***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

[Quick6]

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How the hell is he a bad leader? Because he's getting played very well by the Warriors best defender(s) and Nelly knows his game to a tee and can play him perfectly? Yeah, Dirk's a horrible leader.

The Dirk hate is unbelievable. I swear, the man could make a game winning three and ya'll would say he shoots too much. The man has a wonderful jump shot, much better than almost every single guard in the entire National Basketball Association. Try to explain to me why he shouldn't shoot the ball a lot.

Mods, let's just rename this thread to the "Dirk Sucks, Let's Make Fun of Him" thread.

Also, Quick6, once again, please stop gulping large amounts of Haterade.. Stop criticizing the Mavericks players. You want to know why they aren't winning this series? They aren't getting it done on the court. Dirk isn't. Stack isn't. JET isn't. Nobody is, it's not one player's fault, it's the team's fault, including the coaching staff. Don't say that the Mavericks are losing because they gave Nash up three years ago.

How am I a *****? I love Dirk, he's my second favorite player, I've been lucky enough to be around him and he's a great person, everything I put up there in my posts is the truth. The Mavs need a real point guard, and they don't have one. That's Big D's biggest issue right now.

[SteelersFreak]

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How am I a *****? I love Dirk, he's my second favorite player, I've been lucky enough to be around him and he's a great person, everything I put up there in my posts is the truth. The Mavs need a real point guard, and they don't have one. That's Big D's biggest issue right now.

The Mavs are just fine with Terry and Harris, they've been fine the last two years without Nash, they aren't getting the job done as a whole team, it's not because of a lack of someone.

[Pointguard]

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Hmm I wonder why it's so hard for the Mavs to get decent shots and flow in their offense? Oh yeah they let the best PG in the NBA go, that's right. In all seriousness if the Mavs still had Nash they would have already beaten the Warriors or at least been up 3-1 instead of vice versa, Jason Terry who some believe is a better player than Nash (hold you laughter it's true, silly Mav fans) is playing terrible, isn't setting anyone up and isn't doing anything worth while on the court and Devon Harris is too worried about winning the academy award in the "act like you have dynamite on your chest when a guys bumps into you" catagory. The lack of a true point guard to get the scorers on that team involved is hurting them. Would Nash have stopped Davis, HELL NO, but he would have made Davis work 10 times as hard on D therefore affecting Davis' offense (not to mention Davis' knack for picking up cheap fouls). Plus the easy shots he gets for people would have made it easier for Dirk and company to get rolling, the Mavs are playing too much one on one offense and it isn't working. Hows ol Cuban and all the Mav fans gonna react when Nash leads the Suns to the Finals? Hell maybe after this season the Suns can work out a trade to bring Dirk where he belongs, on the Suns. Marion and Diaw plus Atlanta's 1st rounder for Dirk, sounds good to me!

You dont know what the hell you are talking about and the sad thing is, people probably thing you are right.

Steve Nash was not the same player he was in Dallas that he is now in Phoniex. End of story.

No Mavericks fan ever denies that the current Steve Nash would be great in Dallas. But that current Steve Nash has more confidence and determination now because of his play the past 2 years than he ever had in Dallas when he was just a good PG.

Please dont come in here and talk this foolishness. You obviously are misinformed.

Oh and no one says Jason Terry is better than Steve Nash. But I guess its one more thing to laugh at Mavs fans so why not, eh?

[Pointguard]

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Oh and let me add I do agree that Dallas need someone (a PG or a SG) that can create offense for himself and others, and actually break down the defense. That and getting an athletic bigman, who can play both PF/C and defend the rim are Dallas' two biggest needs, but Steve Nash is far the same player now that he was in Dallas, and I'm very confident the move to Phoniex brought about this.

[roadman]

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I agree 110%. Dirk definitely needs to step it up, but I think he's getting a lot of unfair criticism.

Nelly and the Warriors have done an outstanding job of defensing him and I think it would be hard for any player to do well against what they are throwing at him. Not too mention the fact that Nelly knows him and his game just as well as anyone in the league.

