MLB Off-Topic

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Majingir
    Moderator
    • Apr 2005
    • 47473

    #18541
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Just a note for anyone trying to resell tickets.

    Not sure if it's this year or it happened before, but barcodes don't work when sending/selling tickets through stubhub. At least not yet. So when selling, make sure your "tickets will be ready by" date is as late as you can. Not sure when it'll be activated, maybe when season starts, or closer to your specific event day.

    I wonder if that's done to prevent double resells.

    So now the person you sell to won't flip it immediately for more money or something.

    The Bautista day here blew up. Sucks I didn't get more tickets when I had the chance. $30 tickets now reselling for over 3 times the amount of money. I'm already going for free and then some, so I'm glad about that...unless someone wants to buy my lone ticket left for some insane price. I might do it as a joke to see if some site picks up on it. If you hear some story on BR or somewhere like that about some crazy Jays fan wanting millions of dollars for tickets, you know the origin story.

    Realistically, I'm putting it at a few thousand and hoping some fan who has one too many just buys it even as a mistake, because StubHub has to compensate whichever side got shafted if someone backs out (which is also why a joke listing price might backfire if the buyer claims false info)
    Last edited by Majingir; 03-08-2023, 01:52 PM.

    Comment

    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47473

      #18542
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Picking back up the pitch clock talk. A long but interesting read from a TV perspective about the clock.

