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  • JustCallMeSleepy
    Rookie
    • Dec 2015
    • 158

    #1771
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by Mbunn1993
    So I'm looking to create a playmaking first guard. I'm a pass first or drive type of player but I like to be able to hit the open 3. Would I go pure playmaker,or playmaker/slasher? Are any of these able to contact dunk? What position/height/weight?


    Any build with the play making primary is unable to get contact dunks.


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    • franzis
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 1451

      #1772
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
      Any build with the play making primary is unable to get contact dunks.


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      Non true

      Slashing point forward (my build) get big men contact dunks

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      • JustCallMeSleepy
        Rookie
        • Dec 2015
        • 158

        #1773
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by franzis
        Non true



        Slashing point forward (my build) get big men contact dunks


        I was referring to driving contact dunks since he was asking for a pg, but fine.


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        • franzis
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 1451

          #1774
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by JustCallMeSleepy
          I was referring to driving contact dunks since he was asking for a pg, but fine.


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          Oh fine... if he wants to be PG then you are right

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          • garyraymond23
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 415

            #1775
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by Mbunn1993
            So I'm looking to create a playmaking first guard. I'm a pass first or drive type of player but I like to be able to hit the open 3. Would I go pure playmaker,or playmaker/slasher? Are any of these able to contact dunk? What position/height/weight?
            There won't really be a great archetype for that.

            Your best bet is to probably go primary slashing, secondary shot creating (or playmaking).

            shot creating slasher gets, at 6'4 for example:

            92 driving dunk
            90 contact dunk
            83 ball control
            95 speed
            83 speed with ball
            92 vertical
            82 mid ranges
            only 70 3 tho

            My little brother wanted a similar build to what you wanted, this is the build he started with, he's loved it - says it's similar to a young Kobe.

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            • kdurantmvp
              Pro
              • Mar 2012
              • 527

              #1776
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Shot creator/post scoring


              Melo type build


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              • AshamanCarnage
                Rookie
                • Jul 2006
                • 1252

                #1777
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by garyraymond23
                There won't really be a great archetype for that.

                Your best bet is to probably go primary slashing, secondary shot creating (or playmaking).

                shot creating slasher gets, at 6'4 for example:

                92 driving dunk
                90 contact dunk
                83 ball control
                95 speed
                83 speed with ball
                92 vertical
                82 mid ranges
                only 70 3 tho

                My little brother wanted a similar build to what you wanted, this is the build he started with, he's loved it - says it's similar to a young Kobe.
                Everything he wants to do, I currently can accomplish with my 6'4 Slashing Playmaker (primary playmaking). Currently 89 overall and am shooting 40% from 3 point land in the park and higher in Career games. While I can't specifically buy contact dunk packages, I still dunk on people often enough.

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                • garyraymond23
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 415

                  #1778
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by AshamanCarnage
                  Everything he wants to do, I currently can accomplish with my 6'4 Slashing Playmaker (primary playmaking). Currently 89 overall and am shooting 40% from 3 point land in the park and higher in Career games. While I can't specifically buy contact dunk packages, I still dunk on people often enough.
                  Don't disagree with you, just suggested the other build for the contact dunk attribute, your build probably maxes out around 75ish for contact dunks I'm assuming

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                  • 49UNCFan
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2460

                    #1779
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by garyraymond23
                    There won't really be a great archetype for that.

                    Your best bet is to probably go primary slashing, secondary shot creating (or playmaking).

                    shot creating slasher gets, at 6'4 for example:

                    92 driving dunk
                    90 contact dunk
                    83 ball control
                    95 speed
                    83 speed with ball
                    92 vertical
                    82 mid ranges
                    only 70 3 tho

                    My little brother wanted a similar build to what you wanted, this is the build he started with, he's loved it - says it's similar to a young Kobe.
                    I'm running that setup and I give people fits at a 87 overall. Defensively, rebounding, and off the dribble.

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                    • ViolenceFight
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1141

                      #1780
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by garyraymond23
                      Don't disagree with you, just suggested the other build for the contact dunk attribute, your build probably maxes out around 75ish for contact dunks I'm assuming
                      The flip maxes at 85 contact dunk. Can confirm.

