NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

[dpower15]

NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

Just started a new expansion franchise in Pittsburgh. Looking to bring in one star player to build around. Not sure who is attainable. I really wanted Derozan. But Idk if Toronto would ever trade him. I've got draft picks and the typical expansion draft players to choose from.... Is it completely unreal to trade for a playmaker guard?

Typically an expansion team will build around its first couple draft choices and after a couple years start to look at adding bigger pieces. I'd recommend building around whoever your first draft pick is and going from there if you want realism. Any thoughts on my question above yours?


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[sterfry1994]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

Using the Bulls and I'm considering trading for Melo to for the 2017-18 season to pair with Wade and Butler. This is based on Phil wanting Melo gone to build around Porzingis and assuming Melo would enjoy a big market and to play with his banana boat buddy Wade.

Based on rumors for earlier on the year that Phil would take a sub-par package for Melo I've come up with the following as a starting point.


Bull Trade:

Lottery Protected 2018 1st Round Pick
Cameron Payne (I like using Jerian Grant better so far)


Knicks Trade:

Carmelo Anthony

[Iceman96]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

With the Bulls, help make some salary dumps
I want to get rid of Rondo and Lopez, Rondo is easy but Lopez is a tricky one given that he has a 4 year deal.

[sterfry1994]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

With the Bulls, help make some salary dumps
I want to get rid of Rondo and Lopez, Rondo is easy but Lopez is a tricky one given that he has a 4 year deal.

Decline Rondo's Team Option at the end of the year since it's not a crippling deal.

Trade Robin Lopez back to Portland for Ezeli and Ed Davis.

If I recall, Ezeli has a Team Option or is unguaranteed for the next season. Ed Davis is a solid player who's cheaper and on a shorter contract. I believe he can play some Center.


Care to respond to my post right above yours?

[Rollo]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

I'm at the start of my first season (after starting from offseason as an expansion team), and I plan on targeting a PG sometime this season through a trade, in the next draft, or sometime next season via trade. Cameron Payne, Ricky Rubio, Goran Dragic, Jordan Clarkson, Jrue Holliday, and D'Angelo Russell are my current targets. Realism wise, I know Russell wouldn't be available, but I am including him for a non realistic aspect. I'd really like to nab him.

I don't have many assets I'm willing to part with player wise. I have Ingram and Biyombo (who I want to keep, but willing to move Biyombo if I get the PG piece I want). I also have Josef Nurkic and Allen Crabbe. Draft pick wise, I have 2x 2017 1st's. One is a Top 5 protected from the second expansion team, and then my own. New lottery rule was Top 5 are lotto selected, so there is a chance the that pick falls just shy of Top 5 protection, otherwise it turns into just a 2018 1st. Would it be likely Russell could be pried away with both 2017 picks (mine staying unprotected), and my own 2019/2020 1st's? For the rest of the targets, I would do Nurkic + 2017 1st unprotected, or Nurkic + Crabbe + 2017 1st protected.

What do you think?

[PleadtheFoe5th]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

I'm at the start of my first season (after starting from offseason as an expansion team), and I plan on targeting a PG sometime this season through a trade, in the next draft, or sometime next season via trade. Cameron Payne, Ricky Rubio, Goran Dragic, Jordan Clarkson, Jrue Holliday, and D'Angelo Russell are my current targets. Realism wise, I know Russell wouldn't be available, but I am including him for a non realistic aspect. I'd really like to nab him.

I don't have many assets I'm willing to part with player wise. I have Ingram and Biyombo (who I want to keep, but willing to move Biyombo if I get the PG piece I want). I also have Josef Nurkic and Allen Crabbe. Draft pick wise, I have 2x 2017 1st's. One is a Top 5 protected from the second expansion team, and then my own. New lottery rule was Top 5 are lotto selected, so there is a chance the that pick falls just shy of Top 5 protection, otherwise it turns into just a 2018 1st. Would it be likely Russell could be pried away with both 2017 picks (mine staying unprotected), and my own 2019/2020 1st's? For the rest of the targets, I would do Nurkic + 2017 1st unprotected, or Nurkic + Crabbe + 2017 1st protected.

What do you think?

The Lakers trade Clarkson b4 Russell...(Russell is more of a playmaker while Clarkson is instant offense) I'd go for clarkson (he's already on your target list) think you could get him for a 1st and a cap filler

[hyphy1]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

Using the Bulls and I'm considering trading for Melo to for the 2017-18 season to pair with Wade and Butler. This is based on Phil wanting Melo gone to build around Porzingis and assuming Melo would enjoy a big market and to play with his banana boat buddy Wade.

