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  • Bankside
    Rookie
    • Nov 2017
    • 97

    #2911
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by ClassicMan
    7'0 250 max shoulder and arm length

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    and you won't struggle vs. all those max height max weight bigfoots?

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    • Housh123
      Banned
      • Jan 2011
      • 1173

      #2912
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by Bankside
      and you won't struggle vs. all those max height max weight bigfoots?


      I’m max height max weight on a post scorer and still have trouble VS elite ones.


      If they have a higher posterizer badge they still trigger those standing dunks from other the rim and you can’t really defend it if you don’t block it.


      But you’ll be just fine against 95% of post players in 2k


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      • Bankside
        Rookie
        • Nov 2017
        • 97

        #2913
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        so the trend is still towards going max height/weight on centers?

        when 2k18 came out everyone was going max height/weight on centers since you won't suffer under big deficites in speed at park

        did they patched this allready? i mean, is there any incentive in creating a shorter, more realistic center meanwhile?

        i dont like to play nba games as a giant, but if i create a 7'0 center and go to park, i won't be sucessfull...

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        • ph33
          MVP
          • Oct 2014
          • 3261

          #2914
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          don't you guys love it when you pump fake to get someone in the air but you get your shot blocked by their elbow on their way down

          putback king = worthless

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          • illwill10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 19827

            #2915
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            I'm trying to figure out what type of SF I want to make. At first, I wanted to make a point forward or a mismatch player like a Slashing Shot Creator or Slashing Post Scorer. But I kind of want to do a 3pt shooter. I don't want to be a pure 3pt shooter. I created one last year but didn't like it because too slow and last year badges meant more than ratings.

            What's a good build to mix with 3pt? Besides Shot Creator, I don't really want to be a offense only player

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            • Bandeazyy
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 207

              #2916
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by ph33
              don't you guys love it when you pump fake to get someone in the air but you get your shot blocked by their elbow on their way down

              putback king = worthless
              Do you use shot stick or the shot button? I find pulling the stick away like a teardrop after the pump helps. My guy usually puts up a pretty quick hook shot but will sometimes do a really weird looking fade so you gotta catch yourself and pass out of that.

              I kinda conditioned myself to go straight for the putback/tip in instead of the more traditional way of snagging and going back up with it since getting putback king on gold. Its situational obviously, but I was getting blocked like that a lot too so I had to figure a way around that stupid animation.

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              • ph33
                MVP
                • Oct 2014
                • 3261

                #2917
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by Bandeazyy
                Do you use shot stick or the shot button? I find pulling the stick away like a teardrop after the pump helps. My guy usually puts up a pretty quick hook shot but will sometimes do a really weird looking fade so you gotta catch yourself and pass out of that.

                I kinda conditioned myself to go straight for the putback/tip in instead of the more traditional way of snagging and going back up with it since getting putback king on gold. Its situational obviously, but I was getting blocked like that a lot too so I had to figure a way around that stupid animation.
                I'll give that a try. I usually go up with the button expecting good results and it just doesn't happen!

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                • Bankside
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 97

                  #2918
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by Bandeazyy
                  Do you use shot stick or the shot button? I find pulling the stick away like a teardrop after the pump helps. My guy usually puts up a pretty quick hook shot but will sometimes do a really weird looking fade so you gotta catch yourself and pass out of that.

                  I kinda conditioned myself to go straight for the putback/tip in instead of the more traditional way of snagging and going back up with it since getting putback king on gold. Its situational obviously, but I was getting blocked like that a lot too so I had to figure a way around that stupid animation.
                  the direct putback seems to work only 1/10 times, even with a rebounding archetype

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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19827

                    #2919
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    I chose Shot Creator as a secondary for my Center mainly due to Mid Range Deadeye. But I'm thinking that badge is worthless. I had to do countless drills to get Bronze because prior to last 2 games, i probably only hit 4-5 mid range in 1st 19 games. I had the badge for 10 or so games. Even when i hit a contested Mid range shot, the badge never popped up. Sucks that my Mid Range may max out to 77-78 at that.

