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  • illwill10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 19827

    #3061
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by ph33
    Getting to 92 itself takes long enough. I'm good with 92, you get that extra bar of stamina
    I do the treadmill after every game. So not a big deal to continue.
    Now I'm deciding if i want to hold off inproving player until i get another cap breaker. I know the higher you get longer it takes. So might hold off especially if i dont get a good cap breaker

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    • howardphillips214
      MVP
      • Jan 2018
      • 1928

      #3062
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Honestly, if you bought an 85 and ONLY did what do what he was supposed to do then you'd be fine. But when people compare their new pet builds to the maxed out ones with badges it's night and day. Plus, most dual archetypes get badges they have no business having and to top it off, worthless upgrades in stats that aren't even part of your game. Like glass cleaners getting a 54 3 ball, but put athletic in your build and all the sudden it's a 60? I can't hit with a 59 consistently even boosting, but get me over 60 and I'm a threat. I have actually been advocating slashers have maybe a 70 if they're a wing, but my pure athletic 6'10 friend can green 3s with a 61 boosting.

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      • The Gym Reaper
        Rookie
        • Jan 2017
        • 438

        #3063
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by howardphillips214
        If you're a 75+ rated ball handler, I'll give you my move. I'm tired of seeing people over dribble. If you want the best 1-2 dribble combo this year here you go:

        I don't view this move as cheese, and it can be done very simply. You don't NEED the 86 ball control for this to be effective, but in any game mode I will give you a 99% blowby animation. No, this is not a hip ride trigger, this can even make your man stumble. This is pure first step in its essence.

        At a stand still, trigger rhythm dribble Pro 8 long enough to switch ball hand and turbo cross immediately. Don't even let him get into his animation, you literally "killer cross" immediately after switching your ball hand.

        With any player with ball control at 75 you can perform this offline and break the Cpu instantly. It's better if you reject the screen to create a 1 on 1 at the rim if using a slasher. If using a shooter, performing this move into a step back will be the best move you do all year.

        I think it's funny to me because all my friends say they're "saucy" and yeah they can sometimes cook me. But nobody can guard me with this move.
        Won't lie, been doing this for a while.
        ⛹🏽💀
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        • ph33
          MVP
          • Oct 2014
          • 3261

          #3064
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by illwill10
          Does Glue Hands help with overall catching the ball?
          I know it says crazy catches. But most of turnovers I commit are when I cant completely catch a pass. I'm at the half way mark to bronze. But i don't get too many chances at 50/50 plays.
          I have Quick Reflexes at Bronze and near Silver. I know I can use Reaction tests to raise it. So I will focus on getting that to Silver before next game
          I *think* so, but it's usually dependent on the person making the pass.

          I've seen situations where the ball looked like it might sail out of bounds but then the player kind of warps to it. I'm guessing that's where glue hands come into play, lol

          They really need better animations for bad passes though. It's not a big deal to me, it happens, but it always looks like it's because of the person on the receiving end completely tarding out rather than the pass just being bad.

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          • Rockie_Fresh88
            Lockdown Defender
            • Oct 2011
            • 9621

            #3065
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by ph33
            I *think* so, but it's usually dependent on the person making the pass.

            I've seen situations where the ball looked like it might sail out of bounds but then the player kind of warps to it. I'm guessing that's where glue hands come into play, lol

            They really need better animations for bad passes though. It's not a big deal to me, it happens, but it always looks like it's because of the person on the receiving end completely tarding out rather than the pass just being bad.
            That animation when your player doesn’t know where the ball is kills me every time lol .
            #1 Laker fan
            First Team Defense !!!

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            • loso_34
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 1346

              #3066
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by howardphillips214
              Honestly, if you bought an 85 and ONLY did what do what he was supposed to do then you'd be fine. But when people compare their new pet builds to the maxed out ones with badges it's night and day. Plus, most dual archetypes get badges they have no business having and to top it off, worthless upgrades in stats that aren't even part of your game. Like glass cleaners getting a 54 3 ball, but put athletic in your build and all the sudden it's a 60? I can't hit with a 59 consistently even boosting, but get me over 60 and I'm a threat. I have actually been advocating slashers have maybe a 70 if they're a wing, but my pure athletic 6'10 friend can green 3s with a 61 boosting.
              i know a friend with a pure point forward build that got silver defensive stopper. i dont understand that one.

