Blocks are ridiculous!

[fatboirob]

Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

I turned blocks down to zero for user and cpu and vertical down to 30 for user and cpu. Shot blockers still get theirs at appropriate times and non shot blockers now struggle to get blocks

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[hanzsomehanz]

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Not necessarily more 'foul calls', but worse ball tracking (which in the end will lead to more slapped hands/arms = more fouls).

I was able to achieve this by making a number of changes within sliders but the key was to lower blocking. I currently have blocking at 40 and block attempts are still prevalent however successful, emphatic blocks are far less prevalent and excitingly rare occurrences now.

I've learned that the block radius is far two large at default setting and triggers warping and less penalty on poor positioning and poor timing. At 40 I can feel how poor a blocker is and I also see who the elite blockers are.

In a recent game, my Hibbert had 4 blocks and was a fierce defender in the paint - even when he didn't get the block: his presence was continually disrupting shots (forcing adjusted layups). I had three more individual blocks outside of him but his performance stood out.

Trying to block with Lillard and J.R. Smith (fantasy draft in My GM) is a struggle but I did get block with Lillard on a contested shot against CP3 who attempted a middy. It looked like a shooting foul was misses but the block surprised me and I like that - Lillard stayed on his feet and clipped the ball as CP3 was rising through his gather.

When a perimiter player is beat now: the block attempt in pursuit will no longer keep him almost magnetized to the offensive player. This is a flaw with the default block sliders: blocking ties in with pursuit and at default the pursuit ability on blocks is very overpowering and unrealistic in respect to a player's blocking radius.

40 on Blocks feels good right now for both sides in conjunction with modified foul sliders and a few other changes involving contact on drives and defensive strength on jump shots.

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[TMagic]

Blocks are ridiculous!

Sooo...

I just had a jump hook from Dwight blocked by Steve Kerr online.

Not from help side or one of his patented chase down blocks.

Kerr was switched on Dwight. I posted him up. No help came. I backed him all the way under the rim. And went with the hook.

Steve Kerr went straight up, off vert, and blocked Dwights jump hook.

[magicman32]

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Sooo...

I just had a jump hook from Dwight blocked by Steve Kerr online.

Not from help side or one of his patented chase down blocks.

Kerr was switched on Dwight. I posted him up. No help came. I backed him all the way under the rim. And went with the hook.

Steve Kerr went straight up, off vert, and blocked Dwights jump hook.

I think online is a totally different game and won't enter that world. lol But that's terrrible. Totally unacceptable. SMH

[BigSean715]

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I'm sure it has been mentioned in this thread, but honestly I only think there's 2 main issues with blocking this year:

1. Ratings should matter more. It should be significantly more difficult for me to get a block with Tony Wroten than John Wall. Same difference should exist between Tyler Zeller and Hassan Whiteside.
While it shouldn't be impossible to block a shot with an average PG, it should require perfect timing, whereas an elite shotblocker has a MUCH bigger window and reach.

2. This is the really the only thing that bothers me. The block opportunity should only exist once the ball is leaving the hand, or for a dunk, when it's on it's way to the rim.
Way too many blocks happen before you even get to the shot/layup release form, leading to the offensive player continuing the animation and looking like an idiot shooting or dunking an invisable ball.

While I know it's hard to find a balance as we don't want balls going through arms of course, the hand to ball tracking needs to be improved, nobody should block shots with their body or armpit or elbow.

Even in a situation where the defender gets so high that he COULD block it with his elbows, his hand needs to attempt to find the ball.

*Note if you go through tendencies, you'll notice that block shot tendencies are high across the board for non shot blocking bigs (meanwhile there's the odd 64 for Hassan Whiteside, it was the same last year)

^^^ This. I agree 100%

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Watching some pre-season action, and Schroeder just blocked Dallas' new 7'3 center at the rim.

Just sayin'.

[Gerick90]

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Plz 2k tune down the blocks

[Raider131]

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Watching some pre-season action, and Schroeder just blocked Dallas' new 7'3 center at the rim.

