Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[jyoung]

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All you need to do is play the game for 50 straight hours and you got it

It takes me around a month to get one character to a 91 overall rating, and I play this game just about every night. There's no good reason why a player with slashing in his archetype should have to go that long without a gameplay tool that's essential to the character's success on offense.

I'll just restate what I said in this thread about this same issue a few days ago: predetermined attribute upgrades was one of the worst design decisions in 2K18.

I considered making one this year but when I realized that I couldn't get Corner Specialist I decided against it. Defending builds are pretty much useless offensively now.

If you're trying to use a non-sharp defending build to shoot threes, then yes, it's going to be useless unless you're playing with a PG who has floor general unlocked and you're getting passes from people who have silver or higher dimer.

But defending builds excel in screen and roll situations due to their high strength, speed, and silver posterizer badge. Those same traits also make them good drivers when the ball is in their hands. You can even run a defender build at point guard if you're a patient player and you know how to work around the build's offensive limitations.

[ph33]

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It takes me around a month to get one character to a 91 overall rating, and I play this game just about every night. There's no good reason why a player with slashing in his archetype should have to go that long without a gameplay tool that's essential to the character's success on offense.

I'll just restate what I said in this thread about this same issue a few days ago: predetermined attribute upgrades was one of the worst design decisions in 2K18.

It's been disappointing for many reasons. There are many issues with VC, but time spent has been as much a chore for the customer this year. And if someone makes a player that they end up regretting, then they end up having wasted a ton of time that they can't get back in any way for any new player. At least in FIFA, getting +1 in attributes from playing the game stays with your player no matter how you permutate it.

They very often seem to take one step forward and two steps back --- I'm glad they FINALLY had a badge count this year and that any mode you play contributes to overall progress. But the two steps back is that the badges are still a stupidly insane grind and that they forced your progression to be divided by every player, so the stuff I was happy they added got neutralized by the other decisions that were made.


there's also that thing where they make you stay in a game against 5 Ai in walk on, it wasn't there before

[shawnydee]

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How is pure post scorer?

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[ph33]

Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

How is pure post scorer?

I'm sure it's great if you're willing to spend the next few weeks of your life playing 2k nonstop to get the hall of fame badges

[howardphillips214]

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I'm sure it's great if you're willing to spend the next few weeks of your life playing 2k nonstop to get the hall of fame badges

I've had a post scorer first forever. Got post spin gold 2 weeks ago, drop stepper silver a week ago, and still have up and under on bronze, and that's the only HOF badge I get, lol.

[Housh123]

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I've had a post scorer first forever. Got post spin gold 2 weeks ago, drop stepper silver a week ago, and still have up and under on bronze, and that's the only HOF badge I get, lol.

Iv had my pure post a long time and very recently just got up and under, post spin, and drop stepper to HOF. By recently i say around March 20. Most of that is naturally grinding Park and pro am and at the end i played NBA games where i put quarters at 12 mins and did one move every play. Doing that i began getting like 20,000-30,000 XP a game, but doing that was UNBEARABLE. If i did that i could only do it once a day it was so boring


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[Housh123]

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2k needs to have a tutorial in the game where it forces people to post up their teammates. This is getting crazy. 98% of the guard and forwards on 2k have probably never intentionally posted up a teammate


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[shawnydee]

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2k needs to have a tutorial in the game where it forces people to post up their teammates. This is getting crazy. 98% of the guard and forwards on 2k have probably never intentionally posted up a teammate


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Credit the new nba style thats why people dont value the bigs anymore they think we only there for rebounding screen setting. That we are not supposed to score that much. Im not that old but i miss the old nba it has so change since 2011.

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[hanzsomehanz]

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6'4 or 6'8 pure playmaker

6'4 or 6'8 shot - maker

Hmm

I'm drawn to the 6ft4 pure playa for his 99 speed / speed with ball but concerned about his defense. I love to help on boards after making a pass and the 6ft8 could be solid on the Glass.

Interestingly, by going Slasher first on my 6ft6 Sharp Slasher he becomes solid on the boards with 80 vertical and 75 rebounding. It's a pity I can't speed boost as a Rebounding Playmaker or I would go that route.

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[ph33]

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Yeah, I'm done making post scorers after this year. Just don't get enough opportunities to take advantage of its strengths and all that.

[jyoung]

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The only good pure playmaker builds are the 6'9" or 6'10" small forward. Of those two, I prefer the 6'9" build.

All of the point guard pure playmaker builds have bad dunk tendency ratings that will prevent you from dunking in-game even if you buy dunk animations.

You also won't get your final three-pointer upgrade until 92 overall, and you'll have to keep going past that to unlock your last three mid-range upgrades.

Yeah, I'm done making post scorers after this year. Just don't get enough opportunities to take advantage of its strengths and all that.

Form a team, put sharpshooters around you, and you're all set to dominate down low. Post scorers are very hard to stop one-on-one with the wide variety of animation cheeses that 2K has given them this year.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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The only good pure playmaker builds are the 6'9" or 6'10" small forward. Of those two, I prefer the 6'9" build.

All of the point guard pure playmaker builds have bad dunk tendency ratings that will prevent you from dunking in-game even if you buy dunk animations.

You also won't get your final three-pointer upgrade until 92 overall, and you'll have to keep going past that to unlock your last three mid-range upgrades.



Form a team, put sharpshooters around you, and you're all set to dominate down low. Post scorers are very hard to stop one-on-one with the wide variety of animation cheeses that 2K has given them this year.

1v1 I’ll take an athletic build over a post . Hold your crouch in the paint and just catch the ball. Contact dunk animation.

[shawnydee]

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1v1 I’ll take an athletic build over a post . Hold your crouch in the paint and just catch the ball. Contact dunk animation.

Lol. Post is more fun and i prefer the extra strenght help protect the rim.

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[ph33]

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1v1 I’ll take an athletic build over a post . Hold your crouch in the paint and just catch the ball. Contact dunk animation.

Aka the busting zone

[jyoung]

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1v1 I’ll take an athletic build over a post . Hold your crouch in the paint and just catch the ball. Contact dunk animation.

As long as you have your quick reflexes badge up to gold, it's pretty easy to just front the entry pass, time your steal, and intercept the ball against slapnuts who try to play like that.

Also, if the PG who's passing slappy the ball isn't in shooting range yet (most PGs will try to throw the entry pass before they cross halfcourt, since the three-in-the-key count doesn't start until the ball crosses the halfcourt line), then the defender who's guarding the PG should be the one to front the pass and go for the steal.

There are no easy counters like that to a badged up post scorer who knows all of the scoring options that the build gets this year.

Athletics are one-dimensional builds that can't do anything but seal + dunk or pump fake + dunk, and if they are matched up against a defending build, then their posterizer animations won't even trigger.

Post scorers have at least a dozen different ways to generate open shots, and half of those moves will still work against defending builds, because they're not reliant on praying for a winning dice roll from the animation roulette.