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  • howardphillips214
    MVP
    • Jan 2018
    • 1928

    #2941
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by shawnydee
    So u think i should stay with what i currently have

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    I'd see a sharp first shot Creator secondary being much more fearsome.

    But your playmaking shot Creator is different. He can get to any spot on the floor when he wants, whereas being able to score reliably from anywhere is not the same. I'd much rather get to the spots I want than be able to convert at a decent clip everywhere.

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    • illwill10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2009
      • 19827

      #2942
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by howardphillips214
      I'd see a sharp first shot Creator secondary being much more fearsome.

      But your playmaking shot Creator is different. He can get to any spot on the floor when he wants, whereas being able to score reliably from anywhere is not the same. I'd much rather get to the spots I want than be able to convert at a decent clip everywhere.
      Sharp/Shot Creator, the mid range maxes for some positions and 3pt should max or close too. So I guess anything 13-30 feet should be a green light. I just dont plan on using it since your bound to be very slow unless you make a undersized player.
      Playmaking/Shot Creator is one of most used builds. Have the speed and ball handle to get at the paint at will. Mid Range game should be good to hit pull ups and feast off Pick rolls. I think 3pt shot is decent enough for you make 1-3 threes a game. And enough athleticism to keep up with most players defensively. I didn't choose it because I didnt want to follow that trend especially at PG. But that build might be one I might consider at SF. Being 6'8-6-10 with Playmaking skills, athleticism to blow by slower Defenders, and run pick and roll for Mid Range shots.

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      • CBAT
        Rookie
        • Feb 2007
        • 471

        #2943
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by illwill10
        Sharp/Shot Creator, the mid range maxes for some positions and 3pt should max or close too. So I guess anything 13-30 feet should be a green light. I just dont plan on using it since your bound to be very slow unless you make a undersized player.
        Playmaking/Shot Creator is one of most used builds. Have the speed and ball handle to get at the paint at will. Mid Range game should be good to hit pull ups and feast off Pick rolls. I think 3pt shot is decent enough for you make 1-3 threes a game. And enough athleticism to keep up with most players defensively. I didn't choose it because I didnt want to follow that trend especially at PG. But that build might be one I might consider at SF. Being 6'8-6-10 with Playmaking skills, athleticism to blow by slower Defenders, and run pick and roll for Mid Range shots.
        One of my running mates is a 6'3 shot creating sharp and he is a MONSTER. Consistently dropping 40+ in pro am shooting over 60%. Him being undersized helps a lot since he still has decent speed. He's developed some go to moves that are difficult to guard and can hit moving shots easily. Also, it's funny since he hated his guy early on, but once he got comfortable with a jump shot and got some badges, he has been good to go.

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        • shawnydee
          Pro
          • Nov 2012
          • 839

          #2944
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by howardphillips214
          I'd see a sharp first shot Creator secondary being much more fearsome.

          But your playmaking shot Creator is different. He can get to any spot on the floor when he wants, whereas being able to score reliably from anywhere is not the same. I'd much rather get to the spots I want than be able to convert at a decent clip everywhere.
          Yeah you right playmaking shot creator is a nice build im still learning how to get more comfortable on ball cause i find i play better offball. I still have an attribute to unlock for my ball handling i heard that at 6'8 im able to speed boost ill see if it feels better. I only play pro am tho rarely park.

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          • Housh123
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1173

            #2945
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by Housh123
            Just wanna share some post scoring tips I got from streaking with a pretty good shot creator on the 2s.


            When you post up and you spin seems to not be working try doing it again but first backing up. The spin seems to grant better animations if you arent engaged with a defender when you do it. This is really good against defenders who dont jump on fakes and hold their hands straight up. Also it makes you look fast if you do a few in a row.

