Official Barry Bonds Thread

[cjonesfan921]

Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

Now to watch ESPN kiss his arse some more.

[mjb2124]

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He has to either confess like Giambi or have proven facts like Palmeiro and Macman.

Where's the proof with Mac? He never tested positive and never admitted to it.

I do think he took them, but to be fair with your criteria, he hasn't been proven.

Oh yeah, still haven't seen 714 or 715 by Bonds. Don't care if I ever do... Tainted.

[GSW]

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congrats barry!

[BAMJ6]

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Where's the proof with Mac? He never tested positive and never admitted to it.

I do think he took them, but to be fair with your criteria, he hasn't been proven.

Oh ok, how was Sosa linked. I still think it was all because of Cork. A tack on to sink him in public opinion

[GSW]

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Where's the proof with Mac? He never tested positive and never admitted to it.

I do think he took them, but to be fair with your criteria, he hasn't been proven.

Oh yeah, still haven't seen 714 or 715 by Bonds. Don't care if I ever do... Tainted.

I sure would hate for any of you guys to be jurors on a case against me...

[mjb2124]

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Oh ok, how was Sosa linked. I still think it was all because of Cork. A tack on to sink him in public opinion

Sosa's not linked either. He hasn't been proven by facts yet.

Personally I feel a bunch of these guys are guilty, but there aren't facts for most of them (aside from Giambi, Raffy and a few others).

[mjb2124]

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I sure would hate for any of you guys to be jurors on a case against me...

Grand jury testimony is enough for me in Barry's case. I have a hard time believing all this documentation/information is incorrect.

Of course, if Mac/Sosa/Raffy/Canseco/Lawton or any other player that I know or suspect of using was climbing the all time record, I'd feel the same way. All of em cheated in my eyes. Chances are my suspicions are correct.

[BatsareBugs]

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That is a what of what ifs!

Same number of if's you have about Pujols not making it to 600. If he doesn't dominate at age 36, if he doesn't stay health, if his back problems arrive.

[SPTO]

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Where's the proof with Mac? He never tested positive and never admitted to it.

I do think he took them, but to be fair with your criteria, he hasn't been proven.

Oh yeah, still haven't seen 714 or 715 by Bonds. Don't care if I ever do... Tainted.

Joeboo, Androstendion (sp I know I botched that up) was found in Mac's locker and not through snooping. Reporters saw it out there clear as day. Andro is banned in all major sports and the Olympics but at the time baseball didn't have a policy. I don't necessarily think Mac did roids (tho he most likely did it a lot with Canseco) but rather went a different route by that time in his career. (HGH and Andro)

I also haven't seen 714 & 715 either. I 'm not going to listen to ESPN All Night radio program either as i'm sick to death with Bonds. Bonds' achievements have been tainted since '97 which is a shame because he had a HOF career going IMO.

....and Bonds is NOT going to hit 756. He'll probably be in the 740s tho.

[mjb2124]

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Joeboo, Androstendion (sp I know I botched that up) was found in Mac's locker and not through snooping. Reporters saw it out there clear as day. Andro is banned in all major sports and the Olympics but at the time baseball didn't have a policy. I don't necessarily think Mac did roids (tho he most likely did it a lot with Canseco) but rather went a different route by that time in his career. (HGH and Andro)

I do recall that, but to the best of my knowledge, Andro isn't a steroid. It's a pre-cursor to testosterone though (which is still bad for one's body). That's why I always say there isn't anything against Mac (although IMO I believe he was using some form of steroids along with Andro).

[SPTO]

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Would you consider HGH a performing enhancer? I know there's no evidence for Mac doing that but i'd just like your opinion is all.

[CoRruPt-]

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Poor Byung Hyung Kim, always victimized in the worst possible situations.

[Vince]

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Would you consider HGH a performing enhancer? I know there's no evidence for Mac doing that but i'd just like your opinion is all.

OF course it is...

[BAMJ6]

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Joeboo, Androstendion (sp I know I botched that up) was found in Mac's locker and not through snooping. Reporters saw it out there clear as day. Andro is banned in all major sports and the Olympics but at the time baseball didn't have a policy. I don't necessarily think Mac did roids (tho he most likely did it a lot with Canseco) but rather went a different route by that time in his career. (HGH and Andro)

I also haven't seen 714 & 715 either. I 'm not going to listen to ESPN All Night radio program either as i'm sick to death with Bonds. Bonds' achievements have been tainted since '97 which is a shame because he had a HOF career going IMO.

....and Bonds is NOT going to hit 756. He'll probably be in the 740s tho.

I know you're bitter, but where did 97 come from?

[mjb2124]

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Would you consider HGH a performing enhancer? I know there's no evidence for Mac doing that but i'd just like your opinion is all.

Definately. From what I've read, HGH is pretty much near the top of the line in terms of performance enhancers. It provides extremely fast results, but is very expensive.

That's why I think many of the bigger names have used that - they've got the money to get it. It still isn't tested for in baseball.

My guess is that HGH is what guys like Giambi, Bonds, Mac, Canseco and Sosa used. Just my opinion though.