**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[Rocket32]

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People are really gonna let Hal get away with turning us into the Mets. I got nothing.

Can’t act like it’s only Hal operating this way. Most of the other big market teams aren’t throwing money at anyone and everyone simply because they can either. Red Sox haven’t upgraded and appear to be allowing Kimbrel to walk. What have the Dodgers done? Cleared payroll and still haven’t signed Harper which was supposedly the reason they did it in the first place.

Angels? Grabbed a few cheap rotation arms. Cubs? Haven’t spent any more money and haven’t heard anything about them and Harper even though they were supposed to be in on him. Giants? Nothing.


Not many teams seem very interested in handing out huge contracts this offseason either except the Phillies and White Sox. What do they have in common? They both didn’t already have sizable payrolls heading into this offseason. White Sox aren’t contenders if they do nothing, Philly definitely needed some upgrades from the FA market.

[DieHardYankee26]

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If I were a fan of those teams I'd be pissed. As it is I don't care about them and it makes me even more angry that Hal isn't doing anything while other owners are sleeping in the market.

[Rocket32]

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If I were a fan of those teams I'd be pissed. As it is I don't care about them and it makes me even more angry that Hal isn't doing anything while other owners are sleeping in the market.

Just pointing out that it’s kind of happening all over the league. Could be the way the league is headed with the luxury tax penalties being made more severe not long ago.
Also worth noting that it’s not only about money anymore, if a team’s payroll gets too high their top draft pick gets 10 spots worse.

And about your previous comment of would you rather have LeMahieu or another Stanton I’d take LeMahieu unless that other Stanton type player is going to consistently have seasons like Stanton’s 2017 NL MVP season. I find LeMahieu more valuable to an already power filled Yankee lineup then another strikeout heavy power bat.


Considering he’s still just 29 and moving to another ballpark that’s great for hitters I’m expecting LeMahieu to be similar to the player he was the past 3 years before last year. He dosen’t need to hit 20+ HR’s or hit the monster shots that Stanton and Judge are capable of. They’ll be fine in the HR department without him contributing much there. A premium defender who consistently hits for average, gets on base, and doesn’t strikeout much? Yes please, a needed addition.

He dosen’t bring star power to the table like Manny or Harper, win us the offseason, or bring a ton of attention, but I am excited to see him in pinstripes anyway.

[Rocket32]

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Would you rather have DJ Lamehameha or another Stanton?

Oh, and about ‘Lamehameha’, saw this in the comments on MLB Trade Rumors. Can’t promise that this is 100% correct since it’s not in the article itself and I don’t really wanna bother checking myself, so, :

“2018 stats would’ve put him 3rd on the Yankees in hitting (hits and AVG – less skewed than power numbers) and 2017 would’ve put him as the best hitter on the Yankees (again, hits and AVG). He’s also won a Gold Glove at 2nd each of the last 2 years. The last Yankee infielder to win a Gold Glove was Cano in 2012”

[DieHardYankee26]

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It's really not about baseball anymore, Hal has made that clear. It's about business. So here I am as a customer of this business seeing record revenue, being told they can't afford (or its not smart) to sign star players. That's troubling to me... Because it's not smart for me to travel 8 hours and pay $400 to sit on the dugout when I could do the same thing up the street for $150 for a team that doesn't seem to have a problem spending like the Yankees do. It's not smart for me to pay for MLB Extra Innings when my local TV package comes with MASN. I feel like Hal is spitting in our face and trying to see who will come back. It's far too expensive to be a Yankees fan for me to take these excuses seriously.

AVG, hits, and gold gloves eh? Where would Manny have ranked in those same stats? DJ has one above average hitting season to his name. Last season he was 14% below average. In the 3 years before it, he was -6, +30, -9. The year before that in 149 games he was -34%. It seems like they're betting on a swing change making him Didi 2.0, we will see, but as of now, this guy is not a good hitter. To boot, his strikeout rate is 1% below Manny. YS is a different animal than Coors, he'll have left-center to play with but not as much outfield space overall.

It's good to see Betances settle above his projection. I'm curious to see what each side files for Severino (we filed at 4.4 mil, he at 5.25, taking the ace to arbitration over 800k...but we're saving money to take care of our guys right? OK...) I'll be interested to see how the team goes forward with Didi and Hicks. Wouldn't shock me at all to see Hicks get a big offer somewhere and leave with another year of our window wasted if everything doesn't go well this year. What worries me is how trash we looked when Judge went down, and the idea that we could've done something big to supplement that potential loss, or if Stanton gets hurt, but instead we're fixing problems with duct tape.

In more positive news:

https://twitter.com/BobKlap/status/1083780281759350784

[Rocket32]

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It's really not about baseball anymore, Hal has made that clear. It's about business. So here I am as a customer of this business seeing record revenue, being told they can't afford (or its not smart) to sign star players. That's troubling to me... Because it's not smart for me to travel 8 hours and pay $400 to sit on the dugout when I could do the same thing up the street for $150 for a team that doesn't seem to have a problem spending like the Yankees do. It's not smart for me to pay for MLB Extra Innings when my local TV package comes with MASN. I feel like Hal is spitting in our face and trying to see who will come back. It's far too expensive to be a Yankees fan for me to take these excuses seriously.

AVG, hits, and gold gloves eh? Where would Manny have ranked in those same stats? DJ has one above average hitting season to his name. Last season he was 14% below average. In the 3 years before it, he was -6, +30, -9. The year before that in 149 games he was -34%. It seems like they're betting on a swing change making him Didi 2.0, we will see, but as of now, this guy is not a good hitter. To boot, his strikeout rate is 1% below Manny. YS is a different animal than Coors, he'll have left-center to play with but not as much outfield space overall.

