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  • ShowTyme15
    LADetermined
    • Jan 2004
    • 11853

    #256
    Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

    Report: Dodgers and Rays are in serious trade discussions. Deal may include Evan Longoria.

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    • Bard
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      • Oct 2010
      • 7803

      #257
      Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

      Originally posted by ShowTyme15
      Report: Dodgers and Rays are in serious trade discussions. Deal may include Evan Longoria.
      Wonder who would be in this deal, if Turner isn't would assume he would be shipped off for a RP or SP. But would think even with Longoria one of the Rays arms are coming as well.
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      • ShowTyme15
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        • Jan 2004
        • 11853

        #258
        Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

        Originally posted by Bard
        Wonder who would be in this deal, if Turner isn't would assume he would be shipped off for a RP or SP. But would think even with Longoria one of the Rays arms are coming as well.
        Odorizzi, Moore, Ramirez, Smyly, maybe Archer as an outside shot as one of the arms coming back. EL might be a longshot, but Logan Forsythe is also being kicked around.
        Last edited by ShowTyme15; 07-18-2016, 07:31 PM.

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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #259
          Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

          Originally posted by Jr.
          I'd be okay with that. Get Trevor Cahill and Clayton Richard off the roster. Keep Almora in CF, sign Dexter long-term after the season to take over LF. Maybe try Gleybar Torres in the OF, too, if he's not included. Or put Baez at 3B and Bryant in the OF full-time.
          I'd rather not part with Schwarber and Eloy both AND Soler just in the name of bullpen arms. If we can sneak in Schwarber-light (Vogelbach) or Schwarber-heavy, as the case may actually be, instead of Schwarber then I'm on board. Or if we have Betances in there somehow. Probably Brett Gardner as well

          Counterpoint. Essentially doing a bullpen transplant from the Yankees to the Cubs is a very appealing thought.

          Knowing Theo/Hoyer and how they love their old Red Sox players, I could see then getting a heavily-subsidized Jacoby Ellsbury in there as well as bullpen guys.

          Let's just say with the recent history of working together (Castro-Warren deal) and the obvious matches all along the rosters, I'd be surprised if there weren't at least one Cubs-Yankees deal.
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          • Jr.
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            • Feb 2003
            • 19171

            #260
            Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
            I'd rather not part with Schwarber and Eloy both AND Soler just in the name of bullpen arms. If we can sneak in Schwarber-light (Vogelbach) or Schwarber-heavy, as the case may actually be, instead of Schwarber then I'm on board. Or if we have Betances in there somehow. Probably Brett Gardner as well

            Counterpoint. Essentially doing a bullpen transplant from the Yankees to the Cubs is a very appealing thought.

            Knowing Theo/Hoyer and how they love their old Red Sox players, I could see then getting a heavily-subsidized Jacoby Ellsbury in there as well as bullpen guys.

            Let's just say with the recent history of working together (Castro-Warren deal) and the obvious matches all along the rosters, I'd be surprised if there weren't at least one Cubs-Yankees deal.
            I see your point, but I'm still okay with getting rid of all of them. Jimenez is at least 2 more years away. Schwarber is great but he's a DH and will be an issue in the OF for years to come. I like Soler more than most Cubs fans probably, and he's actually the guy I'd least like to get rid of, but I don't know if there's room for him anymore with how Baez has been playing. Billy McKinney is still around, too. At some point, some of these guys have to move as there's just no room for them all.

            If Betances can be put in there, I'm all aboard. I'd rather stay away from Gardner and Ellsbury.
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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #261
              Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

              Originally posted by Jr.
              I see your point, but I'm still okay with getting rid of all of them. Jimenez is at least 2 more years away. Schwarber is great but he's a DH and will be an issue in the OF for years to come. I like Soler more than most Cubs fans probably, and he's actually the guy I'd least like to get rid of, but I don't know if there's room for him anymore with how Baez has been playing. Billy McKinney is still around, too. At some point, some of these guys have to move as there's just no room for them all.

              If Betances can be put in there, I'm all aboard. I'd rather stay away from Gardner and Ellsbury.
              For these suggested guys, it all depends on how much salary we could get the Yankees to eat. If we can get Ellsbury for 30% of the cost (~1/3 of $90MM over 5 years) or Gardner for half the price (1/2 of $26MM over 2 years), I think that's a good addition. Adding one of those guys would lock down LF, which has been a revolving door of injured Soler, injured Schwarber, Bryant out of position, Szczur (better as a bench bat/sub), Coghlan, Contreras out of position. It's not a priority whatsoever, but if that can be tacked on I see it as a potentially good thing.


