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  • mjb2124
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #271
    Re: Official Slider Discussion

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    wildcatchild said:
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    globalbeats7 said:
    i am not sure if i am playing the same game as i read some of you's sliders. i play on legend and have human power down to 32. yet i have 3 guys in the top 5 in home runs in the majors. i raised AI pitching alot. corner pitching up to about 90. i was gettin pitches down the middle way too many times and that would result in the long ball. i also moved up the "change of speed" to about 75. everything else really is the same. i jacked up AI baserunning to 95 so that they try to advance to the next base more frequently. at times the AI wasnt trying to advance even if the ball was at the wall and my guy is just grabbin it. i also moved up AI batting. meaning i moved up their ability to take pitches whether they are balls or strikes. makes me work the batter more. but thats about it. i just dont see how some of you have power at 45. i was getting easy 3-4 homers a game at 40.

    anyone know the effect of the human pitching fatigue? i know some of you have discussed it in the previous posts. HOWEVER, i have the fatigue on set on 20. YET, my number 1 and 2 pitchers have "tired" in the 70 pitch count. i move the slider up the other way to about 80 and they tire much faster. so obviously the lower the slider the less they fatigue. it just seems like all that movement on slider doesnt do much to the fatigue. its a very very small increase or decrease. just wanted to know if someone has had any luck with it. thanks!

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    I lowered all the hitting numbers down to 33: Human Power, AI Power, AI Contact, and AI Skill. The result? An 18-inning marathon with my Cubs beating the Braves 3-2. I think I struck out 14 batters while striking out 12 times myself. I basically used JB's sliders and tweaked the above numbers. There was two homeruns hit in the game: One by Alex Gonzalez and one by Chipper Jones. Derrick Lee and Ramon Martinez hit shots off the wall, as did J.D. Drew. So, as you can see, it was pretty random, though I did feel like I could strike the computer out easily sometimes. Will be tweaking some more to get more realism.

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    Yeah I had my first blowout with my sliders last night so I might start doing some tweaking. I won 18-6. Granted the CPU starting pitcher got injured and the reliever they brought in walked 6 hitters so that was part of it.

    However, I've seen a little too much power from the CPU and from the Human player. When I get home from work I think I'm going to drop that down and test it out. That 18-6 game had about 6 HR's by me and about 3 by the CPU. Too many IMO....

    Striking out the CPU is still a challenge for me. I only get about 6-7/game with guys like Pedro and Schilling. That seems about right.

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    • GSW
      Simnation
      • Feb 2003
      • 8041

      #272
      Re: Official Slider Discussion

      i cannot hit homers with your sliders joe boo, in 4 games ive hit one homer, ( with Grissom) bonds has weak dribblers, and maybe once flied out.
      #Simnation

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      • GSW
        Simnation
        • Feb 2003
        • 8041

        #273
        Re: Official Slider Discussion

        i cannot hit homers with your sliders joe boo, in 4 games ive hit one homer, ( with Grissom) bonds has weak dribblers, and maybe once flied out.
        #Simnation

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        • GSW
          Simnation
          • Feb 2003
          • 8041

          #274
          Re: Official Slider Discussion

          i cannot hit homers with your sliders joe boo, in 4 games ive hit one homer, ( with Grissom) bonds has weak dribblers, and maybe once flied out.
          #Simnation

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          • mjb2124
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 13649

            #275
            Re: Official Slider Discussion

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            GoldenstWarrior said:
            i cannot hit homers with your sliders joe boo, in 4 games ive hit one homer, ( with Grissom) bonds has weak dribblers, and maybe once flied out.

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            Man, I don't know what to tell you. I even lowered Human power for me because I was hitting 4-5/game. The biggest thing I do is have patience at the plate. I take a lot of pitches and wait for one in a power hitters red zone.

            You might want to bump up the power and then drop it down once you start getting too many HR's.

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            • mjb2124
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 13649

              #276
              Re: Official Slider Discussion

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              GoldenstWarrior said:
              i cannot hit homers with your sliders joe boo, in 4 games ive hit one homer, ( with Grissom) bonds has weak dribblers, and maybe once flied out.

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              Man, I don't know what to tell you. I even lowered Human power for me because I was hitting 4-5/game. The biggest thing I do is have patience at the plate. I take a lot of pitches and wait for one in a power hitters red zone.

              You might want to bump up the power and then drop it down once you start getting too many HR's.

