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  • DieHardYankee26
    BING BONG
    • Feb 2008
    • 10178

    #976
    Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

    I cant bring myself to believe it but the only answer I can come up with is they thought the game was already over at 3-0 (which I also think, but you can't manage that way). Nate Eovaldi... Don't even have anything to say. How we struggle so badly against this dude is beyond me, but I think Jets mentioned something in the DS thread about having problems with their velocity in game 1, seems like a combination of that and being so intent on working the count and making the pitcher work that you just watch good pitches go by. He doesn't nibble, get Eovaldi out there taking 2 pitches to start the AB and you're down 0-2. It's impossible to know what they're discussing as a team obviously, but it just doesn't seem like we're prepared the way I'd expect.
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    • CMH
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      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #977
      Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

      Boone managed as if he didn't want to waste his good bullpen arms because of Game 4 the next night.



      A part of me can understand that, especially with Severino on the mound. You hope as a manager you can get 5 out of your freaking ace. It backfired because Severino has been a mess since July. I don't know if there's a solution for Boone.


      If he turns to his pen too early and it's 3-0 throughout the game, then he HAS to use Betances, Britton and Robertson in the 6-7-8. Has to because the game is within reach.


      But what does that mean for Game 4 when you have CC on the mound? I know CC is the big vet but if you're the Yankees, what do you think is more likely? 5 out of Severino or 5 out of CC? You likely think it's the former. You basically want CC to just keep things close. So you don't want to burn your bullpen in Game 3 and then have to turn to the turnstile that we saw last night in a pivotal Game 4.


      I don't think there was a good option for Boone. He's either the smart manager last night that pulls Severino after 3 and the Yankees lose 3-1 or 3-2 or something and the bad manager when he has no rested options for CC after 4 innings. Or he's the fool last night that tried to squeeze more innings out of his ace that hopefully looks smart for saving his quality bullpen arms for Game 4.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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      • DieHardYankee26
        BING BONG
        • Feb 2008
        • 10178

        #978
        Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

        Definitely agree that having CC tonight was a big factor. I wasn't sure if we had the right recipe to win it all with Sevy being an absolute monster as far as SP depth and now that he's fallen off you got Tanaka and He Who Must Not Be Named. For all the bullpen pieces we've acquired (and some of them aren't as reliable as others) we spent the whole season throwing **** at the wall as far as the rotation went. I don't even think they'd have preferred to go with Sevy for this game but they realize dude is shot and didn't want to risk him pitching the potential series finale.

        *** **** the Mets.
        Originally posted by G Perico
        If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
        I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
        In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
        The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #979
          Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

          The Yankees absolutely need to figure out the rotation for 2019. I don't care about Machado or Harper. There is enough offense on this team.


          That money needs to go toward the top of the rotation. They cannot be in a position where every starter is a question mark ALL SEASON.


          We can joke about Price, Sale being bad in the post-season but it's not like Boston didn't know what they were getting from them all year. You give the Yankeees Sale, Price, Porcello, Eovaldi with their lineup and I don't worry about this series.


          Imagine Boston had Severino, Tanaka, CC and Happ. We'd be calling it the breeze the lineup needed before facing the Houston monster.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • DamnYanks2
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 20794

            #980
            Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

            I have alot of things to say. But all I'm gonna say is that managing last night. Is a fireable offense. I mean what was he doing?

            I like Boone. But man that was worse then Joe in the Cleveland series last year. I don't understand these managers sometimes man. Severino had nothing. It was apparent. You have an amazing bullpen. Then you go to Lynn. What the ****.

            Do better.

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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #981
              Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

              Nothing was worse than Joe last year:

              1) The players are adamant that the ball made contact with the bat.

              2) The replay clearly showed the ball hit the bat.

              3) You could hear the ball hit the bat.

              4) This isn't the NFL where we were going to lose a timeout, challenging in baseball has no consequence.

              And 5) when asked why he didn't want to challenge the play that almost buried us, he said it was because he didn't want to take his pitcher out of rhthym...the pitcher who had just loaded the bases on a HBP.

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              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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              • NYJets
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 18637

                #982
                Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                So obviously pitching needs to be improved....

                Offensively, year after year we fail to hit in the clutch. Our last couple playoff teams before the youth movement it was blamed on old, unathletic, homerun or nothing players. Now though..is the stadium making guys change their approach? Do we need to just remember its a lot of young guys, guys like Torres and Andujar best is still to come? Just a small sample size? Boston's pitching too good? Or is there something we really need to change about the dynamic of this lineup?
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                • DamnYanks2
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 20794

                  #983
                  Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                  Originally posted by NYJets
                  So obviously pitching needs to be improved....