Based on rumors for earlier on the year that Phil would take a sub-par package for Melo I've come up with the following as a starting point.


Bull Trade:

Lottery Protected 2018 1st Round Pick
Cameron Payne (I like using Jerian Grant better so far)


Knicks Trade:

Carmelo Anthony

I think you're on the right track. but you gotta lose that protection on the pick. If you have nicer young player than Payne that would be a must. It's a start but you're pretty off imo. That's worse than the cousins trade lol.

[8KB24]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

I think you're on the right track. but you gotta lose that protection on the pick. If you have nicer young player than Payne that would be a must. It's a start but you're pretty off imo. That's worse than the cousins trade lol.

Melo would be 33 when the trade would be done. That's way past his peak and the tail end of his prime.

[jmontanez90]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

Just started a MyLeague from the start now option with the Lakers and simmed to the off-season. Ended up with the #2 pick. I'd like to take either Fultz or Ball and trade D'Angelo to a PG needy team with a starting SG being the target. Can I get some ideas? Maybe Butler, Middleton, LaVine?

Thanks!


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[Rollo]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

The Lakers trade Clarkson b4 Russell...(Russell is more of a playmaker while Clarkson is instant offense) I'd go for clarkson (he's already on your target list) think you could get him for a 1st and a cap filler

Definitely know Lakers would part with Clarkson prior to Russell. That's what I'll attempt closer to the deadline depending on how the Lakers record is and if they're buying or selling. If they're buying, I don't think I have anything they would want. Selling, I'll go the 1st and filler route.

Edit: Season 1 has started and the first trade popped up between Hawks and Hornets (3 games into season). I have trade overrides and approvals turned on. Anyways, trade comes up Kemba Walker and Spencer Hawes for Paul Millsap and Jakob Poeltl. On the surface it looks even, but I feel the Hornets win this trade (seeing as Hawks already have Teague/Schroder). In the team intel section, it shows both teams as buyers, but has Hornets specifically listed as using draft picks to get the right pieces. With this in mind, I'd feel better changing the above trade by adding a Hornets protected 1st in 2017.

Then I got to thinking I could retool the trade completely. Walker/Kaminsky/Austin Rivers/Terrence Jones for Millsap/Schroder/Jonathan Simmons/Rasual Butler. Hornets have Chandler Parsons and JR Smith, but otherwise the team is standard (I started at start of offseason, hence minor differences). This trade moves Terrence Jones from 10th spot on Hornets to starting PF on Hawks. Hawks get 2 starters from the deal and 2 solid backups (both would be top 9 on roster). Hornets get Schroder/Millsap as starters, and the other 2 fall outside the 9 man rotation. Hornets are deep enough to absorb the loss of Rivers/Jones on the bench without receiving bench help in the trade. If I go with this retooled trade, should I have the Hawks throw in pick(s), or maybe have it set as a 1st round swap between the two teams? I feel like it should be 2 2nd round picks from the Hawks, or maybe a 1st in a future draft. I also should point out every piece in the retooled trade from the Hawks are on single year contracts. Millsap has a player option, and both he and Schroder have bird rights. I plan on waiting til mid season to do this kind of trade, so I could potentially do a sign and trade with Schroder.

In all honesty, I'm just gauging my thought process more than anything with this proposal and counter I made.

[dpower15]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

Posted this a few days ago and didn't get an answer. I'm the Nets in yr2. Trying to find a way to set myself up to trade up for the #1 pick (Boston owns Brooklyns 2018 1st). The #1&2 rated prospects are sure fire perennial all stars, and the draft is pretty deep. Think of it as similar to how this years real life draft class is shaping up, just with the top 2 guys being maybe a little more hyped than Ball and Fultz.

The assets I have are:
'18 pelicans protected 1st. They'll be in the playoffs so I'll get the pick. Should be in 15-20 range.
Brook Lopez
J Lin
'19, '20, '21 Nets firsts
LeVert
Rondae

At the trade deadline I'm thinking I'll trade Lopez out for a top 5-10 protected pick and a contract filler. And also trade Lin for a lottery protected pick. These would leave me with 3 '18 firsts in the 15-25 range.

To make it realistic. I think I'd have to make it a 3 team deal and do something like this:

BKN trades:
All 3 '18 1st
'19 unprotected 1st
LeVert (on track to average about 12-14 ppg in his second season, so a solid young 2 guard)
BKN gets:
#1 overall pick

Team selecting 1st trades:
#1 overall pick
Team gets:
'18 1st in the #8-12 range
One of BKNs '18 1sts in #15-25 range
BKN '19 unprotected 1st (will be a top 3-5 pick since my team is depleted and in rebuild mode)
LeVert

Third team trades:
'18 1st in #8-12 range
Third team gets:
Two of BKN '18 1sts in #15-25 range

I know it will take a monster offer to land a #1 overall pick of this quality. But a top 10 pick in a deep draft, another pick later in the draft which will still be a lottery caliber player given the depth of the draft, an unprotected 1st the next year that's a sure thing to be top 5 at worst, plus a solid young SG in LeVert is quite the haul for any player.

