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  • 8KB24
    MVP
    • Jun 2012
    • 2106

    #271
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by franzis
    You can use post scoring as a SF as much you can as a PG.

    You have a point about the mismatch (even if 90% of SFs online don't have a clue about how defending the post and have default strength), but I would prefer to make him 6'8"/6'9" without huge penalties on attributes because of the height.
    I can use it more since I will be going against CP3, Kyrie, Wall etc instead of KD, Kawhi, Butler, Hayward

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    • TripleJay_X
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 289

      #272
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Sounds great, what archetypes i need for Lebron James ? Are 2 even enough ?

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      • infemous
        MVP
        • Nov 2009
        • 1568

        #273
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by 8KB24
        I can use it more since I will be going against CP3, Kyrie, Wall etc instead of KD, Kawhi, Butler, Hayward

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        Ya I had a 6'5 PG in 2k17 with boosted strength and a couple points in post control and i was posting up and spinning past most other PGs.

        Issue was always then being pushed out to SG or SF coz I was a lil taller and being absolute mince meat.
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        • 8KB24
          MVP
          • Jun 2012
          • 2106

          #274
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          That online? I am talking only and purely offline

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          • Rockie_Fresh88
            Lockdown Defender
            • Oct 2011
            • 9621

            #275
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by TripleJay_X
            Sounds great, what archetypes i need for Lebron James ? Are 2 even enough ?
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            • Trent Booty
              MVP
              • Jan 2015
              • 2572

              #276
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              I recently bought a PS4 for MLB The Show, but will be getting 2K on PS4 after 3 straight years of getting it on Xbox. I was gonna get it on Xbox at first as most of my friends are on Xbox but I mainly play with my brother and a couple of our friends who just sold their Xbox's for PS4s (also part of the reason I bought a PS4, so I could still play with my brother while also playing on Xbox), so I'm trying to figure out what build I'm gonna go with this year, as last year I had 2 different players, a 6'5 sharpshooter SG and a 7'3 athletic finisher C. Last year my main guy was the SG but for whatever reason I absolutely sucked online with him. In MyCareer games I could shoot like 50% from 3 on HoF but online in ProAm/Park I probably shot around 25% and this was with a maxed out guy.

              This year, my brother is making his usual playmaking PG (not sure what his secondary archetype will be yet) and I'm not sure if I want to go wing player or big. We have a third friend we will likely play a lot with and I'm not sure what he will be at all. I sort of want to be a 6'9/6'10 SF, but I also really want to make a 7'3 C.

              I want to make a guy with at least one of the archetypes LDD, as I really want to be crazy athletic, I struggle when my guy is slow. I've been saying since I stopped playing 2K17 that I would make a LDD this year and now that we get duel archetypes I feel like I have no excuse not to this year. So maybe LDD/Slasher SF or a Rim Protector/Athletic Finsher C.

              What do you guys think? Any build you suggest I should think about? I don't want to be a playmaker or sharpshooter.

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              • shawnydee
                Pro
                • Nov 2012
                • 839

                #277
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                im still wondering what to create to make a Shaq (Lakers 00-04) im torn between

                Pure post scorer: HOF: Dropstep, post spin, up and under, bruiser. Gold: brick wall and 4 others.

                Post scoring/driving and finishing: HOF: post spin. Gold: drop step, relentless finisher, up and under, bruiser + 5 five other

                Post scoring/rebounding: HOF brick wall, bruiser Gold: up and under,post spin,drop step + 4 other.

                i checked on 2k17 shaq stats and badges, he has hof brick wall and bruiser, post scorer gold badges, standing dunks and layup 99, strenght 99, post hook in the 90s post fadeway is low, rebounding in the 90 (Lakers) low 80(heat)

                what you guys think would be the best build with good strenght but good finihing ability like he has.

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                • franzis
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1451

                  #278
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by 8KB24
                  I can use it more since I will be going against CP3, Kyrie, Wall etc instead of KD, Kawhi, Butler, Hayward

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                  Ok I tought that you would use him online.


                  Offline your point about having him as a point guard makes totally sense.

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                  • ph33
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 3261

                    #279
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by shawnydee
                    im still wondering what to create to make a Shaq (Lakers 00-04) im torn between

                    Pure post scorer: HOF: Dropstep, post spin, up and under, bruiser. Gold: brick wall and 4 others.

                    Post scoring/driving and finishing: HOF: post spin. Gold: drop step, relentless finisher, up and under, bruiser + 5 five other

                    Post scoring/rebounding: HOF brick wall, bruiser Gold: up and under,post spin,drop step + 4 other.

                    i checked on 2k17 shaq stats and badges, he has hof brick wall and bruiser, post scorer gold badges, standing dunks and layup 99, strenght 99, post hook in the 90s post fadeway is low, rebounding in the 90 (Lakers) low 80(heat)

                    what you guys think would be the best build with good strenght but good finihing ability like he has.
                    Shaq, like LeBron and many of other HOFs listed, are once-in-a-generation players that you can't really create a replica of all their great skills.

                    But for someone like Shaq, your best bet is probably post scorer and finisher. But I don't think you could replicate his athleticism or his passing or his rebounding...you'll probably be able to do well on your own anyways unless someone else has got the rebounding badges.

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                    • shawnydee
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 839

                      #280
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by ph33
                      Shaq, like LeBron and many of other HOFs listed, are once-in-a-generation players that you can't really create a replica of all their great skills.

                      But for someone like Shaq, your best bet is probably post scorer and finisher. But I don't think you could replicate his athleticism or his passing or his rebounding...you'll probably be able to do well on your own anyways unless someone else has got the rebounding badges.
                      yeah i know just tryna find the good balance of his scoring,strenght and rebounding

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                      • The Gym Reaper
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 438

                        #281
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Random:

                        What was the difference between a tall playmaker PG and point forward SF last year?

                        Any advantages/disadvantages or was it just a label?
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                        • infemous
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1568

                          #282
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                          Random:

                          What was the difference between a tall playmaker PG and point forward SF last year?

                          Any advantages/disadvantages or was it just a label?
                          tall playmaker PG would get rinsed by smaller PGs due to lateral quickness difference.

                          point forward depending on size was more often than not a mismatch with slower SF builds with less defensive deficiencies. (tbh my point forward is an elite defender with maxed out standard 70s defensive stats)

                          also as point forward your jumper wasn't as nice but you could get contact dunks and again depending on height and all that standing layup and dunk was pretty nice.

                          i think a major difference is being a PG playmaker you touch the ball more frequently and can set up plays, change assignments etc. while as a SF you are more at the mercy of your teammates and can be frozen out during walk on.

                          also during offline mycareer playing as a SF you had to literally go get the ball because they never ran plays for your player, while as a PG you have the rock all the time.
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                          • ph33
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 3261

                            #283
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by shawnydee
                            yeah i know just tryna find the good balance of his scoring,strenght and rebounding
                            I think the scoring and strength would have to go first. Your size and wit will get you rebounds.

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                            • shawnydee
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 839

                              #284
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by ph33
                              I think the scoring and strength would have to go first. Your size and wit will get you rebounds.
                              i was leaning toward his real height and weight or should i go 7'3.
                              the post/rebounding, get good strenght rebounding vertical and decent post offense. but layups takes a hit
                              Last edited by shawnydee; 09-04-2017, 04:12 PM.

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                              • 8KB24
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 2106

                                #285
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Shaq was a beast because he had nimble feet and was actually really fast. I'd go Post/athletic or reverse depending on how the attributes are allocated.

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