I also decided I would try to lower cpu power and it actually allowed me to set it anywhere from 0-100 which it would not allow me to do before. Another thing is the cpu outfield reaction speed slider will not go below 60 without changing all the sliders to pro difficulty. I seem to think there is some kind of DYNAMIC setting happening here. Maybe tied to your VIP and game tendencies?

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                            • BrandonMUC05
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 59

                              #119
                              Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                              Pitcher Fatigue...

                              Seems like it drops really quick... or could this just be me not pitching the right way and not using the effectivness part right

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                              • bigfnjoe96
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 11410

                                #120
                                Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

                                For those looking to make changes. May I suggest you do it from the Main Page & not after you load-up your exhibition game. This is where the problem happens. As for the AI Throw Strikes 0 seems to be the most logical setting so I have made that change to the 1st page. Really wish the sliders weren't so Ratings Based.

                                Jistic, are you getting a sense that the Pitcher Difficulty Slider might also play a part in why AI Pitcher's are not throwing many balls?

                                Also do you guys think the AI Corner Slider is playing a part in why the AI can get those suspect corner strikes?
                                Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 03-08-2008, 08:05 PM.

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