Lamar Odom re-signs with Lakers

[bateman11]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

IDC what anyone says. Odom deserves no more then 9M per year from anyone.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

IDC what anyone says. Odom deserves no more then 9M per year from anyone.

So tell me who has offered him more other than LA.

And then I want you to tell me that LA has been too conservative. I mean you guys aren't making an ounce of sense.

LA has offered Trev and Lamar market value or more, yet somehow LA is the villain. Someone explain that to me.

[bateman11]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

So tell me who has offered him more other than LA.

And then I want you to tell me that LA has been too conservative. I mean you guys aren't making an ounce of sense.

LA has offered Trev and Lamar market value or more, yet somehow LA is the villain. Someone explain that to me.

Market value, yes. But was/is that good enough?

Something just isnt right about either situation. Ariza and Odom both get the most amount of money they possibly can offered to them by the Lakers.. So tell me why they dont want to sign there? Thats what i want to figure out

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

Market value, yes. But was/is that good enough?

Something just isnt right about either situation. Ariza and Odom both get the most amount of money they possibly can offered to them by the Lakers.. So tell me why they dont want to sign there? Thats what i want to figure out

Hey you and me both man.

It simply makes no sense.

Trevor and Odom should both already be locked up to a fair amount of cash. It's simple.

Trevor was only going to get the MLE plain cut and dry. It's a damn shame he's not here anymore.

Lamar was offered a deal he isn't going to get from any other team. Once again, it makes no sense.

Lamar's situation has already been explained in the last few pages.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Bateman my fault I completely read your post wrong. WOw SHM at me my comprehension FTL

I agree with you 100000% that he deserves no more than 9 per.

However I still disagree that LA has been too conservative. As I said they have offered fair to more than fair deals to both their free agents, re-signed Brown, upgraded their starting 3..

I'm confident that a deal will get done which would bring Lamar back. It makes too much sense for both sides to come to an agreement.

[HMcCoy]

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I want you to tell me how much stronger they could have come. I can't wait for this one.

5 years 50 mill. Your wait is over, bro.

Should they? Thats debateable. But could they? No question.

There is nothing, no rule, no cap restrictions that prevented them from giving Odom what he wanted. They could have comfortably went into the lux tax, or even back loaded his deal and had a huge trade asset down the road. Home playoff games rake in 2-4 million dollars in revenue each. They could easily pay the taxes with playoff wins...wins that he greatly contibutes to. Any team with realistic title hopes doen't have to be cheap. Instead, they chose to lowball Odom figuring that they had all the leverage...and now The Goods is telling them to stuff the leverage they thought they had, lol.

Again, I think the offers eventually became perfectly reasonable, but their initial offers were crap (if a multi million dollar salary in a depressed global ecomony can even be defined as crap, lol), and to blame it on Mitche's hands being tied isn't true. The Cavs and Magic have said damn the lux tax...the Lakers will have to as well.

I'm confident that a deal will get done which would bring Lamar back. It makes too much sense for both sides to come to an agreement.

Me too. CLE sports karma guarantees he stays in La La.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

5 years 50 mill. Your wait is over, bro.

Should they? Thats debateable. But could they? No question.

There is nothing, no rule, no cap restrictions that prevented them from giving Odom what he wanted. They could have comfortably went into the lux tax, or even back loaded his deal and had a huge trade asset down the road. Home playoff games rake in 2-4 million dollars in revenue each. They could easily pay the taxes with playoff wins...wins that he greatly contibutes to. Any team with realistic title hopes doen't have to be cheap. Instead, they chose to lowball Odom figuring that they had all the leverage...and now The Goods is telling them to stuff the leverage they thought they had, lol.

Again, I think the offers eventually became perfectly reasonable, but their initial offers were crap (if a multi million dollar salary in a depressed global ecomony can even be defined as crap, lol), and to blame it on Mitche's hands being tied isn't true. The Cavs and Magic have said damn the lux tax...the Lakers will have to as well.

Once again, I know we talk about millions like play money, but I do believe there are limits.

Just take a look at ticket prices.

Honestly, unless you show me Buss' bank account I'm not going to buy into the idea that he can simply throw 5 years 50 million out there. That would mean he'd be paying him 20 million this year and every year he was over the cap. Even as rich as this man is, I just think there are limits.

Now, if Sasha or Luke or Adam aren't on the team, sure, I'd tend to agree that Buss could afford it.

However the Lakers have a few bad contracts on their payroll, in addition to Kobe/Pau's huge/ridiculous salaries, as well as Andrew's big deal.

[Bornindamecca]

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Any team with realistic title hopes doen't have to be cheap. Instead, they chose to lowball Odom figuring that they had all the leverage...and now The Goods is telling them to stuff the leverage they thought they had, lol.

Don't see how they lowballed him considering the Lakers are offering Lamar more than any other NBA team. That's the opposite of lowballing. Even if their first offer was low, that's just how negotiation works. He didn't walk away until there was a good offer on the table. The Lakers have offered what the entire sports world said he was worth.

[HMcCoy]

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Once again, I know we talk about millions like play money, but I do believe there are limits.

Just take a look at ticket prices.

Honestly, unless you show me Buss' bank account I'm not going to buy into the idea that he can simply throw 5 years 50 million out there. That would mean he'd be paying him 20 million this year and every year he was over the cap. Even as rich as this man is, I just think there are limits.