              EDIT: As to how I see Eloy, Soler, and Schwarber. I agree that Kyle's ultimate calling is a top DH in the AL, but I think we keep him, let him smack some homers and deal him when he's about to get expensive. I've moved on from Soler. He reminds me of [insert any previous inconsistent Cubs player that never lived up to his potential here]. Eloy Jimenez was the #1 ranked IFA in the year the Cubs gave him a huge bonus and he's just starting to tap into that now. It might be a mistake to deal this kid (who could end up being the Jorge Soler we thought we'd get out of Jorge Soler). Jimenez is laying waste to A ball and is likely to get to A+ before too much longer.
              Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 07-18-2016, 07:54 PM.
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              • CBoller1331
                It Appears I Blue Myself
                • Dec 2013
                • 3082

                #262
                Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                If we include Schwarber for a deal involving relievers (as dominant as they may be) I might not ever watch baseball again.
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                • Bard
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 7803

                  #263
                  Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                  Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                  Odorizzi, Moore, Ramirez, Smyly, maybe Archer as an outside shot as one of the arms coming back. EL might be a longshot, but Logan Forsythe is also being kicked around.
                  Imagine Archer and Longoria heading over to LA. Massive return for Tampa though.
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                  • WaitTilNextYear
                    Go Cubs Go
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16830

                    #264
                    Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                    Originally posted by Bard
                    Imagine Archer and Longoria heading over to LA. Massive return for Tampa though.
                    Just spitballing here, but that would cost Urias + De Leon + Bellinger + a little bit more? It would fit LA like a glove though and make them instant co-contenders with the Cubs/Giants/Nats for NL supremacy.
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                    • Bard
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 7803

                      #265
                      Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                      Just spitballing here, but that would cost Urias + De Leon + Bellinger + a little bit more? It would fit LA like a glove though and make them instant co-contenders with the Cubs/Giants/Nats for NL supremacy.
                      That'd be a great deal for baseball. A top phenom Urias heading to Tampa, and two big names like Longoria and Archer in LA. I would personally love that as a baseball fan.
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                      • WaitTilNextYear
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                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #266
                        Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                        Originally posted by Bard
                        That'd be a great deal for baseball. A top phenom Urias heading to Tampa, and two big names like Longoria and Archer in LA. I would personally love that as a baseball fan.
                        Yeah and there's the Friedman angle. Those were his players in Tampa. I'm sure he still covets them, much like Theo always goes after former Red Stockings.
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                        • Godgers12
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                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2265

                          #267
                          Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                          Originally posted by CBoller1331
                          If we include Schwarber for a deal involving relievers (as dominant as they may be) I might not ever watch baseball again.
                          You have Contrares too, so Schwarber should be expendable.
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                          • redsox4evur
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                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #268
                            2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                            Yeah and there's the Friedman angle. Those were his players in Tampa. I'm sure he still covets them, much like Theo always goes after former Red Stockings.

                            Especially his love child Anthony Rizzo. Dude traded for him twice.
                            Literally seconds after I posted this I remembered that was Hoyer not Theo but **** it.

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                            • WaitTilNextYear
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                              • Mar 2013
                              • 16830

                              #269
                              Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                              Originally posted by Godgers12
                              You have Contrares too, so Schwarber should be expendable.
                              Expendable and Schwarber don't belong in the same sentence. Ever. Aside from that, Schwarber wasn't even playing catcher anymore, so....not really sure of your point there.

                              Originally posted by redsox4evur
                              Especially his love child Anthony Rizzo. Dude traded for him twice.
                              Literally seconds after I posted this I remembered that was Hoyer not Theo but **** it.

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                              Hoyer counts as an extension of Theo. Like a 3rd pinkie finger or something.
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                              • redsox4evur
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #270
                                Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

                                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                                Expendable and Schwarber don't belong in the same sentence. Ever. Aside from that, Schwarber wasn't even playing catcher anymore, so....not really sure of your point there.



                                Hoyer counts as an extension of Theo. Like a 3rd pinkie finger or something.
                                Yea that was my thought when I first posted it. Like they are the same guy, who am I kidding.

                                Also Schwarber isn't expendable...Schwarber and expendable can be in the same sentence.
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