                  Offensively, year after year we fail to hit in the clutch. Our last couple playoff teams before the youth movement it was blamed on old, unathletic, homerun or nothing players. Now though..is the stadium making guys change their approach? Do we need to just remember its a lot of young guys, guys like Torres and Andujar best is still to come? Just a small sample size? Boston's pitching too good? Or is there something we really need to change about the dynamic of this lineup?
                  Feels like to me everyone looks to Judge. He sets the tone even though he is so young himself.

                  If he doesn't get things rolling in crucial moments. Seems like they sputter. Just feels that way.

                  Ugh.. definitely need pitching. But I hate to say this but not sure Boone is the man for this job. Sad part is I like him personally. Joe wasnt ever my favorite.

                  But It feels wrong losing with this much talent in this way. Especially after the fight they had last year.

                  Last year even though it hurt. It felt like they would come back with a vengeance and it didn't happen.

                  I'm pretty disappointed.





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                  • DieHardYankee26
                    BING BONG
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 10178

                    #984
                    Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                    Originally posted by NYJets
                    So obviously pitching needs to be improved....

                    Offensively, year after year we fail to hit in the clutch. Our last couple playoff teams before the youth movement it was blamed on old, unathletic, homerun or nothing players. Now though..is the stadium making guys change their approach? Do we need to just remember its a lot of young guys, guys like Torres and Andujar best is still to come? Just a small sample size? Boston's pitching too good? Or is there something we really need to change about the dynamic of this lineup?
                    It's gotta be an approach thing right? Seems like every hitter we get has their average drop 30 points and start aiming for the short porch. Teixeira was the guy that really killed me, felt like he went from a 300 hitter to a guy who I almost didn't even want to see come to the plate to ground into the shift.

                    I don't have the inside stuff the team does obviously, but from the outside looking in I wonder if they've gone too heavy in the analytics route? Reason I say that is well, for one, in Boone's post game pressers he kept talking about the plan. They fully intended on getting 3 from CC and 6 from the bullpen. Ignoring the fact that it's a mess that your plan is to only get 3 innings from your starting pitcher (and the bigger mess that we barely got that), I don't think he was going to make a move unless it got out of hand. Similar to Game 3 where he said he was waiting for Lynn to face the top of the order. At some point its like, dude just get him out of the game, match ups be damned, he just doesn't have it.

                    I love advanced stats as much if not more than the next guy but like people always say, nobody cares about single game WAR. Those philosophies might just break down in the postseason if you adhere to them too strongly.

                    We were shaky in areas we couldn't afford to be. CMH said it best, they were just better. Holt in the cycle game had a snag where he scooped a bad hop up and got the lead out at second. It's just little stuff like that. We weren't terrible but DiDi is the only infielder I felt was a real plus out there. I said it before the series, they can single you to death. Home runs are great when they're being hit, but when they're not you look crazy getting a leadoff double, moving him with a fly ball, and then 2 strikeouts.

                    I don't want to be too "human element" but I think what I want to see from the Yankees is putting pressure consistently on the opponent. On the basepaths, at the plate not only with taking close pitches but being sure to give the green light on bad ones (we watch way too many hanging breaking balls). I feel like the bullpen is built on that, fireballers putting the opposing lineup on their heels, I'd like to see more of that elsewhere. Just up the variance, make them make a play.

                    I'm curious to see what the plan is with Stanton. Harold Reynolds mentioned you can't have this guy DH, he's too young. I don't necessarily feel that way, but it's interesting nonetheless. Do they bring back one of Gardy/Cutch or do we go with Judge Stanton on the corners after a full offseason of training? What do we do about Andujar's insistence on throwing the ball sidearm into the dugout? Can Gary get his blocking together? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z.
                    Originally posted by G Perico
                    If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                    I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                    In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                    The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                    • Qdiddy
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 532

                      #985
                      Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                      Disappointing end to an otherwise really good season. We won 100 games which in most years wins the division. And was an improvement on last year so this team is still trending up.

                      Starting pitching definitely needs to be addressed. I think it’s time to move a few prospects to get a solid proven arm like a Bumgarner for example, especially if they do sign Machado then Andujar might be expendable at that point.