It's good to see Betances settle above his projection. I'm curious to see what each side files for Severino (we filed at 4.4 mil, he at 5.25, taking the ace to arbitration over 800k...but we're saving money to take care of our guys right? OK...) I'll be interested to see how the team goes forward with Didi and Hicks. Wouldn't shock me at all to see Hicks get a big offer somewhere and leave with another year of our window wasted if everything doesn't go well this year. What worries me is how trash we looked when Judge went down, and the idea that we could've done something big to supplement that potential loss, or if Stanton gets hurt, but instead we're fixing problems with duct tape.

In more positive news:

https://twitter.com/BobKlap/status/1083780281759350784

I agree with you that it’s not worth traveling hours and hours and then pay the outrageous Yankee Stadium ticket prices on top of that. I live a similar distance away as well. For me it’s much more worth it to travel a lot less far and just go see a Braves game, especially now that they are a contender again. If you haven’t been and live a reasonable distance away I would definitely recommend going. Only been their once myself but SunTrust is a pretty beautiful ballpark. That’s assuming you’d have any interest in a non Yankees game and are a baseball fan in general.


Would love to go to Yankee games but long distance + overpriced tickets? No thanks unless I win the lottery or something. I’m content watching on tv from home, it’s just not worth it.

[JHedges2]

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Just pointing out that it’s kind of happening all over the league. Could be the way the league is headed with the luxury tax penalties being made more severe not long ago.

Also worth noting that it’s not only about money anymore, if a team’s payroll gets too high their top draft pick gets 10 spots worse.



And about your previous comment of would you rather have LeMahieu or another Stanton I’d take LeMahieu unless that other Stanton type player is going to consistently have seasons like Stanton’s 2017 NL MVP season. I find LeMahieu more valuable to an already power filled Yankee lineup then another strikeout heavy power bat.





Considering he’s still just 29 and moving to another ballpark that’s great for hitters I’m expecting LeMahieu to be similar to the player he was the past 3 years before last year. He dosen’t need to hit 20+ HR’s or hit the monster shots that Stanton and Judge are capable of. They’ll be fine in the HR department without him contributing much there. A premium defender who consistently hits for average, gets on base, and doesn’t strikeout much? Yes please, a needed addition.



He dosen’t bring star power to the table like Manny or Harper, win us the offseason, or bring a ton of attention, but I am excited to see him in pinstripes anyway.

Your perspective is outstanding. Agree with all of what you’ve said.

Also I am in GA and a little over an hour from SunTrust. It is an exceptional upgrade over Turner Field in every possible aspect.


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[DieHardYankee26]

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RIP Mel Stottlemyre

[KCowse]

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While I’ve been more accepting of the Yankee’s frugality than some on here, I would even be upset if they let Machado walk for 7/175 or something similar. If you can get him for that short for that little you have to. To me, none of the excuses we have created for them apply to a deal like that. We’d be done with the guy at 33...


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[DieHardYankee26]

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https://twitter.com/torresgleyber/status/1085991008129691648?s=21

Clint Frazier on Twitter looking for a new nickname, someone suggested "how about active player"... I'm dead.

[DamnYanks2]

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While I’ve been more accepting of the Yankee’s frugality than some on here, I would even be upset if they let Machado walk for 7/175 or something similar. If you can get him for that short for that little you have to. To me, none of the excuses we have created for them apply to a deal like that. We’d be done with the guy at 33...


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Yea 7 makes sense. I'd throw that at either Machado or Harper.

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[Rocket32]

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https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-have-discussed-the-possibility-of-trying-to-trade-for-rockies-nolan-arenado-report-says/

That would make sense as to why they aren’t spending big on Harper or Machado this offseason.

Arenado > Machado

[DieHardYankee26]

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Not only is Manny better than Arenado...the only thing that could be worse than passing on signing Manny Machado to sign an already older Nolan Arenado would be to pass on signing Manny Machado to give up talent to acquire an already older Nolan Arenado and then signing him.

[CMH]

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Not only is Manny better than Arenado...the only thing that could be worse than passing on signing Manny Machado to sign an already older Nolan Arenado would be to pass on signing Manny Machado to give up talent to acquire an already older Nolan Arenado and then signing him.

I agree with the latter but I'm not sure about the former. I need to look deeper at the splits but Arenado has performed better than Machado.

That said Machado did it in the AL East which definitely has a negative impact on performance.

My only other guess is the Yankees think they can re-sign Arenado for whatever new lower deals baseball is seeing now and they also don't have to worry about his hustle and head.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Arenado is going for 30 mil in arbitration right now, he's not signing for anything cheap. I've been reading Baseball Prospectus articles a lot recently, they've got a new metric that is more favorable to Rockies and they claim is more predictive than WRC+ and OPS+ so we'll see. I have heard a lot about how Rockies hitters face a weird thing where pitches move differently in Coors so they basically see different pitchers at home vs on the road and it drives their road performance down just as much as it boosts their home performance. Makes sense I guess, imagine having to watch footage on Coors Kershaw and then going to Dodgers Stadium and his curveball has another 4 inches of break to it.

I'm not anti-Arenado, I like his vibe, he reminds me of Josh Donaldson, who I'm a big fan of. It would depend on the package for me I guess.

Andy Martino doesn't know anything about the Yankees, that report is probably lies.