      When Chris Withers first learned of Major League Baseball's decision to adopt the pitch clock, his immediate thoughts turned to his own quality of life.He's passionate about his job and regarded as one of the best producers in the industry, but if games are 25 minutes shorter, he figures that could mean the equivalent of four fewer days spent in the NBC Sports Chicago truck, where he produces White Sox television broadcasts.In early February, he began to understand how dramatically his job - and the nature of broadcasts - was about to change.Attending a seminar in New York for broadcasters, they were shown some televised minor-league games from last season and examples of the pace changes. He saw firsthand how difficult it was going to be to squeeze in replays, graphics, promos, and ads with only 30 seconds between batters and 15-to-20 seconds between pitches. It's his 18th season on the job, but he began to lose sleep some nights.On Feb. 25 during the White Sox spring opener against the San Diego Padres, he got his first taste of working with baseball's new pace. It was even more jarring.After the game he immediately met with White Sox play-by-play voice Jason Benetti."We are covering a different sport now," Benetti said. Withers agreed."What Jason said keeps hitting me," Withers told theScore this week. "Our jobs are completely different now. Having done three spring training games, it is tenfold more impactful than anything I thought it was going to be just from talking about it."Jason Benetti surveys the scene before a 2019 game at Guaranteed Rate Field. Ron Vesely / Getty ImagesThose following MLB's spring action have seen how some players are struggling to adapt to baseball's new pace and rules, but they're not the only critical industry employees facing a major adjustment.During that first game, Benetti felt the change immediately."I said to Stoney (color analyst Steve Stone) on the air, 'Are we talking faster? I think we're talking faster,'" Benetti said. "It was like, 'Wow,' the cadence and rhythm and the pace of everything we do in the booth felt different."The majority of fans consume baseball through TV. How we watch the game is going to change - a lot.Closed-book examMinor-league games were 25 minutes faster last year with the pitch clock. This spring, theScore found that the first 40 major-league exhibition games were 21 minutes quicker compared to last spring.The amount of commercial time between innings and pitching changes is the same. That means just about all those minutes being shaved off games is coming from time between pitches - time that broadcasters have filled for years with anecdotes, extended replays, pretaped interviews, promotions, or even dead air.Even something as routine as a play-by-play voice knowing when to hand off to the color analyst becomes more complicated. "Everything is sped up," Benetti said. "(Stoney) joked the other day, 'I've been working between games on making my stories shorter.'"Benetti said he doesn't expect there to be much of an issue between him and Stone. "Steve is so good at pausing for a pitch and calmly picking up the story. I've had analysts - and I think both styles work - that talk through the pitch, and if it gets put in play they just stop. Steve has this way where he smoothly pauses, the pitch comes, and if it's fouled away he continues with his story. If not, I pick up the action. He's so good at it."White Sox television announcer Jason Benetti, left, with color analyst Steve Stone in their WGN days. Ron Vesely / Getty ImagesBenetti believes his biggest adjustment will be in his preparation. Broadcasts are no longer open-book exams.He's getting a bit of a head start in adjusting as he's also currently calling college basketball games for Fox. I spoke with Benetti as he arrived in Boise from spring training to call the Big Sky Conference title game.When calling a college hoops game, Benetti doesn't have much time to look at notes. He must memorize facts he might want to retrieve on air since he has to keep his eyes focused on the frenetic, free-flowing action.In the baseball booth during his first seven seasons calling White Sox games, he had plenty of time to search through a document of facts he'd prepared to find a particular note."Previously, with the ability to just wander between pitches, while Steve is talking and I'm listening to him, I could look in my notes and say, 'Oh, here that is,' if I needed to jog my memory," he said. "For instance, if we are talking about a guy and I wanted to confirm a statistic, or where somebody was from, you just had the time. Now you don't."I literally said after the first (White Sox spring) game we did that I feel like we're doing a basketball game."Broadcaster Jon Sciambi talks to Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora before a 2019 game. Billie Weiss / Boston Red Sox / Getty ImagesOn the north side of Chicago, Cubs play-by-play voice Jon Sciambi is also calling college hoops games this spring."After the first college basketball game I do every year, when it ends, it's jarring," he said of basketball's pace. "It ends and I'm like, 'That's it? We're done?'"His baseball experience is now more like that, too.Sciambi knows he'll have to become more efficient. But he also believes there's a benefit for broadcasters in working within tighter time constraints."The way the games have gone, the extra space is just an invitation to say dumb stuff," Sciambi said. "(Now) it's use your best stuff. I certainly hope our broadcasts follow that, and I follow that."What he and Benetti agree on: it's not the play-by-play voices nor their analyst partners who face the greatest tests this year. Rather, it will be the producers: Withers and his peers behind the scenes.A new reality for replayConsider replay, a staple of any sports broadcast given how much dead time there can be amid the action. But the genre is about to be disrupted."I think the home run is going to be a big one," Withers said. Last season, a typical replay sequence after a home run might include six or seven different looks at the swing, outcome, and reactions."If it's a home game, and if it's a White Sox home run, my philosophy is going to change to the point where we are just going to stay live and cover the energy in the ballpark, the high-fives in the dugout," he said. "Because even if I get into a replay the second he crosses home plate, which I don't really want to do, I want to at least milk that a little bit. "The replay sequences I've done in the past would have to be dramatically cut down. At most that's a swing, ball out, and one reaction. And even that would be tough now with our super-slow-mo camera."I'm very interested in what I figure out. Because talking to you right now, I haven't even figured out exactly what I want to do. And then there's the other (replay types) that happen between pitches that aren't home runs."A look inside a NESN production truck. Boston Globe / Getty ImagesWithers isn't shy about experimenting, but he faces a clear constraint to work around. The cardinal sin of a baseball broadcast is missing a pitch, he said.This spring, they've begun to try more double-box replays, where most of the screen remains on the live action and replays appear in a smaller second box. They even branded the replay box "Steve's Replay Corner." (They're not sure if that graphic and branding will stick.)"I'm trying to watch a lot of spring training games and see