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              • mjb2124
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13649

                #277
                Re: Official Slider Discussion

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                GoldenstWarrior said:
                i cannot hit homers with your sliders joe boo, in 4 games ive hit one homer, ( with Grissom) bonds has weak dribblers, and maybe once flied out.

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                Man, I don't know what to tell you. I even lowered Human power for me because I was hitting 4-5/game. The biggest thing I do is have patience at the plate. I take a lot of pitches and wait for one in a power hitters red zone.

                You might want to bump up the power and then drop it down once you start getting too many HR's.

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                • glessig
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 113

                  #278
                  Re: Official Slider Discussion

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                  joeboo said:
                  No Problem. Here's what I've been using the last 2 or 3 games (these are also being tweaked quite often):

                  ** Vibration is off under Presentation

                  SETUP SCREEN:
                  Legend
                  Confidence Off
                  Everything else on that screen is on

                  GAMEPLAY SCREEN
                  Real Pitch Speed
                  Everything else is off

                  CONTROLS SCREEN
                  True Aim
                  Classic 1 button swing
                  Power Pitching On
                  Everything else Off (might turn auto round bases back on)

                  HUMAN OFFENSE (haven't messed with these much)
                  Power 50
                  Baserunning Speed 45
                  Steal Success 50

                  HUMAN DEFENSE
                  All at 50

                  HUMAN PITCHING
                  Variability 55
                  Fatigue 45 (not sure if down increases fatigue or lowers it? This seems good for me though.)

                  AI BATTING
                  Contact 47
                  Skill 47
                  Take Strike Overall 55
                  Take Strike Ahead 53
                  Take Strike Behind 50
                  Take Ball Overall 48
                  Take Ball Ahead 55
                  Take Ball Behind 47
                  Hitting Power 47

                  AI RUNNING
                  Aggressive 50
                  Steal 2nd 55
                  Steal 3rd 50

                  AI PITCHING
                  Corner 55
                  Change Speed 57
                  Change Location 55
                  Throw Strike Overall 33
                  Throw Strike Ahead 42
                  Throw Strike Behind 47
                  Pickoff 50
                  Pitchout 50

                  MISC
                  All at 50

                  These have given me pretty good games. The last few games I've been able to put a decent amount of runs on the board late in the game. I'm not sure if this is a slider problem or just luck.

                  Just waiting for Millenium's final roster before I start my franchise. Hopefully I'll have settled on a set of sliders.

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                  Have you made any adjustments to your sliders since you posted them. If so could you post the updated ones. So far your sliders are the best by far.


                  Regards,
                  Geo

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                  • glessig
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 113

                    #279
                    Re: Official Slider Discussion

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    joeboo said:
                    No Problem. Here's what I've been using the last 2 or 3 games (these are also being tweaked quite often):

                    ** Vibration is off under Presentation

                    SETUP SCREEN:
                    Legend
                    Confidence Off
                    Everything else on that screen is on

                    GAMEPLAY SCREEN
                    Real Pitch Speed
                    Everything else is off

                    CONTROLS SCREEN
                    True Aim
                    Classic 1 button swing
                    Power Pitching On
                    Everything else Off (might turn auto round bases back on)

                    HUMAN OFFENSE (haven't messed with these much)
                    Power 50
                    Baserunning Speed 45
                    Steal Success 50

                    HUMAN DEFENSE
                    All at 50

                    HUMAN PITCHING
                    Variability 55
                    Fatigue 45 (not sure if down increases fatigue or lowers it? This seems good for me though.)

                    AI BATTING
                    Contact 47
                    Skill 47
                    Take Strike Overall 55
                    Take Strike Ahead 53
                    Take Strike Behind 50
                    Take Ball Overall 48
                    Take Ball Ahead 55
                    Take Ball Behind 47
                    Hitting Power 47

                    AI RUNNING
                    Aggressive 50
                    Steal 2nd 55
                    Steal 3rd 50

                    AI PITCHING
                    Corner 55
                    Change Speed 57
                    Change Location 55
                    Throw Strike Overall 33
                    Throw Strike Ahead 42
                    Throw Strike Behind 47
                    Pickoff 50
                    Pitchout 50

                    MISC
                    All at 50

                    These have given me pretty good games. The last few games I've been able to put a decent amount of runs on the board late in the game. I'm not sure if this is a slider problem or just luck.

                    Just waiting for Millenium's final roster before I start my franchise. Hopefully I'll have settled on a set of sliders.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Have you made any adjustments to your sliders since you posted them. If so could you post the updated ones. So far your sliders are the best by far.


