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  • boomproductions
    Rookie
    • Jul 2019
    • 14

    #2461
    Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

    Originally posted by jeebs9
    I like to call it "senseless 3 point jacking". Check the below clip out. I'm like here Green. Your wide open. He doesn't realize time and possession here. There is 17 second on the clock when he releases that corner 3. Which I will gladly give him all game long. Even the guy that's getting green release after green release with Green. Yup, hit 10 of those if you want. But the smart player here would have waited to see what the defense would have done on that pass. And waited for Fisher to rotate and leave Curry wide open. I would of skip passed it to Klay at the top of the key for a wide-open 3. So many players don't take advantage of Green's passing.

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    Meh, IMO you are over thinking it. Draymonds wide open corner 3 with Steph's dimer is a high % shot. Waiting to see what the defense does could result in no open look and him having to reset. Even watching that video, its unclear if Grant would be able to get to Klay and get a yellow or red contest. IMO a good defender would switch to Grant and jump at Klay to get a red contest in that situation.

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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #2462
      Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

      Originally posted by boomproductions
      Update, here is my weekly record:







      I've player 39 games in 4 days (yes lol thats a little much) and have found a few patterns as to scripting. It's mainly my CPU movement on offense that changes. I am not an ISO player so I need my CPU players to behave correctly. Also Offensive rebounds are a huge indicator as well.



      I am pretty sure this is going to be in 2k20 and am not looking forward to it.
      I wouldn't call it scripted. Sounds like basketball to me.

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      • boomproductions
        Rookie
        • Jul 2019
        • 14

        #2463
        Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

        Originally posted by jeebs9
        I wouldn't call it scripted. Sounds like basketball to me.

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        This is my first year ever playing 2k, so it might be normal for you if youve played for 10 years. I've noticed patterns that let the losing team back in the game. 2k wants everyone to play their game, and if they could prevent a blowout from happening in order to get users to lengthen their play I think they will do whatever it takes.

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #2464
          Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

          Originally posted by boomproductions
          This is my first year ever playing 2k, so it might be normal for you if youve played for 10 years. I've noticed patterns that let the losing team back in the game. 2k wants everyone to play their game, and if they could prevent a blowout from happening in order to get users to lengthen their play I think they will do whatever it takes.
          Yeah man... I've been playing for a long time. Longer than 10 years. And every person comes in here with the same conspiracy theory. Sounds like flat Earth at this point. Is there a "rhythm"? Yes, but it's a video game. Get over it. If you feel like your getting cheated. You should either go play real basketball. Or go play the other game (I'm sure they have the same feeling). Every game has something. For crying out loud, Mario Kart 64 has something. It's a video game! Go outside and enjoy life lol

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          • boomproductions
            Rookie
            • Jul 2019
            • 14

            #2465
            Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

            Originally posted by jeebs9
            Go outside and enjoy life lol

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            What's that have to do with any of this? lol

            seems like your post is a little hostile, why?

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #2466
              Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

              Originally posted by boomproductions
              Meh, IMO you are over thinking it. Draymonds wide open corner 3 with Steph's dimer is a high % shot. Waiting to see what the defense does could result in no open look and him having to reset. Even watching that video, its unclear if Grant would be able to get to Klay and get a yellow or red contest. IMO a good defender would switch to Grant and jump at Klay to get a red contest in that situation.
              Well actually the best thing my opponent could have done is drive with Green drawing even more help and then kicking it to any open player. It was just an example.

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #2467
                Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                Originally posted by boomproductions
                What's that have to do with any of this? lol



                seems like your post is a little hostile, why?
                Hostile! LMAO.... My man you don't know what hostile looks like on this forum. Enjoy the game man.

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                • ksuttonjr76
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 8662

                  #2468
                  Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  Yeah man... I've been playing for a long time. Longer than 10 years. And every person comes in here with the same conspiracy theory. Sounds like flat Earth at this point. Is there a "rhythm"? Yes, but it's a video game. Get over it. If you feel like your getting cheated. You should either go play real basketball. Or go play the other game (I'm sure they have the same feeling). Every game has something. For crying out loud, Mario Kart 64 has something. It's a video game! Go outside and enjoy life lol

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                  Where's the welcoming feeling, lol? He's just sharing his experience why he feels like the game is 100% scripted. He wasn't around during the times when Mike Wang vehemently stated that the game wasn't scripted. Personally, I took him at his word, but every now and then, I think everyone has those games where you feel like the game is tilted in favor of your opponent. Honestly, I think offensive rebounds seems to be the distinguishing indicator for who is going to win. I can't tell how many games/quarters that I have had where my opponent snatched down more offensive rebounds than I have total rebounds, and I tend to blow my top when my opponent's PG is able to grab the rebound immediately after missing the layup attempt. I'm so glad game controllers are expensive.

