Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[catcher_0_3]

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My Pro Am team is gonna roll:

PG - Playmaker & 3s
SG - Pure Sharp
SF - 3 & D
PF - Point Sharp
C - Glass and Finisher

I like the layout but I feel like we are gonna look the same as 80% of the teams out there.

[infemous]

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I'm gonna be depending on what speed maxes out to for either:

6'6 PG - Slasher & Playmaker (but will reduce to 6'5 if speed is a lil low)

or

6'9 SF Slasher & Playmaker

I do really like the idea of having a slashing shot creator tho, so might make a 6'6 SG in that ilk.

[harryl]

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If it's like the previous games, you only have a certain number of upgrades to use; we won't be able to upgrade to the cap of every single attribute. So by leaving playmaking untouched and only upgrading passing, that leaves you with more upgrades to use on other attributes, so in a way you are nearly getting full benefit from it.

I understand that, and that this is how it is. But what I mean is that a Playmaker has very high caps for Passing and Ballhandling. And has lower caps for other ratings.

Just because one doesn't upgrade Ballhandling doesn't mean one can get a veey high cap in, say, Rebounding AND Defense.

So, to go back to the IRL examples, even someone who isn't incredibly diverse in skillset, like Joakim Noah, is not really replicatable, even with two archetypes.

But nothing new in that.

[franzis]

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My Pro Am team is gonna roll:

PG - Playmaker & 3s
SG - Pure Sharp
SF - 3 & D
PF - Point Sharp
C - Glass and Finisher

I like the layout but I feel like we are gonna look the same as 80% of the teams out there.

What do you mean with point sharp?

I understood that PFs and Cs cannot have playmaking as primary archetype

[Housh123]

Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

My Pro Am team is gonna roll:



PG - Playmaker & 3s

SG - Pure Sharp

SF - 3 & D

PF - Point Sharp

C - Glass and Finisher



I like the layout but I feel like we are gonna look the same as 80% of the teams out there.

I have a feeling that a 4 shooter one rebounder team on this years game may not be ideal. They nerfed dribbling and screens idk how all that shooting will fare against elite defensive teams. Your gonna need people that can get buckets in any way


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[catcher_0_3]

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What do you mean with point sharp?

I understood that PFs and Cs cannot have playmaking as primary archetype

I mean that I'm gonna make a Point Forward / Sharp SF and he will just be our PF based on size.

[catcher_0_3]

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I have a feeling that a 4 shooter one rebounder team on this years game may not be ideal. They nerfed dribbling and screens idk how all that shooting will fare against elite defensive teams. Your gonna need people that can get buckets in any way


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Maybe. I just think the most efficient way to score in basketball in general are 3s and dunks and that's what we're gonna try to do. Movement and passing. Spurs & Hawks style attack.

[TheFinalEvent97]

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It looks like Pure Defenders are the only build that gets max speed+acceleration+vertical+strength, plus they get pretty good dunking and rebounding. 4 HOF Badges with Defensive Stopper, Rim Protector, Chasedown Artist and Charge Card. If the athleticism caps are similar to 2K17 a 6'10 260lbs would have high 60's to low 70's for speed,acceleration and vertical with 85+ strength.

[Housh123]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

What do you mean with point sharp?



I understood that PFs and Cs cannot have playmaking as primary archetype

They'll run a tall SF at the 4?


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[Rockie_Fresh88]

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It looks like Pure Defenders are the only build that gets max speed+acceleration+vertical+strength, plus they get pretty good dunking and rebounding. 4 HOF Badges with Defensive Stopper, Rim Protector, Chasedown Artist and Charge Card. If the athleticism caps are similar to 2K17 a 6'10 260lbs would have high 60's to low 70's for speed,acceleration and vertical with 85+ strength.

Which is why I can't wait to see the gold and silver badges . Thinking I may go pure LDD or LDD/ playmaker for my SF.

[TheFinalEvent97]

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Which is why I can't wait to see the gold and silver badges . Thinking I may go pure LDD or LDD/ playmaker for my SF.

I assume one of the silver badges is Posterizer considering Slasher+Defender gets HOF Posterizer. Slasher+Defender also gets HOF Acrobat and HOF OMFB so you have a better chance of getting steals and if you do good luck catching up.

[illwill10]

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Some Dual Archetypes go together really well and some don't. It makes sense. Like Shot Creater/Playmaker because it had some similar ratings caps similar. But some don't like Defender/3pt. A lot of people want to do 3&D, but I don't think that would be a good build to do. From the videos, you will either max at 60-70 3pt, or you're going to have average defense. I think it will be better as a LDD/Playmaker or LDD/Slasher.


When it comes to a Sharpshooter, I think it doesn't mesh well with most builds. You are better off as a Pure Sharp or maybe Sharp/Shotcreator. it doesn't mesh well with Athletic builds because Athletic builds have naturally low 3pt caps.

[ViolenceFight]

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Some Dual Archetypes go together really well and some don't. It makes sense. Like Shot Creater/Playmaker because it had some similar ratings caps similar. But some don't like Defender/3pt. A lot of people want to do 3&D, but I don't think that would be a good build to do. From the videos, you will either max at 60-70 3pt, or you're going to have average defense. I think it will be better as a LDD/Playmaker or LDD/Slasher.


When it comes to a Sharpshooter, I think it doesn't mesh well with most builds. You are better off as a Pure Sharp or maybe Sharp/Shotcreator. it doesn't mesh well with Athletic builds because Athletic builds have naturally low 3pt caps.

That's the thing. I think as long as they don't cave in and start patching like crazy if people get upset, this game will feel balanced.

If it's balanced, and they leave it alone, I think the good players will be guys that play to their skillsets. What I mean is, you might have to step back and introspectively ask: "What do I do?", and get something that fits your style instead of jumping on YouTube and homogenizing with the rest of the crowd. And there's so many options that you should be able to find what suits you best.

I predict a lot of crying. I saw a thing on twitter claiming 60 in 3pt would equate to like, 25% wide open this year. I think the days of big inside scorers dropping 3s all game may be coming to a close.

It's funny. People wanted dual archetypes to not feel like a "Role" player, but they might actually make you more niche.

[Goffs]

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I know 2k is going for balance but shouldn't all of the hybrids have at least one HOF badge? I can see people only going for the hybrids with HOF badges while leaving others alone.

[infemous]

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anyone seen screens of the actual my player attributes yet??