Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[Kleinevos]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Post first is pointless.m.

I disagree.



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[AshamanCarnage]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

My slashing shot Creator is too inconsistent with the mid-range game without HOF badges

Pure slasher is worthless due to NONE type of shot.

My pure athletic buddy is also getting frustrated now. We played a game in team tonight where every contact he got he was spammed out of it.

Just a suggestion but it seems you guys may just need to practice your mid-range game and you’ll start seeing other things fall into place.

I mostly use finishers and it was a complete game-changer when I finally got my shot down from mid-range. I try to stick mostly to catch and shoot, just be weary of those passes that make you stumble or you juggle, those always seem to brick no matter what for me.

[shawnydee]

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Unlocked midrange deadeye hof last night on my 6'9 KD sharpshooting shotcreator. Could hit heavily contested shot at a good rate i would say if the release was good.
Will work on tireless scorer hof tonite maybe.
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[shawnydee]

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Finally unlocked Tireless Hof ill see how it goes

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[shawnydee]

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Been a few days i started playing with the shot meter off i feel like im able to shoot more consistently cause im able to time my release better. Sometimes i get slightly early or late but doesnt happen that often. Feels good to get up court and pull a off dribble 3 like im a pure sharp [emoji23]

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[acetheredcomet]

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I have been running LDD/ shot creator SF since the beginning.

The positives:

Defense is good along with the athletic ability.
Rebounds and dunks are ok and the post game is ok.

Negatives:

With a 70 middie, I am inconsistent, good releases constantly bricking, and. 60 3pt is a no go. 72 max ball handle means no sig dribble combos, contact dunks are way too infrequent on smaller players. The terrible tendency to go for a outback lay up instead of a dunk is infuriating. Getting called on way to many fouls for good defense, especially the stupid auto animations on chase downs.

I tried defense playmaking but the shooting was even worse.

I hope 2k19 fixes the open shots bricking on good releases with a 70-80 open mid range shot

[TheDominator273]

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I have been running LDD/ shot creator SF since the beginning.

The positives:

Defense is good along with the athletic ability.
Rebounds and dunks are ok and the post game is ok.

Negatives:

With a 70 middie, I am inconsistent, good releases constantly bricking, and. 60 3pt is a no go. 72 max ball handle means no sig dribble combos, contact dunks are way too infrequent on smaller players. The terrible tendency to go for a outback lay up instead of a dunk is infuriating. Getting called on way to many fouls for good defense, especially the stupid auto animations on chase downs.

I tried defense playmaking but the shooting was even worse.

I hope 2k19 fixes the open shots bricking on good releases with a 70-80 open mid range shot

60 3 is plenty for open corner 3s, especially coming from someone who has Dimer. I was about a 40% 3 point shooter with my 2 Way Athletic Finisher Center who has 58 open 3

[thevardano]

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I think current system is good but I would like them to add little touches. For example, my build does not allow me to have Dimer badge, but even as a Center I'm best playmaker in my team. I would to be able to earn at least Bronze Dimer badge as I'm proving in online games that I'm very good at assisting. I don't say we should be able to get everything and by any archetypes, but there should be some smart algorithms, which would allow to some builds get badges (not game-changing ones).

So, as Sharpshooting Post Scorer I want to be able to get bronze Dimer badge or bronze Pick Pocket badge if my games proves that I deserve this. Also some Point Guards can have bronze Rip Protector badge as a Pure Sharps if they really good at it. Once again it should very deep and well thought algorithm which can't be exploited.

[Yesh2kdone]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

I think current system is good but I would like them to add little touches. For example, my build does not allow me to have Dimer badge, but even as a Center I'm best playmaker in my team. I would to be able to earn at least Bronze Dimer badge as I'm proving in online games that I'm very good at assisting. I don't say we should be able to get everything and by any archetypes, but there should be some smart algorithms, which would allow to some builds get badges (not game-changing ones).

So, as Sharpshooting Post Scorer I want to be able to get bronze Dimer badge or bronze Pick Pocket badge if my games proves that I deserve this. Also some Point Guards can have bronze Rip Protector badge as a Pure Sharps if they really good at it. Once again it should very deep and well thought algorithm which can't be exploited.