I agree that the Warriors are putting the hurt on Dirk defensively, but it's also up to AJ and Dirk to scheme against that. So far, in 4 games, I haven't seen that.
Superstars rise above the situation and usually don't have 4 lousy games in a row.

[Kashanova]

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mavs should get rid of harris i don't think he fits the style of play you guys got going

[Quick6]

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You dont know what the hell you are talking about and the sad thing is, people probably thing you are right.

Steve Nash was not the same player he was in Dallas that he is now in Phoniex. End of story.

No Mavericks fan ever denies that the current Steve Nash would be great in Dallas. But that current Steve Nash has more confidence and determination now because of his play the past 2 years than he ever had in Dallas when he was just a good PG.

Please dont come in here and talk this foolishness. You obviously are misinformed.

Oh and no one says Jason Terry is better than Steve Nash. But I guess its one more thing to laugh at Mavs fans so why not, eh?

Go read through prior threads, there are TONS of Mav fans who say they are glad Nash is gone and that Terry is better than Nash. And I'm not saying all Mav fans feel that way, but in these forums there are a lot of em, you act like I said that you said those things though.

[SteelersFreak]

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mavs should get rid of harris i don't think he fits the style of play you guys got going

He would be a great player if he would focus on finishing instead of trying to flop around and get a foul.

[Kashanova]

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He would be a great player if he would focus on finishing instead of trying to flop around and get a foul.

Exactly, it might be hard to believe but he is the player i dislike the most in the nba

[Quick6]

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Oh and let me add I do agree that Dallas need someone (a PG or a SG) that can create offense for himself and others, and actually break down the defense. That and getting an athletic bigman, who can play both PF/C and defend the rim are Dallas' two biggest needs, but Steve Nash is far the same player now that he was in Dallas, and I'm very confident the move to Phoniex brought about this.

Diop is fine IMO, I like what he brings, as I said before the Mavs need a true PG, not a SG in a PG body. And Nash is the same skill wise, the changes are two things, he is healthy and he developed a mean streak, a killer instinct if you will. Skill set wise he's the same as before, he's always had the talent.

[SteelersFreak]

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Diop is fine IMO, I like what he brings, as I said before the Mavs need a true PG, not a SG in a PG body. And Nash is the same skill wise, the changes are two things, he is healthy and he developed a mean streak, a killer instinct if you will. Skill set wise he's the same as before, he's always had the talent.

Harris is a true PG, he just doesn't start because he doesn't have polished finishing skills or very much discipline like JET does.

[Streets]

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Exactly, it might be hard to believe but he is the player i dislike the most in the nba

I'll believe that when your signature is dedicated to him, LOL.

[Streets]

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Diop is fine IMO, I like what he brings, as I said before the Mavs need a true PG, not a SG in a PG body. And Nash is the same skill wise, the changes are two things, he is healthy and he developed a mean streak, a killer instinct if you will. Skill set wise he's the same as before, he's always had the talent.

I dunno. I feel as if Nash got much better and became the MVP that he is once he was able to get away from Dirk. When Nash was on the Mavs, they ran a similar system to Phoenix and Golden State. However it was Nash and Dirk's team, and Dirk was never really built for the run and gun. Once Nash was surrounded with talent that compliments his playing style, and once he was able to take sole control of a team, that's when he became the player that he is.

[Quick6]

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I dunno. I feel as if Nash got much better and became the MVP that he is once he was able to get away from Dirk. When Nash was on the Mavs, they ran a similar system to Phoenix and Golden State. However it was Nash and Dirk's team, and Dirk was never really built for the run and gun. Once Nash was surrounded with talent that compliments his playing style, and once he was able to take sole control of a team, that's when he became the player that he is.

True in a way Dirk did hold Nash back, they were best friends and I do believe Nash didn't want to step on his toes, I mean they did come into their own while together. You know how it is when you play ball with your best friend, sometimes you defer when you shouldn't. Not to mention they had a black hole named Micheal Finley.

[Kashanova]

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I'll believe that when your signature is dedicated to him, LOL.

yeah devin harris took over that spot a week ago