                  Lastly, didn't we all share before that NBA 2K seems to be the only game that causes rage inducing moments within all of us, lol? Everytime I have broken or thrown a controller, it was always a NBA 2K game.

                  Since NBA 2K4...
                  5 broken controllers.
                  3 holes in the wall.
                  4-8 noise complaints from my apartment neighbors.
                  I think I broke a TV before, but I don't remember, lol.

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                  • boomproductions
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 14

                    #2469
                    Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                    Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                    Where's the welcoming feeling, lol? He's just sharing his experience why he feels like the game is 100% scripted. He wasn't around during the times when Mike Wang vehemently stated that the game wasn't scripted. Personally, I took him at his word, but every now and then, I think everyone has those games where you feel like the game is tilted in favor of your opponent. Honestly, I think offensive rebounds seems to be the distinguishing indicator for who is going to win. I can't tell how many games/quarters that I have had where my opponent snatched down more offensive rebounds than I have total rebounds, and I tend to blow my top when my opponent's PG is able to grab the rebound immediately after missing the layup attempt. I'm so glad game controllers are expensive.

                    Lastly, didn't we all share before that NBA 2K seems to be the only game that causes rage inducing moments within all of us, lol? Everytime I have broken or thrown a controller, it was always a NBA 2K game.

                    Since NBA 2K4...
                    5 broken controllers.
                    3 holes in the wall.
                    4-8 noise complaints from my apartment neighbors.
                    I think I broke a TV before, but I don't remember, lol.
                    I've broken 2 controllers from playing Madden lol thats why I switched to 2k hoping things would be different. So far I've seen similar BS

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                    • WBjam
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 708

                      #2470
                      Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                      Originally posted by boomproductions
                      This is my first year ever playing 2k, so it might be normal for you if youve played for 10 years. I've noticed patterns that let the losing team back in the game. 2k wants everyone to play their game, and if they could prevent a blowout from happening in order to get users to lengthen their play I think they will do whatever it takes.
                      You are right. Everyone here knows about the 2K keep the score close switch.

                      But you also play as All Time teams which is absolutely not normal basketball and cannot be compared to regular game play.

                      I just lost to the All Time Hawks by a few points with a regular team. Usually I would dash as I don't want to deal with that nonsense. I even skimmed over his line-up and saw Wilkins/Willis so I thought it was a classic team lol.

                      Now that was a rage inducing game....7 3s by Al Horford and some contested...give me a break....he could not shoot those early in his career with Hawks. Offensive rebounds galore.

                      Worst part is I prob would've won if not for the lag.

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                      • boomproductions
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2019
                        • 14

                        #2471
                        Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                        Originally posted by WBjam
                        You are right. Everyone here knows about the 2K keep the score close switch.

                        But you also play as All Time teams which is absolutely not normal basketball and cannot be compared to regular game play.

                        I just lost to the All Time Hawks by a few points with a regular team. Usually I would dash as I don't want to deal with that nonsense. I even skimmed over his line-up and saw Wilkins/Willis so I thought it was a classic team lol.

                        Now that was a rage inducing game....7 3s by Al Horford and some contested...give me a break....he could not shoot those early in his career with Hawks. Offensive rebounds galore.

                        Worst part is I prob would've won if not for the lag.
                        You're right I do use all time teams but only because the majority of people in the GOAT league play with all time teams. If I want to be competitive I have to use them.

                        Something interesting just happened. I played a guy 3x. The 1st game I was the All-time Celtics and he had the regular Warriors. I beat him pretty bad in the first quarter it was 23-11 and he quit. Then I went back to the lobby and found him again with the regular bucks. In this game, it seemed like he was being favored by 2k. Robin Lopez was dunking on Bill Russell, he was hitting smothereds in the paint all day with Eric Bledsoe and company. We played a full game where he led most of the game, and I only won by 8 points. So then I go back in the lobby and find him using the all-time Lakers. Now you would think that me using the All time Celtics against the regular Bucks, with him leading most of the way that he should probably beat me with the all-time lakers or the game should come down to the wire. I ended up beating him 35-16, where he quit in the 2nd quarter.