what everyone else is doing," Withers said. "There was an instance in a Yankees-Toronto spring training game where there was a great running lead by the runner, who took off and stole second. They went into that replay look, and came out, and the pitcher was already halfway through his delivery - and the runner was halfway to third base (on another steal attempt). So that made me think, 'Should we stay live there?' But I also thought it was an important replay to show."He thinks the double-box setup may be the new normal for replay. "I think we could be onto something," he said.Drama: A lost art?One piece of visual evidence pitch-clock haters keep citing is the production of Bryce Harper's home run in the NLCS last fall, the shot that powered the Phillies to the World Series.During the lulls between those high-leverage pitches, Fox cameras were able to capture the scene in full: Harper staring at his bat, then refocusing on the pitcher; the anxious crowd shots; pacing in each dugout. Tension was built through multiple cameras and production sequencing during the seven-pitch, four-minute plate appearance.But such productions will no longer be possible."It's going to be tough to build the drama. That's been another concern of mine," Withers said. "I don't think we'll know until we get into a late-game situation. But there's no question that (the pace) is against us. It's just not going to be feasible to get that tight shot of Bryce Harper's face, tight shot of the pitcher, then the praying hands in the stands, then the runner at second who is the game-winning run, and then get back to camera No. 4 for the pitch."Sure, you can do it quicker, but just speeding up that sequence kills some of the drama. Do we have to lose one of our shots? Yes. I feel for the great directors out there who find all those awesome moments and tell those amazing stories when the game is tight. The simple matter of fact is those sequences just got shorter. You are going to have to pick the absolute best shots. You've probably lost two or three of the ones you're used to doing in a normal sequence."As a narrator of these dramatic moments, Benetti is thinking about his role, too."I was thinking about the NBA Finals. Somebody hits a big three, the coach calls a timeout, and that's a place where you get all the drama of the arena," Benetti said. "I know some (MLB) players have suggested, 'Well, what if the pitch clock were longer in the eighth or ninth innings, or (we) didn't have it at all in the eighth or ninth innings.' I've thought: What if you just had a couple more timeouts? That would solve all of the drama issues, I feel. Batters, they use them. Regardless, whatever the rules are, there is drama in the ballpark."I know the changes are to make sure more people are interested in baseball so there's going to be the cost-benefit analysis of, 'Yeah, it might be something where we lose a little bit of this,' but I also think there are going to be answers. That's where I lean. There will be new answers."ClockworkTV crews are still figuring out how to best incorporate the pitch clock itself into broadcasts. In the first three White Sox broadcasts this spring, Withers was asked to handle the clock differently.In the first game, MLB asked broadcasters to not show the clock until seven seconds remained. NBC pushed back and showed it at 15 seconds in the second game."Then our new edict was 10 seconds," Withers said of Wednesday's telecast. Steph Chambers / Getty ImagesWithers said MLB doesn't want the clock to be "this front-of-the-show-type thing." Some broadcasts have shown the actual digital clock behind home plate. Others have incorporated the countdown within their score graphics."We're still trying to figure it out," Withers said. "That's what spring training is for."The unknownBenetti knows there will be complaints no matter what broadcasts look and sound like early this season."Because Twitter exists, there will be people with grievances," he said.But that's always been the case with anything new and he's excited to experiment. He cited Fox's pioneering of persistent score graphics in the 1990s."People hated it at first, but now you cannot live without it on the screen," he said.He also noted another Fox innovation: the glowing hockey puck, which never caught on among NHL fans.There will be trial and error."The thing I keep coming back to is there are people in the truck who take a very high level of pride in documenting the drama of a sporting event. It's their entire livelihood," Benetti said. "I know (Withers) lives and breathes it. They are going to find a way. I don't know what it will look like. It might be better, it might be worse for a while for people. There are going to be hits, there are going to be misses, but you have to innovate. Someone is going to land on, 'We needed this the whole time.'"A self-described TV nerd, Benetti watched some Stone and Harry Caray broadcasts from the 1980s and early 1990s on YouTube this offseason, games that had a pace more like what we're expecting this season."I do think you can hear in Harry and Steve their level of comfort with the pace of the game," Benetti said. "That was just how it was played." "It's a little bit like that flip-book that shows a president after he's been in office for eight years and how gray he got. Day to day, you cannot see it, but you see it at some point. We got to a threshold level where we just kind of basked in the amount of time we had and we used it how we used it. I think we'll all adapt."What they all agree on: baseball needed this change."How I sum up the (pace issue) is like this: It was taking too long for nothing to happen," Sciambi said. "That's what baseball is when it is at its worst. And when it's at its best, it's as spectacular a sport that's ever been created."Withers said three friends from his fantasy football league reached out to him and said they're more interested in baseball this spring. ESPN's Ben Cafardo reported the network just had its most-watched spring training game since 2016."I think it's going to make the game, and also watching baseball on television, a beautiful sport," Withers said. "It is already a beautiful sport. But I think it's going to make it crisp. I think (in past seasons) people, after a couple hours, after two-and-a-half hours and it's the sixth inning, people just change the channel. So what it does now, there's so much more action, there's a pitch every 15 seconds, there's less time for people to think about changing the channel."ESPN is scheduled to broadcast the White Sox season opener in Houston, so Withers and Benetti will have to wait until the second game of the season to fully enter this new era of broadcasting.Benetti has plans for his Opening Day off day in Houston."I am going to watch literally all of the broadcasts," Benetti said. "We all have this comfort of what baseball on TV was. What is it going to look like from a totally fresh perspective?"Benetti says he's a "big puzzle guy." He loves the clock in part because it seems likely to draw more new fans in, and draw lost fans back to the game. He also loves it for professional reasons: it's a new problem to solve."I love the idea that we're challenged into doing something else, something different, something with a new rhythm and cadence," Benetti said. What will that look like?"I don't know," Benetti said. "But that's the fun of it."Travis Sawchik is theScore's senior baseball writer.



