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  • Smirkin Dirk
    All Star
    • Oct 2008
    • 5179

    #286
    Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

    Originally posted by BA2929
    Why? It was a poor shot selection in the paint with Curry all over the guy. I could easily see Curry doing that in real life.
    You're joking, right?
    2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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    • Smirkin Dirk
      All Star
      • Oct 2008
      • 5179

      #287
      Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      I can provide examples too...

      Watching the last episode of my boys 2K15 MyCareer....

      His 5'8 PG just scored twice right on Dre Jordan...

      One DJ jumped completely out of position going for a block on his layup

      The other, the PG did a finger roll TOWARDS DJ, basically in his chest and he moves him back ward to score the layup...

      Yeah.....I'm in complete agreement that blocking can be overdone....but I'm fighting tooth and nail not to go back to that ****. To flip Sundowns quote, y'all can turn blocks to 0 if it bothers you, lol



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      I 100% agree.

      If its a choice between the occasional Muggsy Bogues snatch block and 2K15 no blocks, Im taking 2K16 all the way.
      2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #288
        Blocks are ridiculous!

        Originally posted by Hot Kidd
        I 100% agree.



        If its a choice between the occasional Muggsy Bogues snatch block and 2K15 no blocks, Im taking 2K16 all the way.

        I'd be ideal if they can patch in a middle ground until next year when they can build logic into the system....I'm all for that....

        but watching that video just brought back memories, lol

        EDIT: the struggle

        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ck-2k14-8.html

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        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 10-23-2015, 06:47 PM.

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        • jbl33333
          Rookie
          • Oct 2015
          • 50

          #289
          Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

          who else thinks it's complete bs that curry has a 3 star defensive rating in 2k16? if I'm a point guard in the league i would easily choose to have curry defending me over the likes of wall, westbrook, rose, CP3.........

          on the current topic, you know the game is crazy when you're on a fast break with d rose and patty mills comes up from behind for the lebron chasedown into the stands...... the amount of missed dunks in this game due to "defensive effort" (no matter who the trailing defender is) is mind blowing..... give us our dunks and tone down the D 2k..

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          • raidertiger
            Rookie
            • May 2011
            • 493

            #290
            Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

            Originally posted by jbl33333
            who else thinks it's complete bs that curry has a 3 star defensive rating in 2k16? if I'm a point guard in the league i would easily choose to have curry defending me over the likes of wall, westbrook, rose, CP3.........
            How many Warriors games do you watch, by any chance?

            LOL at Westbrook or Rose being better PG defenders too. Seriously, athleticism doesn't equal defence. You may not believe me, but just try to watch more games without pre-conceived notions and see for yourself.

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            • BluFu
              MVP
              • May 2012
              • 3596

              #291
              Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

              Originally posted by jbl33333
              who else thinks it's complete bs that curry has a 3 star defensive rating in 2k16?
              Who actually uses a 3 star method to grade... anything? Yeah, ignore that.

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              • jbl33333
                Rookie
                • Oct 2015
                • 50

                #292
                Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                Originally posted by raidertiger
                How many Warriors games do you watch, by any chance?

                LOL at Westbrook or Rose being better PG defenders too. Seriously, athleticism doesn't equal defence. You may not believe me, but just try to watch more games without pre-conceived notions and see for yourself.
                I actually watch quite a bit of most teams in the NBA, the warriors included... I mean curry's individual defense is alright but doesn't seem like anything to write home about... the warriors, as a team however, that defense is a whole other story. i'll have to watch curry more closely this season and see if theres something i was missing.

                westbrook and rose arent top-of-their position defenders either but they're both physically strong and quick enough to stay with their man, and also put in reliable effort most of the time. i can't remember if i've ever seen an opposing PG have a career night against rose. but agreed athleticism by itself doesnt mean anything... nobody has ever said gerald green is a great defender
                Last edited by jbl33333; 10-23-2015, 09:23 PM.

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                • raidertiger
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 493

                  #293
                  Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                  Originally posted by jbl33333
                  I actually watch quite a bit of most teams in the NBA, the warriors included... I mean curry's individual defense is alright but doesn't seem like anything to write home about... the warriors, as a team however, that defense is a whole other story. i'll have to watch curry more closely this season and see if theres something i was missing.

                  westbrook and rose arent top-of-their position defenders either but they're both physically strong and quick enough to stay with their man, and also put in reliable effort most of the time. i can't remember if i've ever seen an opposing PG have a career night against rose. but agreed athleticism by itself doesnt mean anything... nobody has ever said gerald green is a great defender
                  The thing about Curry is he understands his limitations and the scheme, and he always gives 100% unlike other players. He knows where help is, he knows where to force players and does his best in executing his job. Off-ball, he's got good instincts for the most part, and rarely gets beat back-door or gets caught heavily on screens. His feet aren't amazingly quick, but he holds his own 1 on 1 against most players. Sure, he struggles a bit in keeping up with Westbrook, but who doesn't? The thing is, he's smart enough and the Warriors well-coached enough that no matter who he's on, he's not going to get absolutely burned.