                    Regards,
                    Geo

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                    • glessig
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 113

                      #280
                      Re: Official Slider Discussion

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      joeboo said:
                      No Problem. Here's what I've been using the last 2 or 3 games (these are also being tweaked quite often):

                      ** Vibration is off under Presentation

                      SETUP SCREEN:
                      Legend
                      Confidence Off
                      Everything else on that screen is on

                      GAMEPLAY SCREEN
                      Real Pitch Speed
                      Everything else is off

                      CONTROLS SCREEN
                      True Aim
                      Classic 1 button swing
                      Power Pitching On
                      Everything else Off (might turn auto round bases back on)

                      HUMAN OFFENSE (haven't messed with these much)
                      Power 50
                      Baserunning Speed 45
                      Steal Success 50

                      HUMAN DEFENSE
                      All at 50

                      HUMAN PITCHING
                      Variability 55
                      Fatigue 45 (not sure if down increases fatigue or lowers it? This seems good for me though.)

                      AI BATTING
                      Contact 47
                      Skill 47
                      Take Strike Overall 55
                      Take Strike Ahead 53
                      Take Strike Behind 50
                      Take Ball Overall 48
                      Take Ball Ahead 55
                      Take Ball Behind 47
                      Hitting Power 47

                      AI RUNNING
                      Aggressive 50
                      Steal 2nd 55
                      Steal 3rd 50

                      AI PITCHING
                      Corner 55
                      Change Speed 57
                      Change Location 55
                      Throw Strike Overall 33
                      Throw Strike Ahead 42
                      Throw Strike Behind 47
                      Pickoff 50
                      Pitchout 50

                      MISC
                      All at 50

                      These have given me pretty good games. The last few games I've been able to put a decent amount of runs on the board late in the game. I'm not sure if this is a slider problem or just luck.

                      Just waiting for Millenium's final roster before I start my franchise. Hopefully I'll have settled on a set of sliders.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Have you made any adjustments to your sliders since you posted them. If so could you post the updated ones. So far your sliders are the best by far.


                      Regards,
                      Geo

                      Comment

                      • mjb2124
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13649

                        #281
                        Re: Official Slider Discussion

                        Glessig - Here ya go....

                        UPDATED SLIDERS:

                        - All updates are in bold.

                        ** Vibration is off under Presentation

                        SETUP SCREEN:
                        Legend
                        Confidence Off
                        Everything else on that screen is on

                        GAMEPLAY SCREEN
                        Real Pitch Speed
                        Everything else is off

                        CONTROLS SCREEN
                        True Aim
                        Classic 1 button swing
                        Power Pitching On
                        Auto Round Bases - Just my preference

                        HUMAN OFFENSE
                        Power 46 - I hit too many at 50. This suits my hitting ability pretty well.
                        Baserunning Speed 45
                        Steal Success 50

                        HUMAN DEFENSE
                        Infield Errors 47 - Way too many errors pulling the 1B off the bag at 50. This seems good.
                        The rest at 50

                        HUMAN PITCHING
                        Variability 57 - Up 2. Just to throw a few more balls.
                        Fatigue 45

                        AI BATTING
                        Contact 45 - GIving up way too many hits. This is better for me.
                        Skill 45 - Same as above.
                        Take Strike Overall 55
                        Take Strike Ahead 53
                        Take Strike Behind 50
                        Take Ball Overall 48
                        Take Ball Ahead 55
                        Take Ball Behind 47
                        Hitting Power 43 - Seems good for me. Was giving up a lot of HR's on good pitches. This seems more realistic.

                        AI RUNNING
                        Aggressive 55 - CPU needs to be a little more aggressive trying to score at times.
                        Steal 2nd 55
                        Steal 3rd 53 - CPU will try to swipe 3rd with fast guys at times.

                        AI PITCHING
                        Corner 55
                        Change Speed 57
                        Change Location 55
                        Throw Strike Overall 33
                        Throw Strike Ahead 42
                        Throw Strike Behind 47
                        Pickoff 50
                        Pitchout 50

                        MISC
                        All at 50

                        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        Those are the changes I've made as of now. I'm just going game by game and editing. I'll try to keep these updated whenever I make some changes.

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                        • mjb2124
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13649

                          #282
                          Re: Official Slider Discussion

                          Glessig - Here ya go....

                          UPDATED SLIDERS:

                          - All updates are in bold.

