**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[Rocket32]

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Would’ve loved to see Tulo on the Yankees years ago....but I geuss now works too. Great signing at such a low price. Hope he surprises everyone, including me.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I guess, if we sign Manny, we'd try Tulo at short until Didi gets hurt, and Andujar is the full time DH? Could be interesting if Stanton can stay healthy enough to man the OF everyday, then Tulo is trade bait if he does well and Didi comes back. Otherwise, he's not getting paid anything so if he's trash in Spring Training, just cut him and move on.

My reaction to this is entirely contingent on signing Manny.

[Rocket32]

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We seriously lost Robertson to the Phillies on a 2 year 23M contract? Ridiculous. So if they don’t get both Britton and Ottavino now the bullpen is likely to be worse then it was last year. Great.


Who would’ve thought that Hal would manage to be cheaper then the Coupons this offseason.

[DamnYanks2]

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We seriously lost Robertson to the Phillies on a 2 year 23M contract? Ridiculous. So if they don’t get both Britton and Ottavino now the bullpen is likely to be worse then it was last year. Great.


Who would’ve thought that Hal would manage to be cheaper then the Coupons this offseason.

But we got the corpse of Tulo.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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I have to think the opportunity to close there outweighed the money, and hope we didn't just refuse to match it. That said, Kay said they never had any interest in him.

I don't get the Ottavino hype having not seen him, his stats are not too exciting. Doesn't give up hits, but gives up too many walks and was not good from August on... The bullpen will be worse next year even if we add him IMO.

Who would’ve thought that Hal would manage to be cheaper then the Coupons this offseason.

Me.

[KCowse]

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I don’t think the bullpen is automatically worse going into next year. We have to hope everyone stays healthy and that some of the younger guys they will probably bring up perform. Britton slots into the role Robertson filled for most of the season, and they possibly sign someone else so an A.J. Cole type isn’t pitching so much. You still have three closers in the back end plus Chad Green and Holder.

I would be less surprised to see Cashman find another starter than sign Machado though. I don’t think that even the “cheap” Yankees will be satisfied with Sonny Gray in the rotation to start the year.


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[Armor and Sword]

**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

I am not thinking we go after Machado.

I think they are making a strong push for Harper you are just not hearing about it.

Harper will either be a Yankee or a National IMO.


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[DieHardYankee26]

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I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to the Nationals but without a single definitive offer and every report talking more about how much they don't want to pay than how much they will pay, I think it's impossible to judge. That said, Manny fills a much bigger need for me which is an anchor in the infield defensively. Andujar and Voit on the corners is a mess, Bryce is just a luxury. It would sell tickets and jerseys so Hal would benefit... I could see it.

I don't see any starters for us to acquire unless we trade Andujar and even then you're at the mercy of the trade market.

[Armor and Sword]

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I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to the Nationals but without a single definitive offer and every report talking more about how much they don't want to pay than how much they will pay, I think it's impossible to judge. That said, Manny fills a much bigger need for me which is an anchor in the infield defensively. Andujar and Voit on the corners is a mess, Bryce is just a luxury. It would sell tickets and jerseys so Hal would benefit... I could see it.

I don't see any starters for us to acquire unless we trade Andujar and even then you're at the mercy of the trade market.

Do not trade Andujar.....I am being serious when I say this....but he has HOF hitting potential. Work hard with him on becoming a 1B.


Do not trade that young bat!!!

The issue I have with Manny and call me old school, but I have been able to make calls on this (I did it with Hanley Ramirez). Once Manny get’s that fat contract I do not see him being better. I see a kid who will tail off, and become a dog. I just can’t stand his attitude and the way he carries himself on and off the field.

Total speculation on my part.

Harper to me is not a luxury. He will be an elite left handed power bat in Yankee Stadium. Something that can’t be over stated.

That kid was born to be a Yankee. And I feel strongly he will end up being in New York.

We have had a very good off-season thus far and Harper is a piece that can really put us over the top.

Torres can play SS, we can find a combo to platoon at first and third.

Hell The Yankees could sign both Harper and Machado if they wanted too and say FU to the entire league and be the Evil Empire once again. Then all the moaners and complainers will come out of the woodwork.


Also...Greg Bird....I know he has not been able to stay healthy. But he is turning 27 and this is now going to be the prime of his career. If he can stay on the field he can be a huge factor and give us a surprise breakout season with 25 plus dingers.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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I don't expect anything from Greg Bird.