                    But what might help with my Mid Range shot is that I just nearly maxed my 3pt since it was cheaper since i have low max. I think my max 3pt would be 66-68., but having a low 3pt around 39 really affects deep mid shots. As a center who has no plays ran towards him besides a occassional post play, only open mid shots I get are Deep 2s or 13-16 FT Mid Shots off of Pick and Pop. Too bad my center doesnt have Pick and Pop badge. I would have to do any progress to Post badges in drills in practices. I think my Post ratings max under 70.
                    So I definitely know now Shot Creator isn't a good secondary build for a big unless you have Post as a Primary. But, I would rather go pure post than Post/SC because SC doesn't add anything extra. Post already has a decent Mid Range. So all it would really add is Tireless Shots, Difficult Shots, and Mid Range Deadeye if it already doesn't.

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                    • Housh123
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1173

                      #2920
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Just wanna share some post scoring tips I got from streaking with a pretty good shot creator on the 2s.


                      When you post up and you spin seems to not be working try doing it again but first backing up. The spin seems to grant better animations if you arent engaged with a defender when you do it. This is really good against defenders who dont jump on fakes and hold their hands straight up. Also it makes you look fast if you do a few in a row.

                      Also dribble IN THE PAINT. Dont be afriad to get ripped. I was getting ALOT of dudes to bite when I faced up pulled back and dribble once or twice before doing a post move

                      Utilize your post hop shot 300% more than you probably are now. This is my favorite move I stole from the shot creator SG I was playing with. He was DESTROYING dudes with this. Hed do it if he got in traffic and hed string an up and under with it and it was great. Then he also did alot of side stepbacks, into up and unders that got him wide open.

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                      • Bandeazyy
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 207

                        #2921
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by Bankside
                        the direct putback seems to work only 1/10 times, even with a rebounding archetype
                        It depends, like I said its really situational. Usually if you go for the tip in you're already in good position to grab the board anyway. I use a sharpshooting rebounder at 6'11 PF on park and I could get it pretty consistently but most of the time I kick out for the open 3. For some reason the only time I see people attempt a putback its when they are nowhere near the paint flying in grabbing air, sometimes they would get the board but throw up a brick. I don't even count those as tip ins cause those will never go in. I really only do it if its a short bounce off the rim and Im already boxing the guy off the boards.

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                        • Housh123
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1173

                          #2922
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Anybody reading have hall of fame up and under?

                          What have you noticed?


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                          • Kleinevos
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 599

                            #2923
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Housh123
                            Anybody reading have hall of fame up and under?

                            What have you noticed?


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                            Still on gold

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #2924
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by Bandeazyy
                              It depends, like I said its really situational. Usually if you go for the tip in you're already in good position to grab the board anyway. I use a sharpshooting rebounder at 6'11 PF on park and I could get it pretty consistently but most of the time I kick out for the open 3. For some reason the only time I see people attempt a putback its when they are nowhere near the paint flying in grabbing air, sometimes they would get the board but throw up a brick. I don't even count those as tip ins cause those will never go in. I really only do it if its a short bounce off the rim and Im already boxing the guy off the boards.
                              Same build. Can’t wait to get this badge gold. It’s only bronze because I always kick out .
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                              First Team Defense !!!

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                              • 3ShowTime2
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 379

                                #2925
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by Housh123
                                Utilize your post hop shot 300% more than you probably are now. This is my favorite move I stole from the shot creator SG I was playing with. He was DESTROYING dudes with this. Hed do it if he got in traffic and hed string an up and under with it and it was great. Then he also did alot of side stepbacks, into up and unders that got him wide open.
                                Jap, I regret making my SF postscorer a slasher secondary. Didnt know that hopsteps count as difficult shots. Midrange Deadeye should also help with fades when they are contested. Really tempted to make a shotcreating postscorer as he also gets up&under hof...

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