Hustle rebounder also has a dimer component to it this year, so any passes kicked out after a board, boosts shooting too.

[loso_34]

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Unlocked midrange deadeye hof last night on my 6'9 KD sharpshooting shotcreator. Could hit heavily contested shot at a good rate i would say if the release was good.
Will work on tireless scorer hof tonite maybe.
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i can never get the mid range dead eye badge to activate.

i got it up to gold via practise but rarely see it in games.

ive started changing my shot in mid air lately since i got gold acrobat and started to finish better in traffic. if only i knew this sooner lol.

[howardphillips214]

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Been running on my pure athletic 7' center. Man, i tell you this guy plays completely different with badges. I've got 2 centers: a 7'3 300lb slashing rebounder and the athletic is 261 default weight. There's no real comparison to me. While the slashing rebounder probably has the highest upside, I'll take the disadvantages for more fun.

My speed isn't even maxed yet and I'm still hauling *** compared to most bigs. The shot goes up, and if I'm guarding a stretch, I'm down at the basket by the time they inbound and my man is at half court trying to catch up. And that's with a 50 off ball speed. I need like 40,000 vc to get from a 50 off ball speed to a 60 tho.

Only have posterizer silver and relentless silver but I'm already making pretty difficult layups either under the basket or driving. Honestly, i have a pure slasher with the HOF badges and he doesn't finish like this guy. I've already completely bodied some people with animations i never got on any of my guards.

I'm convinced that you can buy all the contact packages but height dictates which animations you get. While my guards will "climb the ladder" a lot, this center gets the truck animations. Even my 6'10 athletic buddy was saying he'd never gotten those animations to trigger. I can only imagine this guy with HOF.

As far as going up against 7'3s: i played a TEAM game at PF where they had 2 7'3s BOTH of them slashing rebounders and they both stood in the paint on offense. On the other end he was sitting in the paint on defense too.

I DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE REBOUND TILL THEY QUIT IN THE 4TH. My man had like 12 rebounds to my goose egg but i had 25 points and like 4 blocks. They couldn't score very efficiently around the basket because we weren't doubling and only playing hands up. They would get some of those pump fake shots or pass to the other big, or they would get the offensive rebound. But i had like 3of my blocks on one possession. Bit if they scored at all, both bigs were constantly running basket to basket and if it's a race of 94 feet, I'm burying them in transition.

Also, I've been pleasantly surprised by his jumper. Out of all my slashers he's the most consistent with the worst rating at 58. My others are 59, 64, and I'll even throw in my slashing shot creator with a 75!!!

My shot creator is so inconsistent,that's why i won't run on him anymore. The pull up game got nerfed in the mid sometime this year i swear. I was banging with my favorite animation then one day i had to change my pull up AND my jumper and even when i went back it wasn't the same. I used to MURDER teams with this guy on the park and in walk on. 30+ in walk on was normal if i was playing off ball. I can still get there, at i had one last night. But they're so few and far between that I've created 6 different players trying to enhance the aspects of his game that i feel have been lacking. Mainly finishing around the rim was what i wanted to focus on and EVEN WITHOUT MAX BADGES MY 7 FOOTER FINISHES THE BEST.

I can't harp on this enough. Height should NOT dictate how well a person finishes or plays defense in the sense of completely out weighing the benefits of ratings/badges. I forgot to say he's my best perimeter defender as well with a 45 lateral quickness. I've found when getting matched up with a wing trying to run the 4 i can completely shut them down. They can drive past me, but without chase down even(just got it bronze last night) i was smacking that **** to the 4th row. I don't even get blocks like that on my 7'3 and HE'S got silver rim protector.

Hustle silver is also amazing coupled with my vertical. His vertical is only 66 but man... My dude will jump out of the gym to snag. My 6'10 buddy consistently beats me on the glass but I'm boxing bigs out to the 3pt line a lot. I can seal off anyone and i get 4 more bars in his rebounding. If i could get to a 75(think I'd have to be like a 96 tho... Lol) I'd be a monster.



