Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[illwill10]

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I DID tell you that wasn't the strongest combination. Lol

I disagree with the 70 part tho. Unless you could ONLY play to level him then this just makes it more expensive to level him. If you started from a 70 then every attribute would be like 4k VC.

You were right lol. But the reason I stopped playing with him was it would have took me forever to get to 90. I stopped getting 3 upgrades per capbreaker at 88 OVR. So it will basically take me 2 Cap Breakers to go up one OVR point.

I understand that. My thing is that besides this year, the protagonist is almost always a phenom coming into league, but starts out 55-60. I just want to come in being able to play. Or at least Physical ratings higher. Not realistic to boost your speed from 70 to 90+

[illwill10]

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One thing I hope they do in future iterations is to stop nerfing ratings for badges. Where last year I seen videos where players with 99 Ratings with no badges played worse than 60-70 with Gold badges. They completely nerfed steal. My center had 89 steal but couldnt take advantage of it, yet if i get bumped i turn the ball over. With my Sharp/Playmaker, i have 92 3pt. But I couldn't shoot consistently without badges. Theres no way a 90 3pt shooter with no badges should shoot worse than a 75 3pt shooter with Gold badges.

[ph33]

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This has nothing to do with this thread but we're all pro am bros anyways

Read this article and I think every ******* 2k screen-happy player (Especially guards that SHOOT) needs to understand this concept

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23218340/how-did-rookie-donovan-mitchell-turn-utah-jazz-go-scorer-check-tape-nba

Bryant has been stressing to Mitchell all season the importance of sprinting to the corner when he's filling an outside line in transition, trying to break him of his habit of settling on the wing. That's in large part because the corner 3 is a much more efficient shot, particularly for Mitchell, who made 48.5 percent of his attempts from the corners this season, compared to 32.5 percent of above-the-break 3s.

It's also due to the impact on spacing, opening avenues for teammates by forcing a defender to account for Mitchell all the way into the corner.

Yes. Please go to the damn corner instead of stopping at the wing to set a screen in transition

[howardphillips214]

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One thing I hope they do in future iterations is to stop nerfing ratings for badges. Where last year I seen videos where players with 99 Ratings with no badges played worse than 60-70 with Gold badges. They completely nerfed steal. My center had 89 steal but couldnt take advantage of it, yet if i get bumped i turn the ball over. With my Sharp/Playmaker, i have 92 3pt. But I couldn't shoot consistently without badges. Theres no way a 90 3pt shooter with no badges should shoot worse than a 75 3pt shooter with Gold badges.

Your jumper it's probably playing the most part. IDK what you're using, but from someone who WASN'T a base 9 player, after equipping it I've shot much better. You can literally use any release with base 9 and it will increase makes and greens.

There are other "money" bases, but that's the one I prefer. I can green with a 75 and a 76 rating with hot spots and only corner specialist bronze.

But yeah, that build is garbage IMO. Anyone putting defense in their build this year that I know says it's worthless. You get more bump steals than reach steals this year anyways.

[howardphillips214]

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This has nothing to do with this thread but we're all pro am bros anyways

Read this article and I think every ******* 2k screen-happy player (Especially guards that SHOOT) needs to understand this concept

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23218340/how-did-rookie-donovan-mitchell-turn-utah-jazz-go-scorer-check-tape-nba

Yes. Please go to the damn corner instead of stopping at the wing to set a screen in transition

But I wanna get in your way so you have to pass me the ball!

[Housh123]

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But I wanna get in your way so you have to pass me the ball!

Had a guy yesterday who admitted he was doing this to me, because he was at PG and I was a SF Pure point forward and I was playing better, so the other teammates started letting me run PG, and he got mad.


Another problem that is fixed by only playing with teammates. But I don't think your full enjoyment should depend on others. To me that makes 2k a bad game

[ILLSmak]

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It's kind of nonsense that pure lock down gets such terrible caps on offense, is a mediocre rebounder by ratings (even defensive rebs), and pure rebounder can defend with height, finish, and post.

It would have been nice to see lock down get either some wide open jumper or more catch and finish ability.

