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  • hyretic
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    • Sep 2016
    • 199

    #226
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by gijimbo12
    I'll admit that my interpretation of those numbers could be completely off. But, if they are from 1-25, I assumed a 25 would be a 99 rating in the attribute and then worked my way down from there.

    Hope there is a more balanced way to do this. I want to be able to make a two-way player, not a no-way player.
    The way MyCareer works is that upgrades in the early game are worth like +4, whereas later they're +1. And that's just the upgrade amount, we have no idea what the base attribute is for the archetype. I don't think it's possible to even semi-accurately predict an attribute cap by looking at the amount of upgrade blocks. We're just going to have to wait for the prelude.

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    • gijimbo12
      Rookie
      • Jul 2009
      • 78

      #227
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by hyretic
      The way MyCareer works is that upgrades in the early game are worth like +4, whereas later they're +1. And that's just the upgrade amount, we have no idea what the base attribute is for the archetype. I don't think it's possible to even semi-accurately predict an attribute cap by looking at the amount of upgrade blocks. We're just going to have to wait for the prelude.


      That's fair! I just wish there was more info out there so I could better prepare for this.

      Guess we will just have to wait and see.

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      • ViolenceFight
        MVP
        • Jun 2013
        • 1141

        #228
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by gijimbo12
        That's fair! I just wish there was more info out there so I could better prepare for this.

        Guess we will just have to wait and see.
        I did a break down of how to guesstimate attributes a page or so back. 25 blocks will more than likely be 94-95 rating in that category

        Defender/3pt gets 12-13 blocks in 3pt shooting. Depending on position, height, weight I'd say mid to high 70s in that category. Definitely 70s though. That's passable as a shooter. If they get catch and shoot that should be fine to hit wide open 3s.

        Your ballhandling maxes at like, 8 though, so you're strictly going to be cuts or catch and shoot
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        • Ray Vibes
          Elite Allstar
          • Mar 2011
          • 519

          #229
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by gijimbo12
          That's fair! I just wish there was more info out there so I could better prepare for this.

          Guess we will just have to wait and see.
          Why does Friday feel like its so far away?

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          • nyk_fatboy
            Pro
            • Dec 2013
            • 708

            #230
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            im torn between rebounding/athletic and post/rebounder
            Last edited by nyk_fatboy; 09-03-2017, 05:24 PM.

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            • sk8board
              Pro
              • Nov 2016
              • 572

              #231
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by killaxxbearsxxx
              In 2k17 I'm pretty sure I created over 25 myplayers trying to find what works well for me and in tandem with my less flexible friends. It worked out because I enjoyed playing as a lower overall. It made things more interesting. But with this year having everything tied to your overall, I think I'm gonna run with only a couple

              1. Slasher/Shot creator- 6'6 SG- This is who I am at heart. I'm not really a three point guy. I want to be able to attack the rim and finish or get my fouls, and also be able to deploy a crafty mid range game if I need to.

              2. Rebounding/Athletic Finisher- 6'10 PF- This build still gets hof putback king and hof hustle rebounder (I think. I seen it for Center not Power forward) which is just lovely. I want to be able to crash the boards hard but still be able to rim run and roll hard. There's a big chance you'll be able to do that as a pure glass but this combination makes the most sense to me. I don't want to feel like I'm doing things my player shouldn't be able to do. Power forward so I'm not guarding giants all day. 6'10 so I can guard them if I need to.

              3. Pure Sharpshooter- ?'? SG- Still gotta be able to space for my teammates sometimes.
              2k bout to make a ton of money off u

              25 players with only 7 archetypes. Now they said 189

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              • Ray Vibes
                Elite Allstar
                • Mar 2011
                • 519

                #232
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by nyk_fatboy
                im torn between rebounding/athletic and post/rebounder
                Rebounding/Athletic sounds like a good option, that's one i didn't think of.

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                • illwill10
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 19827

                  #233
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  After looking at the Attribute Cap list, I'm leaning towards a Shot Creating Defender SG. Should have a 85-90 Mid Range, 80-87 Speed, 75-80 Ball Handle, and good enough Defensive skills
                  Not sure which type of Big man I will create though

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                  • TheFinalEvent97
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 1519

                    #234
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    I think max athleticism builds will be alot rarer this year, any build that has Shot Creator, Sharpshooter, Post Scorer or Rebounder as a Pure or in a Dual archetype will have less than max athleticism. Online play "usually" is an uptempo, run&gun style of play so it will be interesting to see if that stays the same or the game slows downba bit.

                    As someone who loves defense I've decided on a Big and Perimeter Build, for the big its going to be a Pure Defender somewhere between 6'9-6'11, i mainly played my PP like a Slasher offensively in 2K17 and judging by the caps dunking will be reasonably good plus having great Athleticism.
                    For my perimeter build im going to be a 6'7 PG Slasher Primary Defending Secondary, i had trouble in 2k17 guarding 1's with my 6'7 playmaker so the boost to defending will be nice, plus this build gets HOF Posterizer, OMFB and Acrobat.
                    Last edited by TheFinalEvent97; 09-03-2017, 08:25 PM.

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                    • ViolenceFight
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1141

                      #235
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by TheFinalEvent97
                      I think max athleticism builds will be alot rarer this year, any build that has Shot Creator, Sharpshooter, Post Scorer or Rebounder as a Pure or in a Dual archetype will have less than max athleticism. Online play "usually" is an uptempo, run&gun style of play so it will be interesting to see if that stays the same or the game slows downba bit.

                      As someone who loves defense I've decided on a Big and Perimeter Build, for the big its going to be a Pure Defender somewhere between 6'9-6'11, i mainly played my PP like a Slasher offensively in 2K17 and judging by the caps dunking will be reasonably good plus having great Athleticism.
                      For my perimeter build im going to be a 6'7 PG Slasher Primary Defending Secondary, i had trouble in 2k17 guarding 1's with my 6'7 playmaker so the boost to defending will be nice, plus this build gets HOF Posterizer, OMFB and Acrobat.
                      My thoughts exactly, Defenders, Slashers, And Rebounder are athletic builds. I expect a lot of shot creator/3pt mixes, and that should slow the pace. In theory you'll actually have mismatches with 2 similar sized guys. I'm really having a hard time touching 2k17 right now. I need to experiment with this stuff now.
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                      • The Gym Reaper
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 438

                        #236
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by ViolenceFight
                        I'm really having a hard time touching 2k17 right now. I need to experiment with this stuff now.
                        Who you telling. Already traded mine in.
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                        • Suns of Gunz
                          Just started!
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 1

                          #237
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          What would you use for a Baron Davis type of build??

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                          • ClassicMan
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 344

                            #238
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by nyk_fatboy
                            im torn between rebounding/athletic and post/rebounder
                            Me too[emoji848]

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                            • ryocoola31
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 135

                              #239
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by Suns of Gunz
                              What would you use for a Baron Davis type of build??
                              Seems like he would be playmaker primary with slashing secondary at least in his prime. I am sure you could switch the order as well

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                              • franzis
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1451

                                #240
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Something that would really help in deciding and developing your build would be the total number of available upgrades that we can get, via both VC (yellow caps) and progression (white caps).


                                As in 2k17, it's not likely that you can max-out everything, so I need to understand how many upgrades I can spend and how priotise them.


                                Any idea about that?
                                Or maybe do you remember how many upgrades we had in 2k17 before reaching 95 ovr?

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