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  • TheTruth916
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    #406
    Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

    Originally posted by Scottd
    Come on, even if he said that, then that is sad, because he should snap out of it when he sees other guys hitting them out. If it is all in his head, he need to go to a shrink. What is causing him for hitting them out, did he change his swing to hit line drives? Fill me in.
    Believe me for the last 3 years, that has been irritating to see other teams come into Petco and hit. Then the Padres just don't hit there...that is frustrating. Yes it is sad and you would think they would snap out of it, but 3 years later they still haven't. Giles hasn't changed his swing at all...the only thing different is that he's became a #2 hitter since arriving at Petco. He would rather walk than drive in runs. Giles leaves more men on base in scoring position than I have ever seen.
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    • bkrich83
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      #407
      Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

      Originally posted by TheTruth916
      Are you forgetting that for the last 3 years Petco Park has been inside the heads of the players? Its been talked about in the papers, on tv. Do you not understand what Petco Itis is?

      Its "PADRES" that can't hit in there ball park not outsiders.




      It's called Petco Itis. He is also a player that has said it and hes the reason why they brought in the right centerfield wall to move in from 411 to 402
      It's really called lack of spending. Team doesn't want to get legit middle of the order type of players, when it can get the Giles, Piazza, Castilla kind. Guys past their prime, with recognizable names, who they can sign at a discount.

      But continue to make exuses for the Padres front office complete lack of putting a quality team on the field.
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      • Scottdau
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        #408
        Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

        Originally posted by TheTruth916
        Believe me for the last 3 years, that has been irritating to see other teams come into Petco and hit. Then the Padres just don't hit there...that is frustrating. Yes it is sad and you would think they would snap out of it, but 3 years later they still haven't. Giles hasn't changed his swing at all...the only thing different is that he's became a #2 hitter since arriving at Petco. He would rather walk than drive in runs. Giles leaves more men on base in scoring position than I have ever seen.
        well, I am not a Dr., but I play one on the net lol. Well maybe it is talent. Maybe he is going down. Or jealous of his little brother! Well the number 2 guy is suppose to get on base any way they can, maybe he is piss and want to be number 3 or 4. I believe after awhile as player you have to quit blaming the Park, no matter how true it is. And just start hitting.

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        • bkrich83
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          #409
          Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

          Originally posted by TheTruth916
          Are you forgetting that for the last 3 years Petco Park has been inside the heads of the players? Its been talked about in the papers, on tv. Do you not understand what Petco Itis is?

          Its "PADRES" that can't hit in there ball park not outsiders.




          It's called Petco Itis. He is also a player that has said it and hes the reason why they brought in the right centerfield wall to move in from 411 to 402
          Yeah I understand it, and I think it's bull**** and an excuse. Any more excuses for this ****ty team?
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          • Scottdau
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            #410
            Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            It's really called lack of spending. Team doesn't want to get legit middle of the order type of players, when it can get the Giles, Piazza, Castilla kind. Guys past their prime, with recognizable names, who they can sign at a discount.

            But continue to make exuses for the Padres front office complete lack of putting a quality team on the field.

            Yeah I must admit this lineup doesn't really scare me.

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            • TheTruth916
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              #411
              Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

              Originally posted by bkrich83
              Yeah I understand it, and I think it's bull**** and an excuse. Any more excuses for this ****ty team?
              It's not a excuse from me, Last time I checked I am not giving them any excuse..they are the ones supplying the excuse themselves and not I.

              Originally posted by Scottd
              well, I am not a Dr., but I play one on the net lol. Well maybe it is talent. Maybe he is going down. Or jealous of his little brother! Well the number 2 guy is suppose to get on base any way they can, maybe he is piss and want to be number 3 or 4. I believe after awhile as player you have to quit blaming the Park, no matter how true it is. And just start hitting.
              Giles is a #3 Hitter, but acts like a #2 Hitter.
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              • bkrich83
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                #412
                Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                Originally posted by TheTruth916
                It's not a excuse from me, Last time I checked I am not giving them any excuse..they are the ones supplying the excuse themselves and not I.
                Who's this they? The media? If the players can't hit here, then it's time to get some that can. Simple as that. No more screwing around. I Am sick and tired of this team being a complete joke. TIred of fans of opposing teams heckling us as we leave the park, and there's nothing you can say back, because their team just spanked us. I am sick of hoping for a mediocre record. 25 years is enough for me.

                Originally posted by TheTruth916
                Giles is a #3 Hitter, but acts like a #2 Hitter.
                Then that makes him a 2 hitter, and worthless to us in the middle of the lineup.
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                • Scottdau
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                  #413
                  Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                  Originally posted by TheTruth916
                  It's not a excuse from me, Last time I checked I am not giving them any excuse..they are the ones supplying the excuse themselves and not I.



                  Giles is a #3 Hitter, but acts like a #2 Hitter.
                  Got you!

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                  • TheTruth916
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                    #414
                    Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Who's this they? The media? If the players can't hit here, then it's time to get some that can. Simple as that. No more screwing around. I Am sick and tired of this team being a complete joke. TIred of fans of opposing teams heckling us as we leave the park, and there's nothing you can say back, because their team just spanked us. I am sick of hoping for a mediocre record. 25 years is enough for me.
                    Media...Radio, TV, Newpapers, Players themselves. Exactly it's time to get players in there that is not afraid of this park, that is why I was Ok with the Padres going after a guy like Joey Gathright who can hit the gaps. I don't think I will ever understand why the Padre Players for 3 years have not adjusted to this park accordinly.

