Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

[snyder2nyce]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

wait till ya see myteam zone with cp3/kb24/kd35/Lebron/D12. Easy way to beat them is 1)fastbreak 2)corner3 and last set screen for mid range shot. Dont be predictable thats the key

[Clark__Grizwald]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

So basically you want to score all the time? If you play someone who knows how to play great D regardless of set, its going to be difficult. In the 1-3-1 not only am i vulnerable to a 3point fest but usually I have no guys underneath to rebound after the shot. It's not overpowered you just need to get better at adjusting.


Like I said in the another thread, zone can be powerful for one reason only.
NO ONE LIKES TO ADJUST.

Everyone wants to run that same offense that put them on a 8 game winning streak. Suddenly your next game is against a player who is great in the zone and you keep trying to run your same 8 game winning streak plays, so you lose and in frustration you now want to label the zone cheese. Start playing with more than one game plan.

Check the thread above another poster complaining about getting beat every time he runs zone. There's a counter to everything in this game, adjust, adjust , adjust.

yep 1 3 1 leaves 3 point line open all day.. and u will get out rebounded by 20+ it isnt overpowered

[bls]

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yep 1 3 1 leaves 3 point line open all day.. and u will get out rebounded by 20+ it isnt overpowered

You guys are missing the point. The user manually takes a guy and runs over to the OPEN man to contest. I don't understand how people don't get this. Recovery time is too fast. You just haven't come across someone that does it. You LOOK OPEN but your not.

Defensive awareness doesn't even apply when your in a zone because every other CPU player is always in perfect rotation no matter what.

[Roll Damn Tide]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

Surprised no one has mentioned the zone change exploit where anopponent can seamlessly change from man to zone multiple times during a possession while hitting the last man back button so they can avoid playing defense.

You can't adjust to that because the game has a mechanic where ball crowding is an automatic steal.

Last man back button?

[prime_clutch]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

I BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE LAST YEAR, i dont understand why 2k dummie down man to man D.. But Zone D is so Great that everybody runs it cause thats the only way to play great D. Get rid of Zone D this is not College

[PurePlayinSerb]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

Post some pics of your box scores

ill make a video right now

in the mean time feast on these images

[OTCU]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

Last man back button?

RB + LB on 360

[Optik]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

For real talk...when is the last time you've seen an NBA team run a 1-3-1? There is a reason they don't and that is because the NBA courts and the proper spacing would destroy it. There are no 1-3-1 busters in any playbooks. You basically have to find a play that puts two shooters in the corner and attack the baseline. Once again though i am not saying it isn't beatable, because it is with some good shooters and ball movement. I am just giving my reasons on why I feel it is a bit imbalanced and why people tend to use it.

Dunno why 2K can't just take 131 zone out. No one uses it so why is it still there? Of all the things that people have suggested that 2K take out (e.g. spin dunk) and things that 2K have inexplicably and unnecessarily taken out (e.g. downloadable slider sets, dual player control), why has this nonsense remained in the game.

On 131 zone busters, you will get wide open shooters in both corners by running the "10 Double (pick and roll option)". Of course, people have countered this by immediately switching back to man defense. TBH, any play from a horns set has the exact same formation and will give you the same look, until they go back to man of course (but then again, you can now just run normal plays).

[PurePlayinSerb]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

Post some pics of your box scores

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zfklxWOBl-Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

will this do?

[eF 5ive]

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I don't really care about how anyone plays, but all you were doing was playing off ball d. Your posts above seemed arrogant. Maybe i'm wrong though.

To the OP: Quit playing online. Join a sim league or find some GT's/PSN's here from OS and play them when you want an enjoyable experience.

It's a game. At the end of the day there will always be "exploits." I posted a little bit ago, but i'll say it again.

Most of you guys who break it down into "sim" and or "cheese" pretty much just want the game handed to you. The moment someone doesn't play the way you want them to you cry about it. I'm all for playing online and enjoying an awesome sim experience but when I play a quick play I don't complain because I know 2K has to cater to the casual gamer also.

