Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[Chas3]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

78 ball control will give you pro dribble moves, which should add to your game TMac like dribble moves. Driving dunk maxes at 76 (what overall you need to get to, IDK, may take a while) which will allow you to get many of the dunk packages. I say go for it. When maxed out he will probably be slower and not as great of a passer as TMac, but he will be a better shooter.

Yeah I think I would value the shooting. I hope I can still get chasedown blocks and and what not. Thanks for the advice.


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[shawnydee]

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78 ball control will give you pro dribble moves, which should add to your game TMac like dribble moves. Driving dunk maxes at 76 (what overall you need to get to, IDK, may take a while) which will allow you to get many of the dunk packages. I say go for it. When maxed out he will probably be slower and not as great of a passer as TMac, but he will be a better shooter.

I reached 86 ball control last night and looks like i was able to break more ankles than before in MC i will have to try in pro am

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[Housh123]

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Think ima make a vid today with a couple post moves Iv been using with my pure post.


Also in case you didn’t know if your on mobile phone when i post links from OneDrive you have to click the link and tap the arrow in the top left

Then the vid will show


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[shawnydee]

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Yeah I think I would value the shooting. I hope I can still get chasedown blocks and and what not. Thanks for the advice.


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I can shoot pretty well with my pkaymaking shot creator the midrange game is fun. I can shoot a couple 3s but not as consistent

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[P234thetruth]

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I’ve played against quite a few 7 foot Two-way Athletic Finishers. They’re mobile enough to defend fairly well and they can beat me down the court in transition if I can’t trigger the grab animation. That said, I generally outrebound them significantly and I find it somewhat easier to trigger instant dunks under the rim.

For me, there’s not enough benefits to being under 7’3 as a Center. You’re mildly more mobile but I don’t find it to be noticeable enough in the half court. And even on the fast break, it’s often negated by grab animations.

I see, standing dunks aside do you find they give you at least some trouble scoring in the half court?

[Chas3]

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I can shoot pretty well with my pkaymaking shot creator the midrange game is fun. I can shoot a couple 3s but not as consistent

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Yeah imma go with the sharp so I can shoot consistently.


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[howardphillips214]

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I reached 86 ball control last night and looks like i was able to break more ankles than before in MC i will have to try in pro am

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What is your build? Slashing shot Creator, right? What OVR did you unlock the 86?

[shawnydee]

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What is your build? Slashing shot Creator, right? What OVR did you unlock the 86?

Playmaking shot creator. First bar toward 91. Maxes at 86 ball xontrola nd 76 speed with ball at 6'8

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[Chas3]

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Does boost work for team pro am this year?


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[ph33]

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Does boost work for team pro am this year?

My boosts seem to get used in Pro-AM games.

Whether or not boosts actually do anything is another question ... I wouldn't be surprised if they were placebos.

[Thrustie]

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I see, standing dunks aside do you find they give you at least some trouble scoring in the half court?

The good ones, yup. I’m a Two-Way Rebounder so I don’t really have the deepest offensive toolkit but I find they can be tough to deal with in the half court. They’re mobile enough to recover from bad positioning and to rotate if someone drives and kicks to me. The great ones have relegated me to almost entirely scoring off put backs.

Moreover, I’ve seen some that really wreak havoc on the rest of the team racking up steals and blocks with their ability to rotate quicker.

That said, I can eat them on boards and I don’t generally find them hard to defend in the half court. If they can shoot the mid range at a decent clip, they can at least keep me honest and maybe burn me on the odd drive or cut. But most just seem to try to posterize me endlessly and end up going 4/11 or something.

[howardphillips214]

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Playmaking shot creator. First bar toward 91. Maxes at 86 ball xontrola nd 76 speed with ball at 6'8

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Crazy that I'm 6'7 and only have an 86 speed with ball as a pure point forward.

[shawnydee]

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Crazy that I'm 6'7 and only have an 86 speed with ball as a pure point forward.

You still have 10 more than me. But looks better than last year tho i had a 6'9 point forward with 76 speed with ball not sure if its the same this year

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[P234thetruth]

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The good ones, yup. I’m a Two-Way Rebounder so I don’t really have the deepest offensive toolkit but I find they can be tough to deal with in the half court. They’re mobile enough to recover from bad positioning and to rotate if someone drives and kicks to me. The great ones have relegated me to almost entirely scoring off put backs.

Moreover, I’ve seen some that really wreak havoc on the rest of the team racking up steals and blocks with their ability to rotate quicker.

That said, I can eat them on boards and I don’t generally find them hard to defend in the half court. If they can shoot the mid range at a decent clip, they can at least keep me honest and maybe burn me on the odd drive or cut. But most just seem to try to posterize me endlessly and end up going 4/11 or something.

Good observation you know what I went ahead and made one. I feel I can thrive with this build. I have a 7'3 pure athletic who holds his own against just about anybody. I know how to not bite on fakes, fight for position with the right stick, when to go hands up or for the block etc.. He holds his own rebound wise this guy should be fine. I mean even if they snag the board if I'm near I can probably force a miss.

I did comparisons to my 7'3 this guy will be so much more quicker with better vertical and my 7'3 jumped out the gym and was fast for a Center, and he'll have really good defense on top of it. I made him 7'0 290lbs. I didn't want to go too heavy even though numbers wise speed doesn't seem to drop much the heavier you are. I still feel like the bigger you are the more sluggish you are on the court. I didn't want to take away from his mobility. I ran one Career and sheesh he's so quick and gets tons of blocks his recovery time like you said is insane. I can already tell this guys going to be fun.

[Housh123]

Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

The good ones, yup. I’m a Two-Way Rebounder so I don’t really have the deepest offensive toolkit but I find they can be tough to deal with in the half court. They’re mobile enough to recover from bad positioning and to rotate if someone drives and kicks to me. The great ones have relegated me to almost entirely scoring off put backs.



Moreover, I’ve seen some that really wreak havoc on the rest of the team racking up steals and blocks with their ability to rotate quicker.



That said, I can eat them on boards and I don’t generally find them hard to defend in the half court. If they can shoot the mid range at a decent clip, they can at least keep me honest and maybe burn me on the odd drive or cut. But most just seem to try to posterize me endlessly and end up going 4/11 or something.

I have 5 different players and 3 are bigs. Iv also has 2 more bigs i tried gave up on and deleted. Record is around 1700-1000 but since February started i have only played 2s and Iv only played as my pure post. Doing this Iv probably won around 90% of my 2s games. I will say without a doubt that two way rebounders are my biggest issue. They rebound so many misses and play such great defense. When i see any other build come on i honestly laugh. Not a pure athletic not a sharp athletic, not a glass cleaner but the two way rebounder is a top 3 big man build this year.


The rebounding takes it over the top for me. The combo of speed and defense and dunking is also a huge problem. Then if you play with. PG with HOF dimer you can hit 3s too. I always have to use every single move i have to score on them. My saving grace is usually they are light weight so i can bully them. If i ever played a 340 pound two way rebounder idk how I’d react

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