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  • thefakeJTS
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    • Nov 2012
    • 913

    #151
    The White Sox would be crazy to turn down that trade. However, as a Braves fan I hope they do haha.

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    • CameRoN0407
      It's a New England Thing
      • Oct 2012
      • 3328

      #152
      WTF? Why in the great man up there's name decline a trade that involves one of the best pitching prospects on the market, for an above average SS? I really hope that they really didn't decline it, because if they did, Chicago really needs to look into other GMs. (Not that they already should)


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      • Chaos81
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 17150

        #153
        Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

        @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Royals willing to listen on Ervin Santana, would move for right offer.


        Probably won't happen since I'm sure the cost will be insanely high, but it's a start.

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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #154
          Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

          I think they should move him. He'd probably be the best pitcher on the market (only one close is Peavy imo), and I think he'd get a solid haul. They shouldn't be holding out for some ridiculous package or anything, honestly.
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          • royals19
            MVP
            • Jan 2012
            • 2182

            #155
            Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

            Originally posted by Chaos81
            @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Royals willing to listen on Ervin Santana, would move for right offer.


            Probably won't happen since I'm sure the cost will be insanely high, but it's a start.
            Originally posted by ACMilan99
            I think they should move him. He'd probably be the best pitcher on the market (only one close is Peavy imo), and I think he'd get a solid haul. They shouldn't be holding out for some ridiculous package or anything, honestly.
            I'll start off by saying it's about dang time that they decided to sell... This we can catch up to "Detroit and beat out Cleveland even though we're 6 games under .500" was ridiculous to even begin with.

            If the Royals are smart, then they'll deal him sooner rather than later.. meaning they better trade him for a good package before a market for starting pitching develops. Teams will overpay big time for quality starting pitching and if someone isn't going to overpay, then we might as well hang onto him.



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            • AC
              Win the East
              • Sep 2010
              • 14951

              #156
              Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

              I bet Pittsburgh would give a solid prospect for him, maybe the Phillies if they're dumb, but I could definitely see Santana ending up in Washington.
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              • Chaos81
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 17150

                #157
                Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                I think they should move him.
                I do too, I just think Dayton probably feels like the Royals are still in things, and as such, if he's going to give up the opportunity to compete he needs to get an insane return.

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                • WaitTilNextYear
                  Go Cubs Go
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16830

                  #158
                  Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                  Problem for Dayton Moore is selling now basically confirms the mistake he made in the James Shields trade. I mean what are the chances they meet his asking price now?
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                  • royals19
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2182

                    #159
                    Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                    Problem for Dayton Moore is selling now basically confirms the mistake he made in the James Shields trade. I mean what are the chances the meet his asking price now?
                    I wouldn't exactly call it a mistake trading for James Shields last offseason. This was one of those, "Well if we win this year great, if we don't oh well". I believe that the real goal is to compete in 2014 and Shields will still be around then and hopefully a winning season where they make the postseason will sway his mind.

                    If James Shields doesn't resign and the Royals trade Ervin Santana or he doesn't resign, we're right back to square 1 in 2015 with Jeremy Guthrie and Wade Davis leading the rotation supplemented by homegrown guys that will need time to adjust to the big leagues.



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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #160
                      Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                      Originally posted by royals19
                      "Well if we win this year great, if we don't oh well"
                      I wouldn't quite shrug off trading the #4 prospect in baseball in an effort to compete that went awry as "oh well"
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                      • WaitTilNextYear
                        Go Cubs Go
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #161
                        Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                        Yeah, my view is more in line with AC in that the Royals made a "one more piece" move (well actually 2 more since they got Davis too) when they were about 6-7 pieces shy of a playoff contender. And they paid a steep price in prospects (Myers, Odo, Leonard). Even, if it went well and KC actually made the playoffs, paying Shields and piecing together a competitive team for 2014 was always going to be a problem.

                        But, yeah, @royals19 I can see why you'd like James Shields as a Royals fan. He's good!

                        But, if you think about it, it was almost like when Jim Hendry dealt for Matt Garza when the Cubs were already on the downslope of their little playoff run there.
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                        • TheMatrix31
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52920

                          #162
                          Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                          With no Kris Medlen-to-the-bullpen now, I expect the Braves to add two relievers instead of one. Would be a good idea, anyway.

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                          • PhilliesFan13
                            Banned
                            • May 2009
                            • 15651

                            #163
                            Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                            With the way the Phillies and Nationals have played lately, and now being 8 games and 9 games back respectively, neither team has any business being buyers. The Phillies haven't said so, but that poor showing against the Cardinals tonight put up the for sale sign in my book. I'd put everyone up for sale except Hamels, Lee, Brown, Revere, and Utley. Hamels, Brown, and Revere are definitely not going anywhere anyway, but just saying. Everyone else....have at it.

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                            • philliesfan136
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 4263

                              #164
                              Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                              Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                              With the way the Phillies and Nationals have played lately, and now being 8 games and 9 games back respectively, neither team has any business being buyers. The Phillies haven't said so, but that poor showing against the Cardinals tonight put up the for sale sign in my book. I'd put everyone up for sale except Hamels, Lee, Brown, Revere, and Utley. Hamels, Brown, and Revere are definitely not going anywhere anyway, but just saying. Everyone else....have at it.
                              right. I've just about given up now - with the team they have, there's no way they'd be able to compete with the NL's best teams (or even the AL's, honestly).

                              I'd like to keep all the guys you said, and maybe Papelbon. I'm hoping if we do put him on the block we'd actually be able to get a nice haul, as opposed to what is being said about him (his contract makes him "virtually untradeable").

                              It was a good run, but the window is all but closing.
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                              • PhilliesFan13
                                Banned
                                • May 2009
                                • 15651

                                #165
                                Re: 2013 Trade Deadline Thread

                                Originally posted by philliesfan136
                                right. I've just about given up now - with the team they have, there's no way they'd be able to compete with the NL's best teams (or even the AL's, honestly).

                                I'd like to keep all the guys you said, and maybe Papelbon. I'm hoping if we do put him on the block we'd actually be able to get a nice haul, as opposed to what is being said about him (his contract makes him "virtually untradeable").

                                It was a good run, but the window is all but closing.
                                The Cardinals and the Pirates are the best teams in the NL. The Dodgers will come back to Earth real fast.

                                I wanted to keep Papelbon, but I'm at the point now where I have no problem making him available and seeing if anyone bites. Hard guy to trade with the way he's been pitching lately and that contract, but a desperate team may bite. Not to mention there is no point having a top closer when you aren't going anywhere.

                                I wouldn't mind seeing Rollins go. He is the biggest offender in my opinion of showing he isn't hungry to win anymore. Michael Young will most likely be the first one to go. I wouldn't be shocked to see him gone by Monday after the Tigers series is over. I think Ruiz definitely goes too. When it comes to Cliff Lee though, I would have to think the Phillies would have to be mind boggling blown away to move him. Gonna be an interesting week leading up to the deadline for sure, and it wouldn't surprise me to see a whole different team beginning Tuesday against the Giants.

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