                          ** Vibration is off under Presentation

                          SETUP SCREEN:
                          Legend
                          Confidence Off
                          Everything else on that screen is on

                          GAMEPLAY SCREEN
                          Real Pitch Speed
                          Everything else is off

                          CONTROLS SCREEN
                          True Aim
                          Classic 1 button swing
                          Power Pitching On
                          Auto Round Bases - Just my preference

                          HUMAN OFFENSE
                          Power 46 - I hit too many at 50. This suits my hitting ability pretty well.
                          Baserunning Speed 45
                          Steal Success 50

                          HUMAN DEFENSE
                          Infield Errors 47 - Way too many errors pulling the 1B off the bag at 50. This seems good.
                          The rest at 50

                          HUMAN PITCHING
                          Variability 57 - Up 2. Just to throw a few more balls.
                          Fatigue 45

                          AI BATTING
                          Contact 45 - GIving up way too many hits. This is better for me.
                          Skill 45 - Same as above.
                          Take Strike Overall 55
                          Take Strike Ahead 53
                          Take Strike Behind 50
                          Take Ball Overall 48
                          Take Ball Ahead 55
                          Take Ball Behind 47
                          Hitting Power 43 - Seems good for me. Was giving up a lot of HR's on good pitches. This seems more realistic.

                          AI RUNNING
                          Aggressive 55 - CPU needs to be a little more aggressive trying to score at times.
                          Steal 2nd 55
                          Steal 3rd 53 - CPU will try to swipe 3rd with fast guys at times.

                          AI PITCHING
                          Corner 55
                          Change Speed 57
                          Change Location 55
                          Throw Strike Overall 33
                          Throw Strike Ahead 42
                          Throw Strike Behind 47
                          Pickoff 50
                          Pitchout 50

                          MISC
                          All at 50

                          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Those are the changes I've made as of now. I'm just going game by game and editing. I'll try to keep these updated whenever I make some changes.

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                          • mjb2124
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13649

                            #283
                            Re: Official Slider Discussion

                            Glessig - Here ya go....

                            UPDATED SLIDERS:

                            - All updates are in bold.

                            ** Vibration is off under Presentation

                            SETUP SCREEN:
                            Legend
                            Confidence Off
                            Everything else on that screen is on

                            GAMEPLAY SCREEN
                            Real Pitch Speed
                            Everything else is off

                            CONTROLS SCREEN
                            True Aim
                            Classic 1 button swing
                            Power Pitching On
                            Auto Round Bases - Just my preference

                            HUMAN OFFENSE
                            Power 46 - I hit too many at 50. This suits my hitting ability pretty well.
                            Baserunning Speed 45
                            Steal Success 50

                            HUMAN DEFENSE
                            Infield Errors 47 - Way too many errors pulling the 1B off the bag at 50. This seems good.
                            The rest at 50

                            HUMAN PITCHING
                            Variability 57 - Up 2. Just to throw a few more balls.
                            Fatigue 45

                            AI BATTING
                            Contact 45 - GIving up way too many hits. This is better for me.
                            Skill 45 - Same as above.
                            Take Strike Overall 55
                            Take Strike Ahead 53
                            Take Strike Behind 50
                            Take Ball Overall 48
                            Take Ball Ahead 55
                            Take Ball Behind 47
                            Hitting Power 43 - Seems good for me. Was giving up a lot of HR's on good pitches. This seems more realistic.

                            AI RUNNING
                            Aggressive 55 - CPU needs to be a little more aggressive trying to score at times.
                            Steal 2nd 55
                            Steal 3rd 53 - CPU will try to swipe 3rd with fast guys at times.

                            AI PITCHING
                            Corner 55
                            Change Speed 57
                            Change Location 55
                            Throw Strike Overall 33
                            Throw Strike Ahead 42
                            Throw Strike Behind 47
                            Pickoff 50
                            Pitchout 50

                            MISC
                            All at 50

                            -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                            Those are the changes I've made as of now. I'm just going game by game and editing. I'll try to keep these updated whenever I make some changes.

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                            • glessig
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 113

                              #284
                              Re: Official Slider Discussion

                              Thanks for the update Joeboo. I am going to use some of your changes but some are ok yet for me so I'm not going to change them.

                              What team are you using in your Franchise ??

                              Regards,
                              Geo

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                              • glessig
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 113

                                #285
                                Re: Official Slider Discussion

                                Thanks for the update Joeboo. I am going to use some of your changes but some are ok yet for me so I'm not going to change them.

                                What team are you using in your Franchise ??

                                Regards,
                                Geo

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