      Different networks will try different things to see what people like the most, but I wonder what will be the one that sticks.

      I wouldn't mind the compromise of no clock on TV until it gets down to those final few seconds (aka the time where batters must be ready, all the way until the pitcher pitches). But at the same time, make the clock look good and not sticking out in a bad way.

      And from a commentators perspective, outside of the fact that it's just a matter of getting use to change, I don't see how they won't mind a shorter/faster game. You don't need to fill as much of the broadcast with random topics for the sake of talking. And networks don't need to show 10 replays an inning because nothing's happening between pitches. Hopefully this doesn't lead to them going to random crowd shots or replays which cause viewers to miss more pitches. Seems to happen a few times every game where you miss a pitch because they were too busy showing some random fan eating popcorn in the stands, or a replay of where a foul ball landed.
      Last edited by Majingir; 03-11-2023, 08:52 PM.

      Comment

      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42515

        #18543
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        I'm going to be really upset with broadcasts the first month of the year talking about these rule changes. I want to pretend like they're not there, just let it quicken the game and ignore it please.

        Pitch clock better not be an OSD feature. Pitchers and batters will most always be on time, and if they're not we'll sense the violation. It'll be a natural flow, unlike basketball which requires development and football which requires the play call (and both scores have a direct connection to their shot/play clock and game clock as well).
        Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

        Comment

        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52707

          #18544
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          This umpire should be banned for life from umpiring at any level of the sport. This is absolute horse****.

          He makes a bad strike 2 call and then an absolutely horrendous strike 3 call to end the game and quickly exits the field like a little bitch.

          Plate umpire Reggie Drummer, who made an egregious third strike call to end Friday's game between New Orleans and Mississippi Valley State, has been suspended indefinitely.
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


          Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

          Comment

          • Jeffrey Smith
            MVP
            • Apr 2014
            • 1925

            #18545
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by countryboy
            This umpire should be banned for life from umpiring at any level of the sport. This is absolute horse****.

            He makes a bad strike 2 call and then an absolutely horrendous strike 3 call to end the game and quickly exits the field like a little bitch.

            https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...call-ends-game

            Just horrible.


            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
            MLB: TORONTO BLUE JAYS
            NFL: MINNESOTA VIKINGS
            NHL: TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS
            NBA: TORONTO RAPTORS

            Comment

            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #18546
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by countryboy
              This umpire should be banned for life from umpiring at any level of the sport. This is absolute horse****.

              He makes a bad strike 2 call and then an absolutely horrendous strike 3 call to end the game and quickly exits the field like a little bitch.

              https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...call-ends-game
              that was remarkable restraint on the batters part.
              I would have had to gone George Brett pinetar ape **** after that call.
              ump must've remembered he left his water running or his oven on at his house,
              trying to finish like that
              OSFM23 - Building Better Baseball - OSFM23

              A Work in Progress

              Comment

              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42515

                #18547
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by countryboy
                This umpire should be banned for life from umpiring at any level of the sport. This is absolute horse****.

                He makes a bad strike 2 call and then an absolutely horrendous strike 3 call to end the game and quickly exits the field like a little bitch.

                https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...call-ends-game
                I didn't think that strike 2 call was that egregious, really. Is it a ball? Oh yes. Bad call? Shouldn't happen. It's what happens afterwards that's terrible, this includes though the whiny ballerina batter doing jump-spins over that call.

                No excuse for that strike three and departure, but I'm guessing if he wasn't shown up the way he was he wouldn't have done that. The previous reaction made him make up his mind. Umpires however must leave emotion at the door.
                Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

                Comment

                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #18548
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  to paraphrase Christy Mathewson,
                  umps are a necessary evil in baseball, like the odor behind an automobile
                  OSFM23 - Building Better Baseball - OSFM23

                  A Work in Progress

                  Comment

                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #18549
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    This umpire should be banned for life from umpiring at any level of the sport. This is absolute horse****.