Just sayin'.

rare occurrence doesn't equal the norm. Whats more likely a guard perfectly timing a block or fouling someone swiping for the ball

[MeloJello]

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I'm not understanding why you mad about the defense taking what you gave them? I already told you how to avoid it. Either you start learning how to be selective with your shot selection, or you don't. If you know the two handed dunk is an easy block from the back, then why keep doing it? Every fast break doesn't have to end with a dunk.

You cant be serious, SO i guess by ur logic Allen Iverson can block Shaq from the back then. I have np if dunk getting block from elite defenders or even other bigman/forward with avg and above defenders. But when it comes down guards who are 6'3" and under with a freaking block rating and contest rating of 35 and below. Yes I have a problem.

[Caelumfang]

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Lol I can't wait until it gets patched to where it plays a numbers game again, and balls start morphing through hands and limbs, so I can see everyone come back whining.

[Raider131]

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Lol I can't wait until it gets patched to where it plays a numbers game again, and balls start morphing through hands and limbs, so I can see everyone come back whining.

Lol what kinda mentality is that, it's not perfect but they shouldn't work on it?

If 3's were falling at an high rate for players with low 3 pt ratings, people would want that tuned
If anyone could just dunk over any player, people would want that tuned
If terrible defenders were checking people like Tony Allen, they'd want that tuned.

Being able to get a chase down block multiple times with players that aren't shot blockers isn't realistic. How often do you see guys jump at a guy shooting a jumper and send his stuff into the stands? Not often, yet you can easily do it two or three times a game without getting penalized with a foul. Top end shot blockers are fine but guards need to be tweaked for more fouls if they go up to contest a shot like they're Anthony Davis.

[DonWuan]

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Just reading through the thread I believe almost everyone recognize the issue but afraid of the overblown patch that's incoming.

It shocks the hell out of me when I take a calederon and can alter an elite players shot while I'm late reacting/out of position. Comes down to picking your poison I guess.

Greatest 2k yet but still a lot of work to be done. Every team playing the same is a bigger eye sore. Transition defense makes me want to vomit. This is all from a offline player.

I can't imagine what you online players go through.

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[Caelumfang]

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Lol what kinda mentality is that, it's not perfect but they shouldn't work on it?

If 3's were falling at an high rate for players with low 3 pt ratings, people would want that tuned
If anyone could just dunk over any player, people would want that tuned
If terrible defenders were checking people like Tony Allen, they'd want that tuned.

Being able to get a chase down block multiple times with players that aren't shot blockers isn't realistic. How often do you see guys jump at a guy shooting a jumper and send his stuff into the stands? Not often, yet you can easily do it two or three times a game without getting penalized with a foul. Top end shot blockers are fine but guards need to be tweaked for more fouls if they go up to contest a shot like they're Anthony Davis.

What you all don't realize is this will go one of three ways:

1.) The power to block stays mostly in the user's control (how it is now). You'll be back here complaining.

2.) The blocking is patched, which returns control back into the hands of the game. The numbers game comes into play, which means the system pits block ratings vs shot/layup/dunk ratings. If the offensive numbers win out through whatever calculations the game uses, then you get to deal with your limbs going straight through the ball. You'll be back here complaining. (NBA 2K11, 2K14)

3.) NBA 2K13 'blocking' returns, or lack thereof. Need I say anymore? You'll be back here complaining.

Remember, be careful what you wish for.

Edit: There can be a 4th option of disabling your button when you get into position, not allowing you to go for the block because your 'rating wasn't high enough to properly block the opponent's shot/layup/dunk.' You know, the whole 'Damn! I'm hitting block, but my dude didn't jump!' Oh, that'll be a real treat, lol.

[LionsFanNJ]

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And they would complain about that

[MadManCometh]

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Watching some pre-season action, and Schroeder just blocked Dallas' new 7'3 center at the rim.

Just sayin'.

But how often that will happen tho? And that's fine that it happens. Probably with 2k16, things of this nature happens ALL THE TIME