                  He's not without faults obviously. Off-ball, he can get caught in no mans land on several occasions. He won't commit to the driver, nor will he stretch out to guard the arc. There's also stretches where he fouls a lot, but he's cut down on that a bit. And as mentioned, his athleticism isn't a hinderance, but it caps his ceiling as merely an above-average on-ball defender.

                  Now, why do I think he's better than Westbrook and Rose? Westbrook is much more of a gambler. He relies on his athleticism too much, and that becomes worrisome as he can lose his man more often off-ball. Sure, he gets steals, but that doesn't mean he's playing good defence. Good defenders play within the scheme and themselves, and Westbrook can do that but doesn't do it consistently enough.

                  And as far as Rose, I've barely seen him recently, but I've noticed that his effort and his off-ball defence isn't that great at all. I don't rate him high.

                  Sure, you can debate his 3 stars, but honestly I'd have him in the top 10 overall as far as PG defence. Whether thats worth 3 stars is up to you.

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                  • Sundown
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3270

                    #294
                    Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                    Originally posted by jbl33333
                    who else thinks it's complete bs that curry has a 3 star defensive rating in 2k16? if I'm a point guard in the league i would easily choose to have curry defending me over the likes of wall, westbrook, rose, CP3.........

                    on the current topic, you know the game is crazy when you're on a fast break with d rose and patty mills comes up from behind for the lebron chasedown into the stands...... the amount of missed dunks in this game due to "defensive effort" (no matter who the trailing defender is) is mind blowing..... give us our dunks and tone down the D 2k..
                    Westbrook's defense is actually quite poor compared to Curry's. Yes, he's flashy and his athleticism makes him look like he's doing something, but he gambles and consistently has a negative defensive rating in advanced metrics.

                    Rose has never been that great of a defender. Especially not now. Again, seems you're looking at athleticism and aesthetics over actual impact.

                    Curry is average-to-above average. But he weirdly WANTED to play defense and was actually held back by Jackson who hid him on non-threats. Curry applies his basketball IQ and instincts to be a pretty effective defender in a good defensive system, funneling his man to help. He's not a physical lock-down defender, but he gives a damn and is a notable plus in a team defensive scheme.

                    Of course there's no comparison with CP3 and Wall's better, but Westbrook and Rose haven't been as effective defenders (Westbrook is a negative on DRPM), despite both playing in good defensive systems.
                    Last edited by Sundown; 10-24-2015, 03:36 AM.

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                    • acetheredcomet
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 178

                      #295
                      Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                      I personally like the way they made blocking in this game, it actually requires you to make smart decision on offense instead of trying to poster everyone and their mother. To me, the strip ball in the paint is OP, I lose the ball countless times coming down with the offensive rebound, or when I attempt to put a dunk down on a guard, the ball gets stripped. I get stripped way more than blocked. (then again I play PF, so I am a prime target for square (x) mashers.

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                      • MadManCometh
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 459

                        #296
                        Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                        Originally posted by acetheredcomet
                        I personally like the way they made blocking in this game, it actually requires you to make smart decision on offense instead of trying to poster everyone and their mother. To me, the strip ball in the paint is OP, I lose the ball countless times coming down with the offensive rebound, or when I attempt to put a dunk down on a guard, the ball gets stripped. I get stripped way more than blocked. (then again I play PF, so I am a prime target for square (x) mashers.

                        LOL. This guy likes the blocking. Smh. Dude the blocking is hurting this game. The blocking in 2k16 is TERRIBLE

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                        • Goffs
                          New Ork Giants
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12279

                          #297
                          Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                          Originally posted by MadManCometh
                          LOL. This guy likes the blocking. Smh. Dude the blocking is hurting this game. The blocking in 2k16 is TERRIBLE
                          Uh...there's a bunch of us who has no issue with the blocking. I'm of them....like he said just play smart and you won't get blocked.

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                          • psydefx
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 370

                            #298
                            Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                            blocking is op for the user, for sure. i had nine blocks the other night (think the cpu had two), and i think seven of them were from guards.

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                            • kadzier
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 494

                              #299
                              Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                              Originally posted by Goffs
                              Uh...there's a bunch of us who has no issue with the blocking. I'm of them....like he said just play smart and you won't get blocked.
                              I feel like there needs to be a stamp on this topic that says USER initiated blocks are OP, not the CPU

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                              • DC
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 17996

                                #300
                                Re: Blocks are ridiculous!

                                Curry has a 3 star grade in Defense to ensure he has a high overall rating
                                Concrete evidence/videos please

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