                    He makes a bad strike 2 call and then an absolutely horrendous strike 3 call to end the game and quickly exits the field like a little bitch.

                    https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...call-ends-game
                    He was suspended indefinitely by the Southland Conference

                    Sent from my SM-G970U using Operation Sports mobile app
                    My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

                    Watch me play video games

                    Comment

                    • Amoo316
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3609

                      #18550
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by Majingir
                      Picking back up the pitch clock talk. A long but interesting read from a TV perspective about the clock.

                      When Chris Withers first learned of Major League Baseball's decision to adopt the pitch clock, his immediate thoughts turned to his own quality of life.He's passionate about his job and regarded as one of the best producers in the industry, but if games are 25 minutes shorter, he figures that could mean the equivalent of four fewer days spent in the NBC Sports Chicago truck, where he produces White Sox television broadcasts.In early February, he began to understand how dramatically his job - and the nature of broadcasts - was about to change.Attending a seminar in New York for broadcasters, they were shown some televised minor-league games from last season and examples of the pace changes. He saw firsthand how difficult it was going to be to squeeze in replays, graphics, promos, and ads with only 30 seconds between batters and 15-to-20 seconds between pitches. It's his 18th season on the job, but he began to lose sleep some nights.On Feb. 25 during the White Sox spring opener against the San Diego Padres, he got his first taste of working with baseball's new pace. It was even more jarring.After the game he immediately met with White Sox play-by-play voice Jason Benetti."We are covering a different sport now," Benetti said. Withers agreed."What Jason said keeps hitting me," Withers told theScore this week. "Our jobs are completely different now. Having done three spring training games, it is tenfold more impactful than anything I thought it was going to be just from talking about it."Jason Benetti surveys the scene before a 2019 game at Guaranteed Rate Field. Ron Vesely / Getty ImagesThose following MLB's spring action have seen how some players are struggling to adapt to baseball's new pace and rules, but they're not the only critical industry employees facing a major adjustment.During that first game, Benetti felt the change immediately."I said to Stoney (color analyst Steve Stone) on the air, 'Are we talking faster? I think we're talking faster,'" Benetti said. "It was like, 'Wow,' the cadence and rhythm and the pace of everything we do in the booth felt different."The majority of fans consume baseball through TV. How we watch the game is going to change - a lot.Closed-book examMinor-league games were 25 minutes faster last year with the pitch clock. This spring, theScore found that the first 40 major-league exhibition games were 21 minutes quicker compared to last spring.The amount of commercial time between innings and pitching changes is the same. That means just about all those minutes being shaved off games is coming from time between pitches - time that broadcasters have filled for years with anecdotes, extended replays, pretaped interviews, promotions, or even dead air.Even something as routine as a play-by-play voice knowing when to hand off to the color analyst becomes more complicated. "Everything is sped up," Benetti said. "(Stoney) joked the other day, 'I've been working between games on making my stories shorter.'"Benetti said he doesn't expect there to be much of an issue between him and Stone. "Steve is so good at pausing for a pitch and calmly picking up the story. I've had analysts - and I think both styles work - that talk through the pitch, and if it gets put in play they just stop. Steve has this way where he smoothly pauses, the pitch comes, and if it's fouled away he continues with his story. If not, I pick up the action. He's so good at it."White Sox television announcer Jason Benetti, left, with color analyst Steve Stone in their WGN days. Ron Vesely / Getty ImagesBenetti believes his biggest adjustment will be in his preparation. Broadcasts are no longer open-book exams.He's getting a bit of a head start in adjusting as he's also currently calling college basketball games for Fox. I spoke with Benetti as he arrived in Boise from spring training to call the Big Sky Conference title game.When calling a college hoops game, Benetti doesn't have much time to look at notes. He must memorize facts he might want to retrieve on air since he has to keep his eyes focused on the frenetic, free-flowing action.In the baseball booth during his first seven seasons calling White Sox games, he had plenty of time to search through a document of facts he'd prepared to find a particular note."Previously, with the ability to just wander between pitches, while Steve is talking and I'm listening to him, I