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              • howardphillips214
                MVP
                • Jan 2018
                • 1928

                #3067
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by loso_34
                i know a friend with a pure point forward build that got silver defensive stopper. i dont understand that one.
                No he doesn't. There's no way he has it and I don't. That website is wrong. I think they have acrobat as bronze and that's one I get silver. Defensive stopper is bronze on anyone without defense in their build.

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                • Rockie_Fresh88
                  Lockdown Defender
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 9621

                  #3068
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by loso_34
                  i know a friend with a pure point forward build that got silver defensive stopper. i dont understand that one.
                  Unless he’s a 99 it’s bronze . Website made an error. Friend has it this build it’s bronze .
                  #1 Laker fan
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                  • Chas3
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 120

                    #3069
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by AshamanCarnage
                    So I just made a PG, 6’4, 225, primary: Shot Creating, secondary: slasher.



                    I wanted someone who can hit any open shot, hit moving shots, finish at the rim, and get the occasional contact finish. My friends run park and have a two way sharp sf, and two way rebounding C, so I think it fits.



                    Just wanted to see your opinions before I start sinking VC into it.


                    That’s my main build for pro am at 200lbs. It’s great. Can’t speed boost until 95-97 overall but you’re fast and physical and can shoot everything. I just wish the dimer was higher.


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                    • ph33
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 3261

                      #3070
                      Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by Chas3
                      Can’t speed boost until 95-97 overall

                      Wait what

                      How positive are you about this

                      I am at a 93 now. Will probably take about two more months to reach 94....

                      It's really no big deal to me, my player gets around just fine. But it'd be a nice superpower to have lol

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                      • Chas3
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 120

                        #3071
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by ph33
                        Wait what

                        How positive are you about this

                        I am at a 93 now. Will probably take about two more months to reach 94....

                        It's really no big deal to me, my player gets around just fine. But it'd be a nice superpower to have lol


                        I’m 100% sure it’s 95 or 97, 90% sure it’s 97. Lol



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                        • ph33
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3261

                          #3072
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Chas3
                          I’m 100% sure it’s 95 or 97, 90% sure it’s 97. Lol

                          Last edited by ph33; 03-11-2018, 06:51 PM.

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                          • howardphillips214
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 1928

                            #3073
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Chas3
                            I’m 100% sure it’s 95 or 97, 90% sure it’s 97. Lol



                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                            Absolutely ridiculous too because I'm ONE point in ball handling away from it. They really need to rethink just about everything. If you make a guy under 6'4 and make him a PG it's completely worthless dribbling the ball online without that initial first step. In this system, I'm not advocating for sharps to be speed boosting, but a shot Creator with high handling should definitely unlock the explosive step you need to penetrate.

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                            • Chas3
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 120

                              #3074
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by howardphillips214
                              Absolutely ridiculous too because I'm ONE point in ball handling away from it. They really need to rethink just about everything. If you make a guy under 6'4 and make him a PG it's completely worthless dribbling the ball online without that initial first step. In this system, I'm not advocating for sharps to be speed boosting, but a shot Creator with high handling should definitely unlock the explosive step you need to penetrate.


                              In my opinion the first step absolutely. I think they need to remove all the cheese speed boost handles. Everything is 5-our around the speed boosting pg/point forward. They took that out in the combine, they should remove it in casual play as well.


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                              • howardphillips214
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2018
                                • 1928

                                #3075
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by Chas3
                                In my opinion the first step absolutely. I think they need to remove all the cheese speed boost handles. Everything is 5-our around the speed boosting pg/point forward. They took that out in the combine, they should remove it in casual play as well.


                                Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                                No,no, no, we don't dribbling dumbed down again. We just need defense boosted. This year people don't even use the dribbles anymore anyways, they just side to side. Giving that first step to more people could induce more creativity than just back and forth on the left stick.

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