                        To me, this demonstrates a potential equalizer that keeps opponets in the game to keep them engaged and making them want to keep playing. It's happened to me many times where the Warriors bench comes in the game and Looney starts posterizing Bill Russel. Yet when I play people with the All time Lakers I can shut down Shaq and Kareem? The only explanation i can think of is that there is something that triggers either when a team is completely outmatched by the other or if an opponent just quit against a guy the game with favor the guy that lost in a rematch.

                        I understand why 2k would do this. It is no fun to get blown out all the time. But why dont they just make a "competitive" game mode where this doesnt happen and a "fun" game mode where it does? They just need to be honest about it. It's not easy to spot unless you play A LOT of games in a short period of time, but it becomes glaringly obvious what they are doing.
                        Last edited by boomproductions; 07-27-2019, 02:42 PM.

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                        • boomproductions
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 14

                          #2472
                          Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                          Also I had another thought I havent seen discussed on here. The 2k20 all time Lakers are going to have Lebron as well, probably 97 ovr+. That is adding another insanely glitchy player to already the best team in the game. How is 2k going to handle this? I dont think its going to be fair to use them at all unless 2k puts an algorithm in that will only match the all time Lakers with the all time Lakers.

                          And then 2k21 they will have AD too, probably at 96-97 ovr. That's gonna be crazy

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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #2473
                            Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                            Because one... Basketball is a game of runs. And second like I said. It's a video game.

                            Your not the first person. A lot people thought they would of taken it out of the 2K League. But there is a whole thread of me saying they wouldn't have taken it out. And they didn't lol. I got alot **** lol.

                            I think the Da_Czar said it once in a podcast. They want the users to think. "They won't keep trying to put the round peg into the square hole".

                            Edit: The most important thing is that you won all the games. Because you probably played smarter.

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                            • boomproductions
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                              • Jul 2019
                              • 14

                              #2474
                              Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                              Originally posted by jeebs9
                              Because one... Basketball is a game of runs. And second like I said. It's a video game.

                              Your not the first person. A lot people thought they would of taken it out of the 2K League. But there is a whole thread of me saying they wouldn't have taken it out. And they didn't lol. I got alot **** lol.

                              I think the Da_Czar said it once in a podcast. They want the users to think. "They won't keep trying to put the round peg into the square hole".

                              Edit: The most important thing is that you won all the games. Because you probably played smarter.

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                              I understand that basketball is a game of runs and the video game part. I think the takeover meter is a great way to get that part into the game. When a player is getting hot and then gets on fire, their team is more likely to go on a run and I really like that part of the game.

                              I also like that certain players have that "clutch factor." I have no beef with Kobe, Bird or Jordan hitting a last second shot or being unstoppable the last minute of the game because 2k is honest about them having extra abilities.

                              What im talking about is 76 ovr players get that timely AND 1 or when you play solid defense against them with a 96 ovr player or just straight up dunk in their face and then on the other side of the court that 96 ovr player misses a lightly contested lay up twice in a row. Or when that 76 ovr player horsed the 96 ovr on a rebound. I understand that all of these things are "possible" but the frequency they happen at is not realistic.

                              If people have talked about it before and Mike Wang came out and denied there is any sort of equalizer, then we should keep bringing this topic up until 2k admits what they are doing or solves the problem. Maybe not in this thread, but somewhere we should be speaking up about it.

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                              • ksuttonjr76
                                All Star
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 8662

                                #2475
                                Re: NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

                                Honestly, the more and more I play NBA Live, the more I start to realize that 2K isn't an organic game when it comes to things just happening randomly.

                                In NBA 2k, I can almost call it when a rebounds going to be grabbed unexpectedly, or my opponents about to hit a contested shot. It seemed like everything in the game is predetermined within milliseconds of the action. For example, the game has already decided who's going to get the rebound while the shots in the air. I can't tell you how many times I have seen somebody already jumping for a rebound and getting it, and the ball haven't touched the rim yet. Long story short, NBA 2K has too many shenanigans that be happening against the common sense of basketball outcomes.

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