could look in my notes and say, 'Oh, here that is,' if I needed to jog my memory," he said. "For instance, if we are talking about a guy and I wanted to confirm a statistic, or where somebody was from, you just had the time. Now you don't."I literally said after the first (White Sox spring) game we did that I feel like we're doing a basketball game."Broadcaster Jon Sciambi talks to Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora before a 2019 game. Billie Weiss / Boston Red Sox / Getty ImagesOn the north side of Chicago, Cubs play-by-play voice Jon Sciambi is also calling college hoops games this spring."After the first college basketball game I do every year, when it ends, it's jarring," he said of basketball's pace. "It ends and I'm like, 'That's it? We're done?'"His baseball experience is now more like that, too.Sciambi knows he'll have to become more efficient. But he also believes there's a benefit for broadcasters in working within tighter time constraints."The way the games have gone, the extra space is just an invitation to say dumb stuff," Sciambi said. "(Now) it's use your best stuff. I certainly hope our broadcasts follow that, and I follow that."What he and Benetti agree on: it's not the play-by-play voices nor their analyst partners who face the greatest tests this year. Rather, it will be the producers: Withers and his peers behind the scenes.A new reality for replayConsider replay, a staple of any sports broadcast given how much dead time there can be amid the action. But the genre is about to be disrupted."I think the home run is going to be a big one," Withers said. Last season, a typical replay sequence after a home run might include six or seven different looks at the swing, outcome, and reactions."If it's a home game, and if it's a White Sox home run, my philosophy is going to change to the point where we are just going to stay live and cover the energy in the ballpark, the high-fives in the dugout," he said. "Because even if I get into a replay the second he crosses home plate, which I don't really want to do, I want to at least milk that a little bit. "The replay sequences I've done in the past would have to be dramatically cut down. At most that's a swing, ball out, and one reaction. And even that would be tough now with our super-slow-mo camera."I'm very interested in what I figure out. Because talking to you right now, I haven't even figured out exactly what I want to do. And then there's the other (replay types) that happen between pitches that aren't home runs."A look inside a NESN production truck. Boston Globe / Getty ImagesWithers isn't shy about experimenting, but he faces a clear constraint to work around. The cardinal sin of a baseball broadcast is missing a pitch, he said.This spring, they've begun to try more double-box replays, where most of the screen remains on the live action and replays appear in a smaller second box. They even branded the replay box "Steve's Replay Corner." (They're not sure if that graphic and branding will stick.)"I'm trying to watch a lot of spring training games and see what everyone else is doing," Withers said. "There was an instance in a Yankees-Toronto spring training game where there was a great running lead by the runner, who took off and stole second. They went into that replay look, and came out, and the pitcher was already halfway through his delivery - and the runner was halfway to third base (on another steal attempt). So that made me think, 'Should we stay live there?' But I also thought it was an important replay to show."He thinks the double-box setup may be the new normal for replay. "I think we could be onto something," he said.Drama: A lost art?One piece of visual evidence pitch-clock haters keep citing is the production of Bryce Harper's home run in the NLCS last fall, the shot that powered the Phillies to the World Series.During the lulls between those high-leverage pitches, Fox cameras were able to capture the scene in full: Harper staring at his bat, then refocusing on the pitcher; the anxious crowd shots; pacing in each dugout. Tension was built through multiple cameras and production sequencing during the seven-pitch, four-minute plate appearance.But such productions will no longer be possible."It's going to be tough to build the drama. That's been another concern of mine," Withers said. "I don't think we'll know until we get into a late-game situation. But there's no question that (the pace) is against us. It's just not going to be feasible to get that tight shot of Bryce Harper's face, tight shot of the pitcher, then the praying hands in the stands, then the runner at second who is the game-winning run, and then get back to camera No. 4 for the pitch."Sure, you can do it quicker, but just speeding up that sequence kills some of the drama. Do we have to lose one of our shots? Yes. I feel for the great directors out there who find all those awesome moments and tell those amazing stories when the game is tight. The simple matter of fact is those sequences just got shorter. You are going to have to pick the absolute best shots. You've probably lost two or three of the ones you're used to doing in a normal sequence."As a narrator of these dramatic moments, Benetti is thinking about his role, too."I was