**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[DamnYanks2]

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I would
Flip Andujar for those pitchers in a nano second as I agree we need one more elite arm (like most good teams lol)


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Problem is. Its slim pickings. It's really just Kluber. The Mets offseason clearly dictates they aren't rebuilding. So it would make no sense to trade Thor.

So to me it's just Kluber.

I agree Armor, andujar could be an elite hitter. His rookie year was phenomenal. The guy knows how to hit. At times he was our most consistent hitter. Improve his Plate discipline. And if he could work hard and just be a league average defender. He could be truly special.

I wouldn't even think about trading him if his defense wasnt so awful. The kid can hit.

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[DamnYanks2]

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There's much more evidence (his actual numbers) that we have no idea what Bryce will give us year to year than Manny falling off due to his attitude I think.

I'm not writing off Andujar's bat. You said he could be a HoF bat, I don't disagree. Manny already is one, and a HoF glove. It's just a no brainer to me.

God, but the first time Manny jogs to 1st base. Yankee fans. (Well, our more ignorant ones) are gonna be crying about that all season. He's just like Robby! No hustle!. All about himself.

Harper would probably be beloved here. Because he's all hustle. He'll run into a wall. He'll scream at the umps. He'll flip his hair. Yankee fans won't be able to get enough of him. Of course he has to play well.

I personally like Machado better too. But I think Harper would be the perfect fit.

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[Armor and Sword]

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And that is my primary concern about Manny. Talent is elite and undeniable.

But does he have an elite heart and attitude after he cashes in.

I am very wary of that.


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[DamnYanks2]

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And that is my primary concern about Manny. Talent is elite and undeniable.

But does he have an elite heart and attitude after he cashes in.

I am very wary of that.


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Same, I could see him cash in. Get overweight. Not have the desire to play 3rd. And it could end up being an awful contract.

That's worst case scenario.

I know what I'm getting with Harper. We could play him and Stanton at DH some. The only question is. Is it worth it? And it's not a premium position in need.

This team could use Machado and his elite defense at 3rd. But he has to buy in. They don't need him at short.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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You may have to be tuned into the Nationals to hear this stuff, but living around here you hear that same stuff about Bryce. He was just getting criticized earlier this year for not running out a double play grounder. One of my friends who's a Nats fan has been screaming about how he spent the whole year loafing in the field to protect his payday. We just didn't see him 18 times a year and have to hear about it.

[DamnYanks2]

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You may have to be tuned into the Nationals to hear this stuff, but living around here you hear that same stuff about Bryce. He was just getting criticized earlier this year for not running out a double play grounder. One of my friends who's a Nats fan has been screaming about how he spent the whole year loafing in the field to protect his payday. We just didn't see him 18 times a year and have to hear about it.

Probably tired of playing for that team. I would be. Lol.

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[JHedges2]

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I don’t want either of them, unless short contracts which of course they wouldn’t be.

Much rather invest in starting pitching.

I think every spot in the lineup hit 20 HR last year. We need pitching.


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[DamnYanks2]

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I don’t want either of them, unless short contracts which of course they wouldn’t be.

Much rather invest in starting pitching.

I think every spot in the lineup hit 20 HR last year. We need pitching.


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Well yes, one more ace is good enough for me. And a few more bullpen arms at a low cost.



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[lowpaiddonkey10]

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And that is my primary concern about Manny. Talent is elite and undeniable.

But does he have an elite heart and attitude after he cashes in.

I am very wary of that.


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I don't know about him either. The its not my money just give him what he wants crowd say pull the trigger but I think mid to long term the contract is the second coming of Tex on a larger scale.

[DamnYanks2]

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I don't know about him either. The its not my money just give him what he wants crowd say pull the trigger but I think mid to long term the contract is the second coming of Tex on a larger scale.

Ehh Manny is so young though. Tex was alot older when he signed. I didn't expect Tex to crumble quite like he did. But it wasnt necessarily a shocker he didn't age well into a long contract.

