Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[kdurantmvp]

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I think I might fall in love with this shot creator/post scoring SF. Just gotta fine a smooth shot


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[Vroman]

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I think I've officially changed my mind on the whole Speed vs Strength concept when it comes to big men.

I played a 7'3 340 lb Pure Post Scorer and he's the only person that has ABSOLUTELY WRECKED me this year. (Given, he had 5 Gold Badges compared to my 1, but still).

He was just as fast, if not faster at times (he could keep up with me as well) every time running up and down the floor which makes absolutely no sense to me?

He was tall enough to out rebound me, bump me a little with his strength and get position - I'd get a good shot contest (perfectly timed it) and it would still go in.

He went 7-7 on "good shot contest" vs me, which was just frustrating lol like what else can I do? I stole 2 entry passes, once from him and had 3 help defense blocks.

I just simply couldn't stop him in a 1v1 scenario.

I won't comment on PG/SG/SF, but I'm now convinced that if you're making a big man, you should go near the max height/weight.

This dude was unstoppable, had a park record of 290-16. I played him 3 times (won the 2nd time in my revenge game only because I shot 9-9 and his teammates messed up) but he wrecked me the 3rd game again.

Pretty sure speed of 7'3 max weight is simply glitched, im getting out paced down the court by them when i use 6'10 post scorer+defender. Also post area defense is really broken, bodying anything up is nearly an impossible chore. Even lower strength opponents manage to get right under rim when i try to deny position as much as i can.

[nyk_fatboy]

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what yall think is the best snagging build? pure glass or rebounding/athletic? ive seen both dominate on boards but the rebound/athletic can get to spots quicker

[nyk_fatboy]

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one thing i did notice is pure glass cleaners have slightly better defensive awareness than all other NON defending builds.

[cjacks17]

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Anyone using a pure playmaker PG?

Second build I'm considering between a pure playmaking PG or a 6'4 Playmaker Slasher OR shot creator.

Intrigued by the pure playmaker though


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[OrlandoTill]

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I think I might fall in love with this shot creator/post scoring SF. Just gotta fine a smooth shot


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I am a 6"10" version(the only one without Pro Dribbles) I use a combo of Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce shot to score. You might be slow(especially if you used pther wing builds before this) but you will score at all 3 levels very effectively.

[de5m0n]

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what yall think is the best snagging build? pure glass or rebounding/athletic? ive seen both dominate on boards but the rebound/athletic can get to spots quicker

Why not a slashing rebounder? They get HOF hustle rebounder.

[nyk_fatboy]

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Why not a slashing rebounder? They get HOF hustle rebounder.

as in primary athletic / secondary rebounding? that build gets gold hustle rebounder i think. the primary rebounder/ athletic gets HOF hustle rebounder.

[garyraymond23]

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Pretty sure speed of 7'3 max weight is simply glitched, im getting out paced down the court by them when i use 6'10 post scorer+defender. Also post area defense is really broken, bodying anything up is nearly an impossible chore. Even lower strength opponents manage to get right under rim when i try to deny position as much as i can.

THIS IS A PROBLEM.

A 7'3 Pure Post Scorer has a max of:

39 Speed
33 Acceleration
This doesn't even factor in the fact the was max weight, 340 lbs.


WHY is he beating my 60 speed guy down the court and able to keep up with my brother's 78 speed guy down the court?

By this logic, any big man who is not maxed height/weight is at a laughable disadvantage, this is a massive, massive problem if this is happening consistently...

It also makes my 6'11 shot creating post scorer (who I made 6'11 and a slightly lower weight for more speed) seemingly pointless now.

[garyraymond23]

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as in primary athletic / secondary rebounding? that build gets gold hustle rebounder i think. the primary rebounder/ athletic gets HOF hustle rebounder.

PF/C gets Gold, SF gets Silver for hustle rebounder secondary. (unsure what position he was referencing)

[nyk_fatboy]

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THIS IS A PROBLEM.

A 7'3 Pure Post Scorer has a max of:

39 Speed
33 Acceleration
This doesn't even factor in the fact the was max weight, 340 lbs.


WHY is he beating my 60 speed guy down the court and able to keep up with my brother's 78 speed guy down the court?

By this logic, any big man who is not maxed height/weight is at a laughable disadvantage, this is a massive, massive problem if this is happening consistently...

It also makes my 6'11 shot creating post scorer (who I made 6'11 and a slightly lower weight for more speed) seemingly pointless now.

the 340 guy is probably getting a piggy back ride down the court with the animation where you can clang onto the persons body and keep up with them down the court lol

[franzis]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Anyone using a pure playmaker PG?

Second build I'm considering between a pure playmaking PG or a 6'4 Playmaker Slasher OR shot creator.

Intrigued by the pure playmaker though


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If you are in love with dribble moves, go with him.
Otherwise, not worthy.

[ph33]

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THIS IS A PROBLEM.

A 7'3 Pure Post Scorer has a max of:

39 Speed
33 Acceleration
This doesn't even factor in the fact the was max weight, 340 lbs.


WHY is he beating my 60 speed guy down the court and able to keep up with my brother's 78 speed guy down the court?

By this logic, any big man who is not maxed height/weight is at a laughable disadvantage, this is a massive, massive problem if this is happening consistently...

It also makes my 6'11 shot creating post scorer (who I made 6'11 and a slightly lower weight for more speed) seemingly pointless now.

I gotta say, when I made a new player and left it at 60 for a bit of time, it felt like he moved even better than the player I upgraded.

You can feel it when you don't have handles, but speed/accel/quickness? Those ratings seem like placebos, to be honest.

[garyraymond23]

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the 340 guy is probably getting a piggy back ride down the court with the animation where you can clang onto the persons body and keep up with them down the court lol

I gotta say, when I made a new player and left it at 60 for a bit of time, it felt like he moved even better than the player I upgraded.

You can feel it when you don't have handles, but speed/accel/quickness? Those ratings seem like placebos, to be honest.

My guy: 6'11 240 lb post scorer: 60 speed

his guy 7'3 340 lb post scorer: 39 speed MAX (probably slower)

I would get out run down the court, no animations, just a straight line down the court. There were times when we were on opposite side of the court running towards a hoop and he would STILL out run me ..

I'm 21 speed faster than him, 21+ in acceleration, this is not ok. The reason I decided to make a smaller/lighter guy was to specifically be able to out run everyone who makes a max height/weight guy ..

[de5m0n]

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as in primary athletic / secondary rebounding? that build gets gold hustle rebounder i think. the primary rebounder/ athletic gets HOF hustle rebounder.

yeah, i meant primary rebounder.