thinking about the NBA Finals. Somebody hits a big three, the coach calls a timeout, and that's a place where you get all the drama of the arena," Benetti said. "I know some (MLB) players have suggested, 'Well, what if the pitch clock were longer in the eighth or ninth innings, or (we) didn't have it at all in the eighth or ninth innings.' I've thought: What if you just had a couple more timeouts? That would solve all of the drama issues, I feel. Batters, they use them. Regardless, whatever the rules are, there is drama in the ballpark."I know the changes are to make sure more people are interested in baseball so there's going to be the cost-benefit analysis of, 'Yeah, it might be something where we lose a little bit of this,' but I also think there are going to be answers. That's where I lean. There will be new answers."ClockworkTV crews are still figuring out how to best incorporate the pitch clock itself into broadcasts. In the first three White Sox broadcasts this spring, Withers was asked to handle the clock differently.In the first game, MLB asked broadcasters to not show the clock until seven seconds remained. NBC pushed back and showed it at 15 seconds in the second game."Then our new edict was 10 seconds," Withers said of Wednesday's telecast. Steph Chambers / Getty ImagesWithers said MLB doesn't want the clock to be "this front-of-the-show-type thing." Some broadcasts have shown the actual digital clock behind home plate. Others have incorporated the countdown within their score graphics."We're still trying to figure it out," Withers said. "That's what spring training is for."The unknownBenetti knows there will be complaints no matter what broadcasts look and sound like early this season."Because Twitter exists, there will be people with grievances," he said.But that's always been the case with anything new and he's excited to experiment. He cited Fox's pioneering of persistent score graphics in the 1990s."People hated it at first, but now you cannot live without it on the screen," he said.He also noted another Fox innovation: the glowing hockey puck, which never caught on among NHL fans.There will be trial and error."The thing I keep coming back to is there are people in the truck who take a very high level of pride in documenting the drama of a sporting event. It's their entire livelihood," Benetti said. "I know (Withers) lives and breathes it. They are going to find a way. I don't know what it will look like. It might be better, it might be worse for a while for people. There are going to be hits, there are going to be misses, but you have to innovate. Someone is going to land on, 'We needed this the whole time.'"A self-described TV nerd, Benetti watched some Stone and Harry Caray broadcasts from the 1980s and early 1990s on YouTube this offseason, games that had a pace more like what we're expecting this season."I do think you can hear in Harry and Steve their level of comfort with the pace of the game," Benetti said. "That was just how it was played." "It's a little bit like that flip-book that shows a president after he's been in office for eight years and how gray he got. Day to day, you cannot see it, but you see it at some point. We got to a threshold level where we just kind of basked in the amount of time we had and we used it how we used it. I think we'll all adapt."What they all agree on: baseball needed this change."How I sum up the (pace issue) is like this: It was taking too long for nothing to happen," Sciambi said. "That's what baseball is when it is at its worst. And when it's at its best, it's as spectacular a sport that's ever been created."Withers said three friends from his fantasy football league reached out to him and said they're more interested in baseball this spring. ESPN's Ben Cafardo reported the network just had its most-watched spring training game since 2016."I think it's going to make the game, and also watching baseball on television, a beautiful sport," Withers said. "It is already a beautiful sport. But I think it's going to make it crisp. I think (in past seasons) people, after a couple hours, after two-and-a-half hours and it's the sixth inning, people just change the channel. So what it does now, there's so much more action, there's a pitch every 15 seconds, there's less time for people to think about changing the channel."ESPN is scheduled to broadcast the White Sox season opener in Houston, so Withers and Benetti will have to wait until the second game of the season to fully enter this new era of broadcasting.Benetti has plans for his Opening Day off day in Houston."I am going to watch literally all of the broadcasts," Benetti said. "We all have this comfort of what baseball on TV was. What is it going to look like from a totally fresh perspective?"Benetti says he's a "big puzzle guy." He loves the clock in part because it seems likely to draw more new fans in, and draw lost fans back to the game. He also loves it for professional reasons: it's a new problem to solve."I love the idea that we're challenged into doing something else, something different, something with a new rhythm and cadence," Benetti said. What will that look like?"I don't know," Benetti said. "But that's the fun of it."Travis Sawchik is theScore's senior baseball writer.