You all know 9/10 times on a quick play game what type of experience you are going to have. So why do you insist on continuing to get heated and then come on here and bash the game/devs? Bash yourself for continuing to put yourself in that position.

Doesn't matter how sim a game is if the user is a turd.

[bls]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zfklxWOBl-Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

will this do?

Whoever that was you was playing was in man to man defense.

[bls]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

I don't really care about how anyone plays, but all you were doing was playing off ball d. Your posts above seemed arrogant. Maybe i'm wrong though.

To the OP: Quit playing online. Join a sim league or find some GT's/PSN's here from OS and play them when you want an enjoyable experience.

It's a game. At the end of the day there will always be "exploits." I posted a little bit ago, but i'll say it again.

Most of you guys who break it down into "sim" and or "cheese" pretty much just want the game handed to you. The moment someone doesn't play the way you want them to you cry about it. I'm all for playing online and enjoying an awesome sim experience but when I play a quick play I don't complain because I know 2K has to cater to the casual gamer also.

You all know 9/10 times on a quick play game what type of experience you are going to have. So why do you insist on continuing to get heated and then come on here and bash the game/devs? Bash yourself for continuing to put yourself in that position.

Doesn't matter how sim a game is if the user is a turd.

They don't have to cater to the casuals. 2k11 was and still is the best 2k basketball game to me. Yes it had the spin dunk and lead pass in it, but it took skill to win in that game for the most part. Not to mention LOBBIES. Even 2k8 had lobbies. So miss me with that cater to the casuals. If it's been done before it can be done again.

[Optik]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

Fair enough, zone D is flawed, but it can be beat. Man Defense is more flawed because it doesn't work? Man D is alright against 3 point shooting but if someone goes into Iso mode its over.

What's your point? Are you pleased with the fact that man defense is pathetic in this game so you can abuse it constantly with isolations?

Man defense is so bad because your defenders are basically pushed into the paint by the ball handler. It's too bad they took out the animation from NBA 2K12 where you rode the ball handler to the other end of the court.

[PurePlayinSerb]

Re: Zone Defense Is So Overpowered

I don't really care about how anyone plays, but all you were doing was playing off ball d. Your posts above seemed arrogant. Maybe i'm wrong though.

To the OP: Quit playing online. Join a sim league or find some GT's/PSN's here from OS and play them when you want an enjoyable experience.

It's a game. At the end of the day there will always be "exploits." I posted a little bit ago, but i'll say it again.

Most of you guys who break it down into "sim" and or "cheese" pretty much just want the game handed to you. The moment someone doesn't play the way you want them to you cry about it. I'm all for playing online and enjoying an awesome sim experience but when I play a quick play I don't complain because I know 2K has to cater to the casual gamer also.

You all know 9/10 times on a quick play game what type of experience you are going to have. So why do you insist on continuing to get heated and then come on here and bash the game/devs? Bash yourself for continuing to put yourself in that position.

Doesn't matter how sim a game is if the user is a turd.

its a zone, not a box and one zone, im not supposed to play on ball, and if you paid attention i wasn't exclusively off ball, either way i know it was cheesy defense, THATS MY POINT!!! ZONES ARE EXPLOITS IN THIS GAME!!! thanks for helping me prove my point, although its not like this is new, zones been b.s. ever since they put them in the game, never choosing to correct it, despite knowledgeable bball fans like my self always complaining about it

[demfl]

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What's your point? Are you pleased with the fact that man defense is pathetic in this game so you can abuse it constantly with isolations?

Man defense is so bad because your defenders are basically pushed into the paint by the ball handler. It's too bad they took out the animation from NBA 2K12 where you rode the ball handler to the other end of the court.

When I play association, I can stop the CPU with man D but it's impossible against any user with decent stick skills.

It's even worst trying to guard Lebron James. When he drives, the animations basically pushes your defender out of his way.

I already conceded zone is overpowered, seems like every players has a 99 defensive awareness when playing zone. I do use the 1-3-1 online but 90% of my opponent run zone.