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Then that makes him a 2 hitter, and worthless to us in the middle of the lineup.
                    Exactly, but he's still batting #3 for the Padres. When he comes up with runners in scoring position he does 1 of two things it seems like and that is either walk or pop out.
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                    • BatsareBugs
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                      #415
                      Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                      Originally posted by Scottd
                      Come on, even if he said that, then that is sad, because he should snap out of it when he sees other guys hitting them out. If it is all in his head, he need to go to a shrink. What is causing him for hitting them out, did he change his swing to hit line drives? Fill me in.
                      Giles stopped trying to crush the ball everytime at the plate midway through 2004 because 85% of the crushed baseballs towards RCF just died right on the warning track. He changed his approach to just hitting instead of looking for the jackpot all the time... something both Nevin and Klesko haven't done.

                      I believe the reason why other teams have no problem hitting them year is because they don't play 81 games here seeing their crushed balls that would be home runs elsewhere just die in the gaps for outs on a daily basis.

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                      • bkrich83
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                        #416
                        Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                        Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld

                        I believe the reason why other teams have no problem hitting them year is because they don't play 81 games here seeing their crushed balls that would be home runs elsewhere just die in the gaps for outs on a daily basis.
                        I believe it's because most other teams simply have better hitters than we do.
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                        • BatsareBugs
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                          #417
                          Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          I believe it's because most other teams simply have better hitters than we do.
                          And you saw the Rockies game and what you said about that team doesn't back up your statement...

                          But regardless I agree with you on that as well. The Cubs a couple of years ago when Sosa was still decent and when they Alou they pounded eight home runs in a span of three games... EIGHT. The Devil Rays were even able to take advantage of this ballpark. The fault here relies on poor positional scouting by Towers... especially when he says he knew how the ballpark was going to play.

                          Giles is a good player, but there's no doubt in my mind the Padres would have been a better team if they had held off on the trade back in 2003 and have gone after Guerrero, who at the time was looking for a contract that would cost slightly a little more than Giles...

                          Who would you rather have had going into 04 now that we know how Petco Park plays like? Giles and Payton roaming in CF and RF and Ismael Valdez as the fifth starter or Guerrero and Bay in CF and RF and Oliver Perez as the fifth starter.

                          Guerrero would be the perfect guy in RF... no disrespect to Giles because I still would like him in my lineup if he was on my team (and would rather have him in LF than the broken down Ryan Klesko those two years), but Vladimir's power wouldn't be diminished by Petco Park IMO and Bay would benefit from Petco Park (I hear he's lost some home runs at PNC Park because of LF).

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                          • bkrich83
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                            #418
                            Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                            Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                            And you saw the Rockies game and what you said about that team doesn't back up your statement...

                            But regardless I agree with you on that as well. The Cubs a couple of years ago when Sosa was still decent and when they Alou they pounded eight home runs in a span of three games... EIGHT. The Devil Rays were even able to take advantage of this ballpark. The fault here relies on poor positional scouting by Towers... especially when he says he knew how the ballpark was going to play.

                            Giles is a good player, but there's no doubt in my mind the Padres would have been a better team if they had held off on the trade back in 2003 and have gone after Guerrero, who at the time was looking for a contract that would cost slightly a little more than Giles...

                            Who would you rather have had going into 04 now that we know how Petco Park plays like? Giles and Payton roaming in CF and RF and Ismael Valdez as the fifth starter or Guerrero and Bay in CF and RF and Oliver Perez as the fifth starter.

                            Guerrero would be the perfect guy in RF... no disrespect to Giles because I still would like him in my lineup if he was on my team (and would rather have him in LF than the broken down Ryan Klesko those two years), but Vladimir's power wouldn't be diminished by Petco Park IMO and Bay would benefit from Petco Park (I hear he's lost some home runs at PNC Park because of LF).
                            Not really, as bad as the Rockies lineup is, it's still better than ours.

                            They had no intention of ever going after Vlad though. The Angels simply would have out bid the Padres. Their best chance was to go after players by trade, because if it ever came down to a bidding war,they simply won't match.

                            Looking back on that trade, even if you take Perez out of the equation, I sure as hell would rather have Jason Bay in the outfield over Giles. Or any one of our other outfielders. I'd be hard pressed to find a single every day player on this roster I would rather have than Jason Bay.

                            I was disappointed however. The rumor that kept coming out of SD was that the Padres were interested in making a move to get Al Soriano.He's hitting the ball out of RFK, and if he can hit bombs there,he can hit bombs here. Not to mention he can run and is a lifetime .281 hitter. There really isn't any position player I'd rather have than him either.

                            The Padres are the Padres for a reason, tight pursestrings and lack of talent and vision in the FO.
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                            • bkrich83
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                              #419
                              Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                              Nady just cruched a ball to LC over the Padres bullpen.

                              Yup, we're much better off without him.
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                              • bkrich83
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                                #420
                                Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

                                Castro takes Yound deep for back to back.

                                ****in' A, everyone hits bombs here but the Padres.
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