                      Different networks will try different things to see what people like the most, but I wonder what will be the one that sticks.

                      I wouldn't mind the compromise of no clock on TV until it gets down to those final few seconds (aka the time where batters must be ready, all the way until the pitcher pitches). But at the same time, make the clock look good and not sticking out in a bad way.

                      And from a commentators perspective, outside of the fact that it's just a matter of getting use to change, I don't see how they won't mind a shorter/faster game. You don't need to fill as much of the broadcast with random topics for the sake of talking. And networks don't need to show 10 replays an inning because nothing's happening between pitches. Hopefully this doesn't lead to them going to random crowd shots or replays which cause viewers to miss more pitches. Seems to happen a few times every game where you miss a pitch because they were too busy showing some random fan eating popcorn in the stands, or a replay of where a foul ball landed.
                      My honest feeling on it is I'd just like to see it incorporated that same way they have the play clock for football. We all know it's there now, put it as part of the ticker and just have it always be there. I feel it would be more of a distraction to the game if it keeps popping up randomly on the screen as it gets low.

                      Just put it up and let it run, let us focus on the game and if we want to watch the clock we can.
                      Golf: Bubba
                      MLB: Braves
                      Nascar: Smoke
                      NBA: Heat
                      NCAA: Florida & Miss State
                      NFL: Whichever team currently has the most of my favorite college players
                      NHL: Caps
                      Tennis: The Joker & Sloane Stevens
                      WWE: Dean Ambrose
                      Misc: Anybody wearing a Team USA jersey

                      Comment

                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47473

                        #18551
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Amoo316
                        My honest feeling on it is I'd just like to see it incorporated that same way they have the play clock for football. We all know it's there now, put it as part of the ticker and just have it always be there. I feel it would be more of a distraction to the game if it keeps popping up randomly on the screen as it gets low.

                        Just put it up and let it run, let us focus on the game and if we want to watch the clock we can.
                        That's what I was thinking before too. If it's just integrated into the scorebug, there's no problem.

                        And then just do what we see for NBA/NFL where the clock might turn red if it's about to expire.

                        Comment

                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42515

                          #18552
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by Majingir
                          That's what I was thinking before too. If it's just integrated into the scorebug, there's no problem.

                          And then just do what we see for NBA/NFL where the clock might turn red if it's about to expire.
                          Dislike this thought so much, but this is of course my own opinion.

                          I get if ESPN does it, but I'm hoping NBC Sports is above this personally. My eye has been drawn to it during Spring Training, and I absolutely resent its inclusion. Not the clock itself, but the visual reminder.

                          Again, pitchers and hitters will be on time unless they're not, and we'll understand it. We don't have to be reminded in a game whose regulation play is not decided on a clock itself.
                          Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

                          Comment

                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52707

                            #18553
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            I didn't think that strike 2 call was that egregious, really. Is it a ball? Oh yes. Bad call? Shouldn't happen. It's what happens afterwards that's terrible, this includes though the whiny ballerina batter doing jump-spins over that call.

                            No excuse for that strike three and departure, but I'm guessing if he wasn't shown up the way he was he wouldn't have done that. The previous reaction made him make up his mind. Umpires however must leave emotion at the door.

                            I don’t care what the batter did. If he’s that offended by what the batter did after strike two call, then toss him from the game.

                            You can’t call that pitch (3rd strike) a strike at any point of the game, period.


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                            Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

                            Comment

                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42515

                              #18554
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              I don’t care what the batter did. If he’s that offended by what the batter did after strike two call, then toss him from the game.

                              You can’t call that pitch (3rd strike) a strike at any point of the game, period.


                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                              I know, and I agree. I'm saying what he did in response to the strike two call was worse than the call itself.

                              This video isn't about two terrible calls, it's about one terrible call and was made on the sole basis of what the batter did in response to the other call. Not forgiving him and not condoning it. This was about that one call alone though.
                              Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

                              Comment

                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52707

                                #18555
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                I know, and I agree. I'm saying what he did in response to the strike two call was worse than the call itself.

                                This video isn't about two terrible calls, it's about one terrible call and was made on the sole basis of what the batter did in response to the other call. Not forgiving him and not condoning it. This was about that one call alone though.

                                No you’re justifying a erroneous strike 3 call because you don’t like what the hitter did in response to the called strike two.

                                This video is solely about an umpire who instead of handing the situation with any sort of character, decided instead to show up a 18-22 year old kid, by punching him out on bull**** call and then hurrying of the field.


                                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                                Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

                                Comment

                                Working...