            Also dribble IN THE PAINT. Dont be afriad to get ripped. I was getting ALOT of dudes to bite when I faced up pulled back and dribble once or twice before doing a post move

            Utilize your post hop shot 300% more than you probably are now. This is my favorite move I stole from the shot creator SG I was playing with. He was DESTROYING dudes with this. Hed do it if he got in traffic and hed string an up and under with it and it was great. Then he also did alot of side stepbacks, into up and unders that got him wide open.
            A little of what I was talking about. Shot creators and anyone with post scoring in their archetype can green this out


            I have done this a lot more and GREENED it




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            • howardphillips214
              MVP
              • Jan 2018
              • 1928

              #2946
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by CBAT
              One of my running mates is a 6'3 shot creating sharp and he is a MONSTER. Consistently dropping 40+ in pro am shooting over 60%. Him being undersized helps a lot since he still has decent speed. He's developed some go to moves that are difficult to guard and can hit moving shots easily. Also, it's funny since he hated his guy early on, but once he got comfortable with a jump shot and got some badges, he has been good to go.
              Yeah, I like my slasher secondary tho. My shot first, slasher secondary is the most versatile scorer in the game. My floater game is tremendous, got some contacts on him last night and the pull up game is back after switching to athletic 12. Plus, I was running point again last night instead of the 2. I like the SG position because I can cut freely and really utilize my speed. But boy is he a monster in the pick and roll. Play tight on me and my big is cutting, he sags I have every shot known to man on or in side the 3 point line. Deadly. Glad I caved and changed my pull up.

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              • CBAT
                Rookie
                • Feb 2007
                • 471

                #2947
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by howardphillips214
                Yeah, I like my slasher secondary tho. My shot first, slasher secondary is the most versatile scorer in the game. My floater game is tremendous, got some contacts on him last night and the pull up game is back after switching to athletic 12. Plus, I was running point again last night instead of the 2. I like the SG position because I can cut freely and really utilize my speed. But boy is he a monster in the pick and roll. Play tight on me and my big is cutting, he sags I have every shot known to man on or in side the 3 point line. Deadly. Glad I caved and changed my pull up.
                I primarily use a 6'7 shot creating playmaker and the floater is so great this year. I have it on silver, but use it a good amount from midrange/in before the help defense can get to me.

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                • shawnydee
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 839

                  #2948
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by CBAT
                  I primarily use a 6'7 shot creating playmaker and the floater is so great this year. I have it on silver, but use it a good amount from midrange/in before the help defense can get to me.
                  Any tips on how to get to your spots ?

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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19827

                    #2949
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by CBAT
                    One of my running mates is a 6'3 shot creating sharp and he is a MONSTER. Consistently dropping 40+ in pro am shooting over 60%. Him being undersized helps a lot since he still has decent speed. He's developed some go to moves that are difficult to guard and can hit moving shots easily. Also, it's funny since he hated his guy early on, but once he got comfortable with a jump shot and got some badges, he has been good to go.
                    Thats why I want to have more of a shooter for my next build. I created a good jumpshot for my LDD/SC Center but I dont get to use it enough in game because I dont get much mid range looks.
                    I wish the 3 and D builds were better rating wise. That was my orignal choice until I found out how low ratings were since both builds cancels each out

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                    • kdurantmvp
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 527

                      #2950
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      I currently have a rebounding post scorer. But been thinking about making a pure post. Anybody got any opinions on if I should stick with the same player or make a pure


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                      • Housh123
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1173

                        #2951
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                        I currently have a rebounding post scorer. But been thinking about making a pure post. Anybody got any opinions on if I should stick with the same player or make a pure


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                        Go pure

                        The offensive capability you lose out on is too great to sacrifice for rebounding.


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                        • kdurantmvp
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 527

                          #2952
                          Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Housh123
                          Go pure

                          The offensive capability you lose out on is too great to sacrifice for rebounding.


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                          What exactly am I missing out on if you don't mind me asking? The rebounding /post gets 91 post rating. The pure post get 99


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                          • Housh123
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1173

                            #2953
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                            What exactly am I missing out on


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                            Post scoring badges and the ability to actually hit most of the hooks and fades you take

                            I just feel the pure post is the best type for a scoring big. Get those badges to gold and not even pure rim protectors can handle you


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                            • kdurantmvp
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 527

                              #2954
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by Housh123
                              Post scoring badges and the ability to actually hit most of the hooks and fades you take

                              I just feel the pure post is the best type for a scoring big. Get those badges to gold and not even pure rim protectors can handle you


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                              Got any recommendations on the height and weight?


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                              • Housh123
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1173

                                #2955
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                                Got any recommendations on the height and weight?


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                                I always wish i made my guy lighter so I’d say 7’ 3” and around 280.


                                You will be stronger than 90% of the community and the 10% you aren’t stronger than you’ll be way faster than so it won’t matter


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