Don't let anyone tell you that these dual archetypes are even worth it. If you can focus on one aspect of the game and get REALLY good with it, you can always have fun. My slashing shot creator can hit any shot from the floor, but he's not GREAT at anything. If I'd have made him a pure i could speed boost and have 99mid and all HOF badges to make him a nightmare in the pick and roll. If I'd have known finishing was ONLY going to be possible at the 4 or 5 this year, since you just get the most opportunities, I'd never have made all my guards.

Game still has it's hang ups, but I've actually been having fun again.

In team we've been running 2 sharps and 2 athletics with a whatever at point and have been doing considerably better than before. Most of the games we've played have been me off ball instead of point, even tho it's my team. I'll run point in walk on, but im not great in the half court. I'm better than anyone i know at running a 7seconds or less offense. But if we get bogged down by teams getting back every play I'll struggle.

This guy essentially makes all our teams instantly faster. If I'm not getting the boards by guarding a stretch, i can trust my PF to clean up. If HE'S out and I'm playing the paint it's curtains. Cuz i WILL beat my man down court is he scores, so i can go bucket for bucket with most Cs. And if he's a stretch he better be deadly with the pick and pop. As long as i can remember to stay glued and not help in the paint(my biggest flaw so far on this guy) it's over.

[shawnydee]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

i can never get the mid range dead eye badge to activate.

i got it up to gold via practise but rarely see it in games.

ive started changing my shot in mid air lately since i got gold acrobat and started to finish better in traffic. if only i knew this sooner lol.

Needs to be standing contested shots near free throw line area

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[howardphillips214]

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Omg this game is so frustrating. I swear i think I'm done again. Lol

Got fed up with all my other characters and my center has been fun. But last night i caught one of the nastiest contact animations i ever seen. Then my dude proceeded to CLANK two DIFFERENT two handed dunks. This is just absurd. So you mean to tell me that i can dunk OVER someone one play. Then the next 2 dunks i miss while ON FIRE?!?!?!?! PLUS THIS WAS BACK TO BACK.

I missed, they get the rebound, buddy steals it, gives it back to me, i go up again and miss again.

Both two handed animations. Both not blocked, just missed.


Ughhhhhhhhhh....

I'm sure my friends are upset as i completely shut off my system mid game and went to sleep.

[howardphillips214]

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Omg this game is so frustrating. I swear i think I'm done again. Lol

Got fed up with all my other characters and my center has been fun. But last night i caught one of the nastiest contact animations i ever seen. Then my dude proceeded to CLANK two DIFFERENT two handed dunks. This is just absurd. So you mean to tell me that i can dunk OVER someone one play. Then the next 2 dunks i miss while ON FIRE?!?!?!?! PLUS THIS WAS BACK TO BACK.

I missed, they get the rebound, buddy steals it, gives it back to me, i go up again and miss again.

Both two handed animations. Both not blocked, just missed.


Ughhhhhhhhhh....

I'm sure my friends are upset as i completely shut off my system mid game and went to sleep.

http://youtu.be/VKh5fywlTU8

[jyoung]

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Post first is pointless.

I disagree.

7'3" 340-pound pure post scorer is the best center build in the game IMO since you get silver rim protector on defense and you have so many ways to be effective on offense. Hall of fame post badges make you unguardable one-on-one unless your defender has gold or higher defensive stopper to neutralize your spin/dropstep/up & under animations. Even against defending archetypes, you can still score on them if you fake them out and maneuver them out of a position where they can register a solid shot contest. Post scorers aren't dependent on contact dunk animations to bail out their contested shot attempts like every other big man build is, but you can still get them to trigger pretty consistently once you're on-fire. You also have the best mid-range jumper of any non-shooting build and can hit the corner three while on-fire or after receiving a pass from a silver or higher dimer. And if you need to play a non-scoring role, you have gold bruiser and gold brick wall to set hard screens. The bad speed and vertical ratings are the only downsides to using a pure post scorer at center, but if you max out the wingspan, you'll be able to make up for your low vertical with long arms, and given how small the speed gap is during gameplay, the extra 20 points in speed you could get on a more athletic build really doesn't matter that much this year.

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