What do you guys think?


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[Rollo]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

Posted this a few days ago and didn't get an answer. I'm the Nets in yr2. Trying to find a way to set myself up to trade up for the #1 pick (Boston owns Brooklyns 2018 1st). The #1&2 rated prospects are sure fire perennial all stars, and the draft is pretty deep. Think of it as similar to how this years real life draft class is shaping up, just with the top 2 guys being maybe a little more hyped than Ball and Fultz.

The assets I have are:
'18 pelicans protected 1st. They'll be in the playoffs so I'll get the pick. Should be in 15-20 range.
Brook Lopez
J Lin
'19, '20, '21 Nets firsts
LeVert
Rondae

At the trade deadline I'm thinking I'll trade Lopez out for a top 5-10 protected pick and a contract filler. And also trade Lin for a lottery protected pick. These would leave me with 3 '18 firsts in the 15-25 range.

To make it realistic. I think I'd have to make it a 3 team deal and do something like this:

BKN trades:
All 3 '18 1st
'19 unprotected 1st
LeVert (on track to average about 12-14 ppg in his second season, so a solid young 2 guard)
BKN gets:
#1 overall pick

Team selecting 1st trades:
#1 overall pick
Team gets:
'18 1st in the #8-12 range
One of BKNs '18 1sts in #15-25 range
BKN '19 unprotected 1st (will be a top 3-5 pick since my team is depleted and in rebuild mode)
LeVert

Third team trades:
'18 1st in #8-12 range
Third team gets:
Two of BKN '18 1sts in #15-25 range

I know it will take a monster offer to land a #1 overall pick of this quality. But a top 10 pick in a deep draft, another pick later in the draft which will still be a lottery caliber player given the depth of the draft, an unprotected 1st the next year that's a sure thing to be top 5 at worst, plus a solid young SG in LeVert is quite the haul for any player.

What do you guys think?


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It depends on where those mid to late round picks land and how deep the draft is outside of the top 10. If your 3 mid-late round picks are in the 20's range, you may need to add another player for the 3rd team. I might even include that player and change the 3rd team to a 5-9 range 1st round pick. Maybe send LeVert to the third team, and the second player to the second team.

[dpower15]

NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

It depends on where those mid to late round picks land and how deep the draft is outside of the top 10. If your 3 mid-late round picks are in the 20's range, you may need to add another player for the 3rd team. I might even include that player and change the 3rd team to a 5-9 range 1st round pick. Maybe send LeVert to the third team, and the second player to the second team.

I was thinking something similar as another option. I can throw Rondae out there too in addition to LeVert to make it work.

The draft has the 2 super prospects at the top, 2-3 more guys that would be potential #1 picks any other year, and about 12-15 more guys who are solid lottery players. So really all the way up to about #20 is a pretty good value pick for this one.

Once it gets to the draft lotto I'll have a much better idea of how to make it work. But from a value perspective I want to make sure I'm on the right track.


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[Rollo]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

I was thinking something similar as another option. I can throw Rondae out there too in addition to LeVert to make it work.

The draft has the 2 super prospects at the top, 2-3 more guys that would be potential #1 picks any other year, and about 12-15 more guys who are solid lottery players. So really all the way up to about #20 is a pretty good value pick for this one.

Once it gets to the draft lotto I'll have a much better idea of how to make it work. But from a value perspective I want to make sure I'm on the right track.


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I would say your value is spot on if the depth is there. You're giving up plenty for the #1 pick imo, but I feel the third team isn't getting the type of return they may want to drop down from a middle of the lottery. I could see the 12th pick being traded down for like the 16th and 22nd, but the 8th pick will want something in the teens and late teens in return, and you'll need that 8th pick (or higher) to get the 1st.

Look at some of the top draft classes of the last 20 years (98, 03, 96) and see how this type of trade holds up (when looking at redrafts).

1998 - http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...998-nba-draft/

Using this list, you'd trade up to get Dirk. The team who would have drafted Dirk would trade down to 8 and get Larry Hughes, Al Harrington, or Jason Williams (of the White Chocolate variety). They'd also get a mid to late mid draft pick, and the pick the following season, and a player (Rondae or LeVert). I could see this potentially being acceptable, but I would still think you would need to make that 8th pick a 5th or 6th.

