OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch
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Well, thanks everyone for stealing all of my ideas! Joking aside, this worked out great as everything was hashed out by all of you guys whom had different degrees of benefit/hindrance directly and indirectly from the free packening. As always, CD has a huge decision on figuring what is fair and best for the game, developer and user community -- with the added degree of difficulty based on CD's technological capabilities backed by their current (and hired temporary) labor force and deadline of probably Wednesday evening to allow time for server update before Thursday morning event.
Here's a quick summary of everything -- skim through the posts in this thread and main thread (from Saturday morning PST) to see more detailed takes:
Degrees of Action (below are incomplete descriptions of what is possible)- Do Nothing: Game on with CD hoping that new All-Star based squads offset credit spending from loss of some users.
- User-based initiative: Users get rid of AS cards obtained from packening and report to CD for refunds of any resources (RP, credits, WC, etc.) lost in proing cards.
- Developer-based initiative: CD takes it on themselves to delete AS cards and possibly banning users who used/abused packening.
- Complete Reset Wipeout: Flashback to before packening hour with giving RC rewards according to leaderboard.
Main Items of Concern: (probably incomplete as well)- Seasons started before/during/after packening and corresponding rewards
- QG/RC Board Resets and WC from board during/after packening
- AH buys and sells -- and corresponding roster construction after packening (users selling auctionable cards from seasons/RttC lineups)
- RP/Credit Packs bought during/after packening (includes WC and cards won)
Personally (as someone who got the thrill of opening enough packs to pro 7 Star-tier All-Stars without using WCs or star contracts that don't make the main lineups yet) I'm cool with whatever happens. If banned, I have alternate account to continue playing casually, seeing progress of game, and contributing to the board. I understood what was going on and take responsibility for my actions... knowing full-well that I may have broken the game for myself (filling out 25-man squad with event and unauctionable Stars and waiting 4-5 months for Playoff tier) and others (mainly seasons and AH).
As in real life, there is no right answer where everyone is completely happy.. there's only "degrees" of happiness based on compromise and fairness. This could be a preview of sorts of what's going to happen in the NBA with impending cap space boom and possibilities of lockouts and super-teams.
So banning people that did that is the worst solution they could ever come up.
P.S.: I am not defending myself. I am the one who didn't saw the sale.
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I'm interested to know if anyone in New Zealand or Australia benefited from the flash sale. I know it was 3am when the packening happened where I was DOWN UNDER.Last edited by GTPROSPECTR; 02-16-2016, 06:57 AM.Comment
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And few in SE Asia did. Only nightowls, I guess.Comment
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I guess I will drop my last two cents before the decision 2.0 lol
The more I think about it, the more I feel that while a reset might be the most logical approach, it is also the least likely outcome. All the suggestions of rollbacks are simply treating this as a game, a free game, not a business that profits from a game. In any business, say a grocery store, if you somehow bought a carton of eggs for free because of a mistake of the listing price, the store has no authority to ask you to return the eggs, take the eggs from you, or break your eggs so you cannot reap the benefits from their mistake. Same with iTunes, if you bought an app for free because of an erroneous listing price for an app, Apple cannot go and delete the App from your phone. Same principle here. In the extreme scenario that CD gets taken to court, their argument that the packs were listed at the wrong price will not hold up, because they'd still have to honor their product at that price. Now if this was a glitch with the system i.e. they listed the packs for 50% off but ended up charging 0 credits for them, the situation would be completely different. But an error with the listing price isn't a glitch in the system, it's a human error.
Also, to further suggest that a rollback isn't likely, if CD does indeed have the capability for a rollback and they plan to do one, they'd have announced it over twitter to calm and advise the community, and take the server down to avoid further progress after the incident. But the fact that they haven't said or done anything suggests that they either don't have the capability or they know they could not rollback the game just because of a human error.
I think the most likely and best win-win outcome is making the AS cards draftable, and introduce a new sub-tier within Star (somewhere between TBT/Rookie and RS). That way, they'd likely draw some players back to the game with some fresh cards.Comment
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It's not that they can't. It's about how much people will lose over the past 3 days of playing.
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I think the bigger issue is they legally could not not honor a purchase.
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You mean anyone who "purchased" a pack while it was 100% off? If so, good point, I never thought about it like that.
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