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  • tunnelhausen
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    • Sep 2015
    • 17

    #106
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Thx, I did correct that and add a column. Also just feel free to use the data and make your own table. So much data missing, I would be glad if we get more together.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

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    • Housh123
      Banned
      • Jan 2011
      • 1173

      #107
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by tunnelhausen
      Seems that the second archetype has a lesser impact on the attributes. Saw the 3PT/Defender build for PG somewhere and ratings for blocks and steals were just a little over the middle... Puh, so much to think about!


      Ok see I was thinking it was high 80s. So somewhere over the middle to me means at max you get a 65 base but after you add boosts and catch and shoot and dimer it'll probably feel like an 80 in game with a mastered release. So for shooting maybe it'll work out on glass cleaning sharpshooter archetypes and similar.


      But the other attributes like defender as a secondary may not be worth it. We could max out at 74 defense in 2k17 and it got me by the whole year. If making defender your secondary only gets you to like 80 I definitely won't waste the archetype slot


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      • tunnelhausen
        Rookie
        • Sep 2015
        • 17

        #108
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by Housh123
        Ok see I was thinking it was high 80s. So somewhere over the middle to me means at max you get a 65 base but after you add boosts and catch and shoot and dimer it'll probably feel like an 80 in game with a mastered release. So for shooting maybe it'll work out on glass cleaning sharpshooter archetypes and similar.


        But the other attributes like defender as a secondary may not be worth it. We could max out at 74 defense in 2k17 and it got me by the whole year. If making defender your secondary only gets you to like 80 I definitely won't waste the archetype slot


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        See, it's right here at 2:38. I don't think steals or blocks will be 80 if I look at this.

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        • tunnelhausen
          Rookie
          • Sep 2015
          • 17

          #109
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Sorry, forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZCEKv8xNqg&t=213s

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          • 8KB24
            MVP
            • Jun 2012
            • 2106

            #110
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by Housh123
            Lol post scorer guard?


            If you played with smart teammates who actually gave you clean post ups that would be extremely OP mixed with slasher. But I guarantee your bigs and other teammates will crowd you as soon as you post up


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            I play only offline so I think I will be fine.

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            • nyk_fatboy
              Pro
              • Dec 2013
              • 708

              #111
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by tunnelhausen
              wow a center defender primary can have both rim protector and defensive stopper

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              • poetinjune
                Rookie
                • Sep 2015
                • 109

                #112
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                If guards can be post scorer, anyone else excited about the likely possibility of bigs being able to be playmakers?

                Hopefully we can be a playmaking powerforward like Ben Simmons: grabbing the defensive board, pushing the ball up the court, and dropping flashy dimes

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                • Housh123
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1173

                  #113
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by poetinjune
                  If guards can be post scorer, anyone else excited about the likely possibility of bigs being able to be playmakers?



                  Hopefully we can be a playmaking powerforward like Ben Simmons: grabbing the defensive board, pushing the ball up the court, and dropping flashy dimes


                  Bro chill out.


                  Ben Simmons and taller Draymond Green is exactly how I want to be able to play.

                  My dream sequence is blocking a guy, getting the board, pushing it down the court, hitting a guy at half court with a crossover, then throwing an alley oop to a teammate


                  I really want to push tempo when I'm in the game. I was so slow as a post scorer last year that I felt like I was in cement


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                  • poetinjune
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                    • Sep 2015
                    • 109

                    #114
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by Housh123
                    Bro chill out.


                    Ben Simmons and taller Draymond Green is exactly how I want to be able to play.

                    My dream sequence is blocking a guy, getting the board, pushing it down the court, hitting a guy at half court with a crossover, then throwing an alley oop to a teammate


                    I really want to push tempo when I'm in the game. I was so slow as a post scorer last year that I felt like I was in cement


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                    LOL
                    My thoughts exactly.
                    Guess you're going for Playmaker / Defender on your PF?
                    Hope we can see the caps soon to see if Playmaker for Bigs has decent Speed with Ball

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                    • Housh123
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1173

                      #115
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by poetinjune
                      LOL

                      My thoughts exactly.

                      Guess you're going for Playmaker / Defender on your PF?

                      Hope we can see the caps soon to see if Playmaker for Bigs has decent Speed with Ball


                      I think I'm going a combo of post scoring and playmaking

                      Caps will decide which is primary


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                      • Rensational14
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 516

                        #116
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by nyk_fatboy
                        Glass cleaner + Athletic finisher might be really underrated if you want to go duel archetype and still be a beast snagger if you factor in the little vert/speed bonus you should get from being half athletic.
                        Might make that one

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                        • Conspiculous
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 246

                          #117
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          I plan on keeping what I had in 2k17. Lockdown, Lockdown and Lockdown and Lockdown....did I mention I'm an avid love of Lockdown Defenders! If it ain't broke don't fix it.

                          Grinding for Legend when 2k18 drops.
                          Former ss4 in 2k17. add me if you wanna run in 2k18.

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                          6'6 SG 94 Overall Slashing Defender
                          6'5 SG 90 Overall Pure Sharpshooter
                          6'8 SF 81 Overall Two-Way Slasher
                          Active Daily on 2K, I play 2s, 3s & Walk-on.
                          If you're active and would like to run Park or Walk-on Shoot me a PSN Message and we can get some games in.
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                          • YannisLB
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                            • Aug 2017
                            • 212

                            #118
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Seing the stats, Im asking myself a question:

                            Is there still the "moving 3 pts/midrange" attribute? Cause I can only see 3pts and mid range

                            Basically this is really important if I want to chose between a shot creator or sharpshooter cause if this is the case sharpshooter benefit will only be midrange

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                            • Caelumfang
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1218

                              #119
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by YannisLB
                              Seing the stats, Im asking myself a question:

                              Is there still the "moving 3 pts/midrange" attribute? Cause I can only see 3pts and mid range

                              Basically this is really important if I want to chose between a shot creator or sharpshooter cause if this is the case sharpshooter benefit will only be midrange
                              Been wondering the same thing...

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                              • EarvGotti
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 2249

                                #120
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Defending/Post Scoring PF aka a young Timmy D!!!
                                Lineup:
                                PG) Gary Payton
                                SG) '95-'96 Michael Jordan
                                SF) Sapphire Scottie Pippen
                                PF) '95-'96 Dennis Rodman
                                C) Hakeem Olajuwon

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