2003 - http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...003-nba-draft/

Using this one, you'd trade up for LeBron. 2003 wasn't as deep as 1998, but had more upside right away. No way would a team trade away the potential for LeBron for what you're offering in the above trade.

1996 - http://www.thesportster.com/basketba...996-nba-draft/

Using this one, you'd trade for Kobe Bryant. I feel this draft had a healthy mix of what made 1998 and 2003 so great. Right up front, it has the value of the 2003 draft, and the depth (if not more so) than the 1998 draft. 8, 9, 10 would be Jermaine O'neal, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and Ben Wallace. I'd still want a 5th/6th pick plus the rest, to move away from Kobe.

I think you'll need to do:

Nets receive 1st overall pick 2018

Team 2 receives top 6 pick 2018 (from team 3), best 1st round pick (of 3) available from Nets 2018, Nets unprotected (or top 3 protected depending on how good that second pick is) 2019, 2nd round pick (worst between Nets/2nd team) 2018 or 2019, Rondae

Team 3 receives remaining 2 1st round picks from Nets, 2nd round pick (best between Nets/2nd team) 2018 or 2019, LaVert

You throw in a second round pick regardless (either goes to 2nd or 3rd team), and Team 2 'might' throw in a second round pick (depending on if their pick is worse). I'd tend to do 2019 for the second rounder if you have it, otherwise do 2018 if you have it and don't have 2019.

It's a lot to give up for the 1st, but as you say, top 2 are superstar potential. I say its worth it. If you really want some more value for everything you're giving up, go for a 2020 (or whatever the latest possible year is) 1st round pick, top 10 or lottery protected. You either get a mid round potential 1st in a few years, or any 1st round unprotected the following. If you do this, get the pick from the 3rd team, and add in another 2nd if possible. You may need to do a couple trades in order to make all the pieces move smoothly.

[dpower15]

Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

I would say your value is spot on if the depth is there. You're giving up plenty for the #1 pick imo, but I feel the third team isn't getting the type of return they may want to drop down from a middle of the lottery. I could see the 12th pick being traded down for like the 16th and 22nd, but the 8th pick will want something in the teens and late teens in return, and you'll need that 8th pick (or higher) to get the 1st.



Look at some of the top draft classes of the last 20 years (98, 03, 96) and see how this type of trade holds up (when looking at redrafts).



1998 - http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...998-nba-draft/



Using this list, you'd trade up to get Dirk. The team who would have drafted Dirk would trade down to 8 and get Larry Hughes, Al Harrington, or Jason Williams (of the White Chocolate variety). They'd also get a mid to late mid draft pick, and the pick the following season, and a player (Rondae or LeVert). I could see this potentially being acceptable, but I would still think you would need to make that 8th pick a 5th or 6th.



2003 - http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...003-nba-draft/



Using this one, you'd trade up for LeBron. 2003 wasn't as deep as 1998, but had more upside right away. No way would a team trade away the potential for LeBron for what you're offering in the above trade.



1996 - http://www.thesportster.com/basketba...996-nba-draft/



Using this one, you'd trade for Kobe Bryant. I feel this draft had a healthy mix of what made 1998 and 2003 so great. Right up front, it has the value of the 2003 draft, and the depth (if not more so) than the 1998 draft. 8, 9, 10 would be Jermaine O'neal, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and Ben Wallace. I'd still want a 5th/6th pick plus the rest, to move away from Kobe.



I think you'll need to do:



Nets receive 1st overall pick 2018



Team 2 receives top 6 pick 2018 (from team 3), best 1st round pick (of 3) available from Nets 2018, Nets unprotected (or top 3 protected depending on how good that second pick is) 2019, 2nd round pick (worst between Nets/2nd team) 2018 or 2019, Rondae



Team 3 receives remaining 2 1st round picks from Nets, 2nd round pick (best between Nets/2nd team) 2018 or 2019, LaVert



You throw in a second round pick regardless (either goes to 2nd or 3rd team), and Team 2 'might' throw in a second round pick (depending on if their pick is worse). I'd tend to do 2019 for the second rounder if you have it, otherwise do 2018 if you have it and don't have 2019.

I like it. Really what I'm hoping to do is find a borderline playoff team to trade Lopez to for a top 5-10 protected pick similar to the Cousins trade. We'll see if a team like that with a need at C arises at the trade deadline. Then if something goes wrong and I get lucky and have a pick in the 6-13 range it makes the whole trade for #1 much easier.

That's a lot of things that would have to go right though and I'm letting everything play out as "sim" as possible. I'll keep you posted on how things go. Appreciate the help!


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