                      Playmaking Slasher, 6'4, SG. Need one last bar in 3s, but currently at 66 open 3. Can green and hit. Currently pull about 3-4 a game and hit at least 2 of them.

                      I'm gun shy after last year, but I will pull most open looks without hesitation this year. It will top off at 68/69, so he's not a 3 point monster, but it's respectable to the point that If you don't step up, I will step into one.

                      Get plenty of posters, good speed and handling, and nice rebounding attributes.

                      If he's not looking for a ton of 3s. And uses its strengths to an advantage, it's a fantastic build.

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                      • Chas3
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 120

                        #1781
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        I asked this question when the game first came out but the caps weren't announced, so I'll ask again. Which build is the best Westbrook build? Like that copies his game the most.

                        Originally posted by ViolenceFight
                        Playmaking Slasher, 6'4, SG. Need one last bar in 3s, but currently at 66 open 3. Can green and hit. Currently pull about 3-4 a game and hit at least 2 of them.
                        How is the midrange with that build? And are you playing any pro am?
                        Last edited by Chas3; 10-11-2017, 10:23 PM.

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                        • k2real
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 166

                          #1782
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Ran into a glass cleaner primary slasher secondary my goodness these guys are beast. single handily out rebounded a 7"3 post scorer and a 6 10" sharp. You'll win park games with this guy.


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                          • garyraymond23
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 415

                            #1783
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            I think I've officially changed my mind on the whole Speed vs Strength concept when it comes to big men.

                            I played a 7'3 340 lb Pure Post Scorer and he's the only person that has ABSOLUTELY WRECKED me this year. (Given, he had 5 Gold Badges compared to my 1, but still).

                            He was just as fast, if not faster at times (he could keep up with me as well) every time running up and down the floor which makes absolutely no sense to me?

                            He was tall enough to out rebound me, bump me a little with his strength and get position - I'd get a good shot contest (perfectly timed it) and it would still go in.

                            He went 7-7 on "good shot contest" vs me, which was just frustrating lol like what else can I do? I stole 2 entry passes, once from him and had 3 help defense blocks.

                            I just simply couldn't stop him in a 1v1 scenario.

                            I won't comment on PG/SG/SF, but I'm now convinced that if you're making a big man, you should go near the max height/weight.

                            This dude was unstoppable, had a park record of 290-16. I played him 3 times (won the 2nd time in my revenge game only because I shot 9-9 and his teammates messed up) but he wrecked me the 3rd game again.

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                            • k2real
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 166

                              #1784
                              Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by garyraymond23
                              I think I've officially changed my mind on the whole Speed vs Strength concept when it comes to big men.



                              I played a 7'3 340 lb Pure Post Scorer and he's the only person that has ABSOLUTELY WRECKED me this year. (Given, he had 5 Gold Badges compared to my 1, but still).



                              He was just as fast, if not faster at times (he could keep up with me as well) every time running up and down the floor which makes absolutely no sense to me?



                              He was tall enough to out rebound me, bump me a little with his strength and get position - I'd get a good shot contest (perfectly timed it) and it would still go in.



                              He went 7-7 on "good shot contest" vs me, which was just frustrating lol like what else can I do? I stole 2 entry passes, once from him and had 3 help defense blocks.



                              I just simply couldn't stop him in a 1v1 scenario.



                              I won't comment on PG/SG/SF, but I'm now convinced that if you're making a big man, you should go near the max height/weight.



                              This dude was unstoppable, had a park record of 290-16. I played him 3 times (won the 2nd time in my revenge game only because I shot 9-9 and his teammates messed up) but he wrecked me the 3rd game again.


                              U need a rim protector gold to tame him or you need to get in good position to get a steal. If he's in the standing dunk range you're cooked unless you're just as tall as him


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                              • de5m0n
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 996

                                #1785
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by k2real
                                U need a rim protector gold to tame him or you need to get in good position to get a steal. If he's in the standing dunk range you're cooked unless you're just as tall as him


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                                just as tall doesn't work if you are not rim protector. 2k will just push u away and he will get the dunk. if you can't deny position then you will have a bad time. On the flip side, they are poor defenders and you can do the same to him on the other side. I'm not even a post archetype and i still cook almost every1 in the post. back down back down drop set poster. (im pure athlete)

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