                      A 1B is a must I say it’s Voits job to lose going into Spring, trying to move Bird in a package for a SP, I think it’s best at this point both parties move on. Other then that most spots are pretty set, Gary I believe will be fine at catcher, pen should remain solid outfield is fine with a rotation out there. I think Gardy gets one more year and platoons with Frazier in left to see if he is legit or not, other option is keep gardy and move Frazier and make Stanton full time LF with gardy swapping out few days a week to keep both fresh.

                      I like this team moving forward so long as they can get some SP help, time for cash to move some of those gems in the minors to supplement the big league team which has a very young core that can make a run long term


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                      • DieHardYankee26
                        BING BONG
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 10178

                        #986
                        Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                        You guys buy this time ****?

                        For the record, the "evidence" we got so far: 1) Ron Darling said Sevy didn't start warming up until 8 minutes before the game (Sevy and Boone both say he warmed up at normal time), 2) Gary didn't have nail polish on in the first, but did in the second, 3) B Rabbit and Cutch were both wearing sneakers instead of cleats and changed, and 4) A-Rod FaceTimed with Gary on Fox the day before the game and apparently Gary asked him when the game was.

                        I haven't really seen anything officially outside of Ron Darling (who's word means nothing to me, I don't know if he knows Sevy's usual routine or what) really get into this. With the sharks in the NY media, I find it very hard to believe such a **** up happened and it isn't plastered on every rag in the city. Seems to me if anything happened, maybe a clubhouse attendant put the wrong game time in the locker room, not like Boone sends out a group text on game day to meet at the field. Also very possible nothing happened and Ron Darling is speaking off the cuff and people who want to hate Boone will buy it because it fits what they want. Hard to say.
                        Originally posted by G Perico
                        If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                        I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                        In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                        The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                        • Rocket32
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                          • May 2016
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                          #987
                          Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                          This video from the YES Network YouTube channel is perfect. Spot on.

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                          • Qdiddy
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 532

                            #988
                            Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                            I really think it’s a lot of paralysis by analysis. The amount of numbers are a blessing and a curse. I think the great teams and managers nowadays are able to use the numbers but they don’t lose focus of what they see happening with their own eyes in live action. I think when Boone says “our plan was” well that’s great but like Mike Tyson once said, “Everyone has a great plan right until they get punched in the face”.

                            They didn’t react and make adjustments fast enough, they stuck with a plan regardless of what was actually happening, Judge led off 14x that means the guys at bottom of the lineup weren’t doing ****, mix it up, sevy and CC got hit hard early, yea they were outs at first but you could tell they didn’t have it, everyone seen that, I’m a firm believer that there should always be someone up in the pen in an elimination game.

                            Idk about the time thing but something was off as was mentioned with the wrong cleats and no finger polish etc. idk they were off this whole series with the planning and reacting aspect imo


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                            • KCowse
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                              • Jun 2017
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                              #989
                              Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                              Originally posted by Rocket32
                              This video from the YES Network YouTube channel is perfect. Spot on.



                              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORhf50q2z9w


                              Love the Michael Kay Show. But I think it is short memory to say the lack of urgency started in this series. Just look at how the team played against bad opponents the entire year. Something was wrong with the mindset of the team through the whole year. And the adrenaline boost of playing for the season at home clearly wasn’t enough to fix it.

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #990
                                Re: **The Official New York Yankees Thread**

                                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                                You guys buy this time ****?

                                For the record, the "evidence" we got so far: 1) Ron Darling said Sevy didn't start warming up until 8 minutes before the game (Sevy and Boone both say he warmed up at normal time), 2) Gary didn't have nail polish on in the first, but did in the second, 3) B Rabbit and Cutch were both wearing sneakers instead of cleats and changed, and 4) A-Rod FaceTimed with Gary on Fox the day before the game and apparently Gary asked him when the game was.

                                I haven't really seen anything officially outside of Ron Darling (who's word means nothing to me, I don't know if he knows Sevy's usual routine or what) really get into this. With the sharks in the NY media, I find it very hard to believe such a **** up happened and it isn't plastered on every rag in the city. Seems to me if anything happened, maybe a clubhouse attendant put the wrong game time in the locker room, not like Boone sends out a group text on game day to meet at the field. Also very possible nothing happened and Ron Darling is speaking off the cuff and people who want to hate Boone will buy it because it fits what they want. Hard to say.
                                The evidence is overwhelming if that's how it went down but I don't know if it's Boone's fault.

                                I don't think it's the managers job to get the time right. I could be wrong.

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                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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