Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[xx2khazard]

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What would be the best lebron archetype? I feel like you can't truly replicate him because he's so unique. However, what do you guys think gets close in terms of archetypes?


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[Detroitfan4life1993]

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What would be the best lebron archetype? I feel like you can't truly replicate him because he's so unique. However, what do you guys think gets close in terms of archetypes?


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Point forward/slasher?

[Ragnar53]

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Lebron would be 6'8 Slasher/PointForward

With the new triple threat system I'm cautiously optimistic that you can beat your guy by getting that explosive first step on him (and when they bothered to do it in the stream Shakedown for instance was able to beat his man fairly consistently with MJ in the triple threat at the 3 point line, even with the defender playing 2-3 feet off him, simply because he had the speed and strength to get downhill with a head of steam. And this was on Hall of Fame difficulty) rather than having to dribble spam.

Demar Derozan would be a 6'7 Shotcreator/Slasher (He settles for a ridiculous amount of contested jumpers in real life. On par with Melo. I'd say he's like Kobe, except if Kobe was going to take a contested jumper than doggone it he was taking a contested 3 with a hand in his face )

Kevin Durant build would be 6'9-6'11 Shotcreator/Sharpshooter

Kawhi is a Defender/Shotcreator in that order
Prime/Old MJ is a Shotcreator/Defender in that order
Young MJ is a Slasher/Shotcreator

The caps were different enough that the primary archetype mattered a lot (in terms of what would be the max cap) and determined what badges were gold and which were silver and bronze.

[8KB24]

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Yeah, I'm going with Shot creator/defender. Get that Kobe/MJ clone. Make me 6'6 205 lbs and max wingspan. You know the game lacks this type of player. Hopefully I get drafted by the Lakers. Ball/Me/Ingram/Randle/Lopez. Bench Clarkson, KCP, Nance Jr, Zubac.

Gonna focus on defense first season or two. Get the defensive accolades rolling and then start going ham on my opponents with post moves, stepbacks, spin jumpers, eurosteps....oooh boooooi and that triple threat. Ya know I'mma blow by some fools with jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab Melo uses.

[nyk_fatboy]

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was watching one of annoyings recent videos he said when he had his sharp/lockdown build his 3 pointer was a 60 maxed lol..

i dont think these dual builds will be as crazy as you think or at least not that OP.

[franzis]

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Need to better understand the dual archetypes thing, but atm I'm really tempted to go in full Magic Johnson mode: Point Forward + post scorer

[Ragnar53]

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was watching one of annoyings recent videos he said when he had his sharp/lockdown build his 3 pointer was a 60 maxed lol..

i dont think these dual builds will be as crazy as you think or at least not that OP.

Yup I just watched that video myself.

It's also sounding like unless you make a stretch big, gone are the days of 5 out on pro am because he was also saying inside Centers and Power Forwards can't shoot at all (at least not 3's. They were saying it was still pretty easy to green midranges tho).

So I'd say expect a lot more Post Scorers, Rim Protectors, and Glass Cleaners. Maybe people will finally start setting offball screens more often instead of running pick and roll/pop action all game?

And with dual archetypes for guards and wings this is making me think that unless you pick a Pure Sharp (assuming it's a 94 at max) your 3 ball is probably going to be a max of 60 (Lockdown anywhere in the build) 70-75 (Slasher/Playmaker) , 80 (Shotcreator) depending on which archetype is your primary.

[ryocoola31]

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Yup I just watched that video myself.

It's also sounding like unless you make a stretch big, gone are the days of 5 out on pro am because he was also saying inside Centers and Power Forwards can't shoot at all (at least not 3's. They were saying it was still pretty easy to green midranges tho).

So I'd say expect a lot more Post Scorers, Rim Protectors, and Glass Cleaners. Maybe people will finally start setting offball screens more often instead of running pick and roll/pop action all game?

And with dual archetypes for guards and wings this is making me think that unless you pick a Pure Sharp (assuming it's a 94 at max) your 3 ball is probably going to be a max of 60 (Lockdown anywhere in the build) 70-75 (Slasher/Playmaker) , 80 (Shotcreator) depending on which archetype is your primary.

Definitely saw that primary defense definitely lowered your three, but a secondary defense one combined with three point primary or shot creator primary were not 60 or appear to be that bad

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[ryocoola31]

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Really wondering how if I make shot creator primary slasher secondary how the heck you build something in terms of weight to make it effective. Usual low weight shot creator and mid/high weight for slasher. Something is taking a hit. Less Contact dunk or a slow ballhandling shot creator.

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[Goffs]

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I'm disappointed that there's no HOF badges with defense combo without going fully pure. That's what it looks like to me anyway. Not really surprised though since it is defense....

[Korrupted]

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I'm going the Pure route. I think mixing and matching may have too many cons when it comes down to it. Give me all of the hall of fame badges. I cant wait!

[TheFinalEvent97]

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I'm disappointed that there's no HOF badges with defense combo without going fully pure. That's what it looks like to me anyway. Not really surprised though since it is defense....

In one video they showed a Slasher primary+Defender secondary, it had HOF Posterizer, HOF Acrobat and HOF One Man Fast Break.

Also saw a Rebounding+Athletic that had HOF Hustle Rebounder and HOF Putback King.

[Goffs]

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In one video they showed a Slasher primary+Defender secondary, it had HOF Posterizer, HOF Acrobat and HOF One Man Fast Break.

Also saw a Rebounding+Athletic that had HOF Hustle Rebounder and HOF Putback King.

That's good to hear....how about having defender as primary? Did you see anything with HOF badges for having that as primary?

I'm planning on making a Rim Protector again but I didn't see anything with HOF badges if going dual.

[infemous]

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Will be really interesting to see how much weight is given to your primary over your secondary in terms of ratings.

All I wanna do is make the most athletic 6'6 PG possible with crazy layups. Wondering if Playmaker first then Slasher works best for this or other way around.

I really hope we can see max stats when selecting a player archetype coz if this grind is even longer but applies throughout every mode then I don't want to waste any time. I ain't buying VC so it will take ages.

Why can't we port VC over?

[Naboulet]

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I'm planning on making a Rim Protector again but I didn't see anything with HOF badges if going dual.

Same here. I'm hesitating about it making pure class since Chase-Down Artist and Charge badges weren't that great last year.