Now, if Sasha or Luke or Adam aren't on the team, sure, I'd tend to agree that Buss could afford it.

However the Lakers have a few bad contracts on their payroll, in addition to Kobe/Pau's huge/ridiculous salaries, as well as Andrew's big deal.

I agree...its reeeeeeal easy to talk with his wallet, lol.

But here locally, Dan Gilbert was on the radio talking about the lux tax check he just wrote, and he said he'd do it again next year with no hesitation because of the playoff revenue balances the tax. Not saying every owner should think like that, but the Lakers and their gigantor global bandwagon aren't going bankrupt anytime soon, methinks.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I agree...its reeeeeeal easy to talk with his wallet, lol.

But here locally, Dan Gilbert was on the radio talking about the lux tax check he just wrote, and he said he'd do it again next year with no hesitation because of the playoff revenue balances the tax. Not saying every owner should think like that, but the Lakers and their gigantor global bandwagon aren't going bankrupt anytime soon, methinks.

Honestly though, if it was as easy as you say it is, the deal would be done no questions asked. Have you ever heard a Buss interview? The man is obsessed obsessed obsessed with winning and having the best team in the world.

Bringing Lamar back is simply vital.

To say LA lowballed Odom and/or Trevor is ridiculous, I'm sorry that's just horribly false.

If LA gave him a 5 year 50 mill deal, the worst tickets would literally be $70. I don't think Buss wants to do that, as much as he's sort of raped the fanbase [in a sense, I'm sorry for the crude term, but IMO it's fair].

[HMcCoy]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

Don't see how they lowballed him considering the Lakers are offering Lamar more than any other NBA team. That's the opposite of lowballing. Even if their first offer was low, that's just how negotiation works. He didn't walk away until there was a good offer on the table. The Lakers have offered what the entire sports world said he was worth.

Cmon Born...this is a depressed ecomomy where half the teams are hemmoraging money, and the other half is holding it's breath for the 2010 stampede. If the Lakers are taking advantage of that...even though they aren't in that same strapped situation or waiting for next year...thats lowballing the kid.

If no other players were being overcompensated based on their perceived value to a club, you'd have a case for making Odom an unfortunate victim of the current environment...but there have been several instances where teams have shown their regard for their guys by plunging into the lux. Not everyone is being lowballed.

Even Bargnani, a budding prospect at best, got a 50 mill extension. Jeesh.

[HMcCoy]

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Honestly though, if it was as easy as you say it is, the deal would be done no questions asked. Have you ever heard a Buss interview? The man is obsessed obsessed obsessed with winning and having the best team in the world.

Bringing Lamar back is simply vital.

To say LA lowballed Odom and/or Trevor is ridiculous, I'm sorry that's just horribly false.

If LA gave him a 5 year 50 mill deal, the worst tickets would literally be $70. I don't thinkss wants to do that, as much as he's sort of raped the fanbase [in a sense, I'm sorry for the crude term, but IMO it's fair].

Im sure you know the Lakes fiscal situation better than I, so if you say Buss couldn't afford to pay LO 10 mill, then I guess thats what it is...but it sounds fishy, IMO. If they could afford over 9, they should have come with that upfront. Why d*** around with an important piece? The organization had to know where his head was at.

Good luck, im sure they'll work it out. .

[Bornindamecca]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

We can agree to disagree, Hmac. Before the season was officially over, all I heard from everyone was Odom wants ten, but will have to settle for a little less and will probably take that. The offer the Lakers gave him was right in line with what was projected, and what was projected was widely perceived as what he deserves. It was also projected that no other team would pay him as much as the Lakers would.

If they actually were lowballing Odom, no one would be looking for an explanation the way they are right now. What's written isn't even about the money, it's about the length of the contract.

[fluent2332]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

5 years 50 mill. Your wait is over, bro.

Should they? Thats debateable. But could they? No question.

There is nothing, no rule, no cap restrictions that prevented them from giving Odom what he wanted. They could have comfortably went into the lux tax, or even back loaded his deal and had a huge trade asset down the road. Home playoff games rake in 2-4 million dollars in revenue each. They could easily pay the taxes with playoff wins...wins that he greatly contibutes to. Any team with realistic title hopes doen't have to be cheap. Instead, they chose to lowball Odom figuring that they had all the leverage...and now The Goods is telling them to stuff the leverage they thought they had, lol.

Again, I think the offers eventually became perfectly reasonable, but their initial offers were crap (if a multi million dollar salary in a depressed global ecomony can even be defined as crap, lol), and to blame it on Mitche's hands being tied isn't true. The Cavs and Magic have said damn the lux tax...the Lakers will have to as well.

100% on point.

[Kully]

Re: The Lamar Odom Saga

Small update

Lamar Odom Makes Call To Dr. Jerry Buss
(CBS) I have learned that Lamar Odom had a phone conversation with Lakers owner Jerry Buss on Thursday. I am told the purpose of the call was to rebuild any bridges that Odom's agent, Jeff Schwartz may have burned by not responding to the Lakers offer of 3-years $30 million, and 4-years for $36 million.

According to reports today, Miami is offering Odom a 5-year package.

http://cbs2.com/sports/lakers.lamar.odom.2.1090930.html