My Andujar take: When Machado was Andujar's age, he played 162 games and put up a 6 WAR season. Andujar's best case scenario is a poor man's Manny Machado, his lack of plate discipline will stop him from getting much better as a hitter and his defensive deficiencies can be covered to make him a decent defender, but he will never be Machado. Moving Andujar to 1st takes a lot of the impact out of his bat, as does moving him to DH, which is why I personally would sign Manny and trade him, but I'm more convinced we'll be going into opening day with a Tulo-Andujar infield by the day.

When I say Bryce is a luxury, I mean we just don't need him, he doesn't fill a hole. I'd like a left handed bat in there, but none of our hitters have crazy splits and are inept at hitting right handers so that's not a huge concern. They are going to want to go forward with Voit because he's their prime analytics find I think. Unless Bryce is a full time first baseman or DH, rotating corner outfield spots in the way we would need to seems odd.

Born to be a Yankee... How about the guy who came up a shortstop and is considering a move to third base who idolized a guy who came up as a shortstop and had to move to third base when he came to the Yankees? 13 is still available... He's spent time in the division and hates the Red Sox like a fan.

The tax threshold is $206 mil this year, the second level (before a draft pick is lost) is between 226 and 246. I think we're at 163 projected with arbitration raises, plus 17 for Happ, 13 for Britton, 8 for CC, 7.5 for Brett (don't hold me to these numbers, I'm trying to estimate). Gives us 36ish mil to play with. If only we were the richest team in the sport with revenue 100 mil+ that of the second place team and we didn't have such payroll restrictions...

[Armor and Sword]

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Well for a 100 win team you sure think we are filled with some problems! Lol.

Look I won’t complain if we land Machado, but you value him a lot more based on the now.

I am speculating when he gets paid we never see that value on the deal.

Bryce is an old school ball player IMO. Yeah like Manny a polarizing personality, but I see monster numbers for many years to come.

And it is far too early to write off Andujar’s bat. He is simply too young and still has plenty of development time left as a hitter.

Bird.....again. Only problem with him has been horrible luck staying healthy. Because he has a gorgeous text book swing.

I have a lot more optimism I guess about the team without Manny than you.

That’s cool. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

If we land Machado then I hope he becomes a new Yankees legend!


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[DieHardYankee26]

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There's much more evidence (his actual numbers) that we have no idea what Bryce will give us year to year than Manny falling off due to his attitude I think.

I'm not writing off Andujar's bat. You said he could be a HoF bat, I don't disagree. Manny already is one, and a HoF glove. It's just a no brainer to me.

[Rocket32]

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There's much more evidence (his actual numbers) that we have no idea what Bryce will give us year to year than Manny falling off due to his attitude I think.

I'm not writing off Andujar's bat. You said he could be a HoF bat, I don't disagree. Manny already is one, and a HoF glove. It's just a no brainer to me.

I agree on Harper. I like Bryce but when looking at the stats it’s hard to say that we’d be better off with him then Machado. Bryce has just been too inconsistent to be worth the contract he’s going to get in my opinion. Manny has produced at a high level more consistently and also has an elite glove. I geuss if the pattern repeats at least Harper is due to go off again next year.

Manny gives us insurance in case Didi isn’t what he was after he returns and also could open up a pretty valuable trade chip in Andujar. I like Andujar’s potential but it’s time to win now. Andujar definitely isn’t bad now but he’s no Machado. The farm system isn’t what it was not long ago either, Andujar could be an essential piece in landing a Kluber in a trade. Unless you’d rather trade Torres instead. Hal likely could’ve simply fixed the problem by signing Corbin but he was too cheap.


Plus we all know Tulo won’t last until Didi returns. Counting on him is just stupid, scary thing is it appears they might seriously be considering it. With him and Ellsbury it’s a matter of when not if. I like Tulo but you can’t really afford to rely on his health.

[DamnYanks2]

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I'm only for trading Andujar for an elite pitcher. Aka Thor or Kluber. Because that's what this team needs. The lineup is fine as is. If they don't make another move this offseason, that lineup is still one of the better lineups in baseball even without Didi.

I 100% believe if Gary stays healthy. He's going to have one hell of a bounceback season. Especially offensively.

Now if we could flip Andujar for Kluber and sign Harper or Machado. That's the icing on the cake for me.

But if this is what we are going in with.

Hicks -cf
Torres-2b
Judge-rf
Stanton- DH
Andujar 3b
Sanchez C
Voit/Bird-1b
Tulo-SS
LF-Gardy/Frazier?

That's still pretty potent. We just need another starter and a few more bullpen arms.










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[Armor and Sword]

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I would
Flip Andujar for those pitchers in a nano second as I agree we need one more elite arm (like most good teams lol)


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