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[Armor and Sword]

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I don’t want either of them, unless short contracts which of course they wouldn’t be.

Much rather invest in starting pitching.

I think every spot in the lineup hit 20 HR last year. We need pitching.


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The problem is great pitchers...are in very short supply. Look at how aggressive teams are in terms of locking up their young studs (Strasburg for example was taken off the market before he hit the market).

I think the Yankees have a staff ace in Severino and a lot of solid starters behind him, and one of the best bullpens in the biz.

Bryce Harper IMO would be a major signing for many reasons. But I think we will be getting a true baller who will fully embrace The Yankees culture and will be a monster star in NY and put up incredible numbers in that park.

I just hope this all comes to light soon though. I can't believe how boring The Hot Stove has become the last two years.

LETS GO!!!!!!

[DamnYanks2]

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Unless we could get something good for Sonny Gray. I say keep him. Hard to do too much worse using him as a 5th pitcher.
Could do much worse. He should be motivated. And could have a huge bounceback season.

I'm not the 1st to say this. But I've changed my mind about him. There isn't much pressure being at the very back end of the rotation.



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[Armor and Sword]

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Gray when his head is right is a solid starter. Let’s hope he finds his mojo again.


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[Rocket32]

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Unless we could get something good for Sonny Gray. I say keep him. Hard to do too much worse using him as a 5th pitcher.
Could do much worse. He should be motivated. And could have a huge bounceback season.

I'm not the 1st to say this. But I've changed my mind about him. There isn't much pressure being at the very back end of the rotation.



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I agree. If they trade him it doesn’t look like they will get enough back to make it worth trading him. He has too much potential to rebound this year to just dump him.

I also like this suggestion from the latest MLB Trade Rumors article about Gray.

“This is just my speculation, but New York begin the year by making Gray something of a de facto sixth starter, only using him in road starts as a nod to his much-superior numbers outside of Yankee Stadium. With a sixth starter and multiple off-days in April, this scenario allows the Yankees to ease their starters (all veterans, and most with significant injury histories) into the new campaign. Gray could also be used out of the bullpen, though one would think the Yankees would want to keep him stretched out as a starter to appeal more to trade suitors.”


I would like if they gave him a little time this year to figure it out at Yankee Stadium before going this route but worst case you try utilizing him mostly on the road. Ideally you want him to be able to pitch effectively in his own team’s ballpark but if he can be a nice arm for us in away games I still think he brings more value to the team then whatever the return for him this offseason would be.


I don’t get why Cashman ran his mouth to the media in the first place. Why announce your intention to move a player and admit that the player hasn’t worked out for your team to the baseball world? If anything it removes some of whatever leverage you have, makes the player feel unwanted by the team and damages his confidence, and potentially adds a bit of awkwardness to the nearly always existing possibility that you don’t get a good offer and end up keeping him for now in the end.



Yes, he did talk positively about Gray as well but how much of that is genuine and how much of it is possibly talking him up to interested teams. Obviously you aren’t going to take shots at or talk negatively about a player you want to move unless you’re Phil Jackson.

And if Cashman does believe what he said about Gray, why deal him?
The Gray situation has been mishandled in my opinion.


I don’t want to write a novel here, so just check out this article: https://www.pinstripealley.com/platf...aching-cashman

[Sportsforever]

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Using my MLB.tv I've been going back through and randomly watching through the Yankee's season (I saw every Braves game already, so thought I'd check in on the Yanks). It's incredible how well they played from late April through June...they just felt really special and were a lot of fun. They really fell off in the 2nd half by comparison and I think a lot of that had to do with injuries.

It will be interesting to see, regardless if they sign Machado or Harper, if the young players (Severino, Andujar, Torres) build off last year and the stars (Judge, Sanchez) rebound from injury. Judge was the best player on the team, IMO, last year...if he plays the full season he probably puts up a similar season to 2017.