-Smak

[illwill10]

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It's kind of nonsense that pure lock down gets such terrible caps on offense, is a mediocre rebounder by ratings (even defensive rebs), and pure rebounder can defend with height, finish, and post.

It would have been nice to see lock down get either some wide open jumper or more catch and finish ability.

-Smak

Just like how Pure Sharp has low physical ratings. Best way to score as a LDD is as a big. I had a Pure Lockdown PF last year. Only consistent way to score is to score off of 2nd chance and free throws.
Hope in future they allow you to be more than one dimensional player. Even with dual Archetypes, you still pretty much a one dimensional player. Unless you know which builds mesh, your primary isn't as lethal and secondary isnt good enough for you to do it consistently.
I don't like how you can decide where your cap breaker goes. Where if I have a attribute that maxes below 65, I don't want to get a cap breaker for it. With my Sharp/Playmaker, I need a cap breaker to get Ball Handle to 75 so I can unlock Pro Dribble. I just got a cap breaker for ratings I don't need. I know it might take 2-3 before I get the cap breaker I want

[shawnydee]

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Really like my sharpshooting shot creator 6'9 dropped 43 in walkon last night on efficient shooting almost have ds hof

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[hanzsomehanz]

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Really like my sharpshooting shot creator 6'9 dropped 43 in walkon last night on efficient shooting almost have ds hof

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I have thus build in mind at 6ft8

I don't take many mid range shots. I'm pretty much 3s and finishes at the rim. I am an efficient mid range shooter though.. it just plays out more efficiently to finish at the rim or take a 3 or kick it out.

I do think I could use it well. I just don't think I'll be doing it much justice by not using the mid range game enough and difficult shots.. I don't even attempt acrobat and tear drop a lot. I'd say I have less than a 5% usage rate on these types of attempts. If I could mold my own Shot-creator freely: I'd negate mid-range for another benefit.

I'm leaning towards a two-way sharp or a sharp point-forward.

What are you general tendencies with your 6ft9 sharp-shotty?

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[shawnydee]

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I have thus build in mind at 6ft8

I don't take many mid range shots. I'm pretty much 3s and finishes at the rim. I am an efficient mid range shooter though.. it just plays out more efficiently to finish at the rim or take a 3 or kick it out.

I do think I could use it well. I just don't think I'll be doing it much justice by not using the mid range game enough and difficult shots.. I don't even attempt acrobat and tear drop a lot. I'd say I have less than a 5% usage rate on these types of attempts. If I could mold my own Shot-creator freely: I'd negate mid-range for another benefit.

I'm leaning towards a two-way sharp or a sharp point-forward.

What are you general tendencies with your 6ft9 sharp-shotty?

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I try to get open for a quick catch and shoot 3 first if i can i try to get to my spot near baseline for a mid range shot unless i see a lane that im confident that i can drive and make the layup or dunk.

I heard the 2 way sharp is a good build but i think u lose so much attributes on shooting when going two way.

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[shawnydee]

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Do yall use the shot meter or have it off.

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[howardphillips214]

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Do yall use the shot meter or have it off.

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Turned the meter off the year they introduced it. Maybe that's why I shoot 38% from deep in walk on and park. LMFAO

[ph33]

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Do yall use the shot meter or have it off.

Off. It's too distracting

[hanzsomehanz]

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6ft10 255 PF Rebounding Slasher

I like it and the grind is seemingly easy. The 2on2 drill for Hustle Rebounder is very helpful for triggering multiple badge progresses. I can get 10 boards and 10 screens in a single drill plus an assortment of other minor badge progressions like, Putback King and Bruiser.

Character is only a 65 overall right now. Going to focus on Athleticism, Rebounding and Dunking. His passing has been embarrassingly awful but there is such a low ceiling there as it is. Character has been getting Posterizer type dunks with a 70 driving dunk and stock dunk packages and no badge. It tells me how OP dunking with bigs is. I was surprised and shocked when I saw dude rise up from a standstill on a 7ft big and straight up dunked over him like he was Deandre.. no dunk packages equipped... [emoji53]

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