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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #2056
    Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

    I wonder how Tyreke Evans will fit with Jimmer. Both need the ball a ton. This is a weird set up.
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    • Marino
      Moderator
      • Jan 2008
      • 18113

      #2057
      Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by 1Rose
      How would I be a terrible GM?

      Because I wouldn't be stupid enough trade away my top scorer and defender and the #19 pick, only to get a guy with literally no offensive game at #7?

      Or because I wouldn't be ignorant enough to take another undersized front court player with almost the exact same attributes as someone I already have on my team?

      You're right. I couldn't hack it.

      And how were the Bulls lucky. Yea we sucked, but when you lose 2 of the Top 50 players of all time, that's probably going to happen. We rebuilt by actually making smart trades and getting value out of our lottery picks sans Eddy Curry. Jay Williams doesn't count. The Bulls have one of the best front offices in the league, not sure I would call that luck.
      Because it tells me you accept mediocricy. Plus, this draft wasnt done by Jordan, this was done by Rich Cho. Charlotte has a plan for once, we got the Tank Commander Maggette to guarantee high pick in the draft. We got 2 projects, which for a losing team next year, won't be bad.

      What's the point of constantly going to the playoffs if you lose in the first round? With the team the Bobcats had last year pre Gerald Wallace trade, they would have made it to the playoffs, and would have been swept by either Chicago or Miami, just like the year before.

      Charlotte wants sustained success, and well with the pieces we had (Stephen ****ing Jackson was our best player), that wasn't going to happen.

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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #2058
        Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by jeebs9
        I wonder how Tyreke Evans will fit with Jimmer. Both need the ball a ton. This is a weird set up.
        I don't think they care at all, I'm in the group that thinks that was a publicity/ticket-selling pick.
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        • brahmagoul
          MVP
          • Jun 2003
          • 1860

          #2059
          Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by BurnsideAdmiral
          Oh I'm actually warming up to the idea of Thompson, I just think we could have traded down a few spots to get him. I think they could have got a D-League guy like Hansborough though instead of a guy we'll never see.

          Overall I give us a B. Not a great draft but with the picks we had in this scrap heap I think we did already considering JVal's buyout. Still think we should have gone Vesely though but whatev's.
          I liked the pick when it was made, but I'm slowly wishing they would have taken Valanciunas. With Thompson, a lot of my friends are saying "do we need another energy guy at the 4?" and they're turned off by his lack of offensive skill. We shall see.
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          • Marino
            Moderator
            • Jan 2008
            • 18113

            #2060
            Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by OSUFan_88
            LMAO, no freaking way.
            We are going to be so bad, that he just might. Same with Bad Porn. I don't think Henderson or Bitchsmack will provide that offense lol.

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            • BlueNGold
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 21817

              #2061
              Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

              Tristan Thompson was definitely a reach, but here's the thing. This draft was paper thin. It's not like they passed on anyone who was that much more appealing than Tristan. JJ already has one foot out the door, it's just a matter of time before the team fully pushes him out.

              I don't know if Tristan can be a top of the line starter in the league, but as long as he has the work ethic (which I think he does), then he has a chance. I like his potential.

              Originally posted by Vince
              I wish the freaking Cavs took Jval like they were supposed to. I'm am so disappointed being a Raptors fan. BC just doesn't have a plan it seems. I understand we need to rebuild but man, we've been rebuilding for like 13t of the 16 years we've been in the NBA. Dang.
              There is a plan. The plan is to rename the team the Toronto International Men of Mystery.

              Seriously though, I know what you mean. I don't think they're in a position to wait a year on Valanciunas and they need defensive bigs. I'm sure Casey is oh so happy about the team drafting ANOTHER Euro.

              Also the Bargnani thing you mentioned (how they said they weren't trading him) is just...SMH. The guy said himself he doesn't really want to be there.

              Originally posted by 1Rose
              Wizards and Kings raped this draft.

              Also, sure it's already been mentioned but Jordan and the Bobcats deserve a...


              DOUBLE FACEPALM!!!
              The Kings raped this draft? What? You're telling me loading your team up with a bunch of chuckers is raping the draft? Raping themselves maybe....

              Also disagree about the Bobcats. Who the hell knows what Biyombo will be. I won't bother trying to play the guessing game. For their sake I hope he turns out well.

              Kemba on the other hand was a good pick IMO. After trading the heart of their team in Gerald Wallace, who was going to be the selling point of the team? Gerald Henderson? Tyrus Thomas? Come on now. And any lack of size or whatever Kemba has, he makes up for big time in heart and work ethic. Look how much the guy improved from when he was coming off the bench on that Price, Thabeet, etc. UConn team to being a top scorer in college, being clutch as hell and winning a National Championship.
              Originally posted by jeebs9
              I wonder how Tyreke Evans will fit with Jimmer. Both need the ball a ton. This is a weird set up.
              Can we get an over/under on when the first in-house fight goes down? Training camp? 2nd preseason game?
              Last edited by BlueNGold; 06-24-2011, 11:35 AM.
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              • OSUFan_88
                Outback Jesus
                • Jul 2004
                • 25642

                #2062
                Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                LMAO @ Tank Commander Maggette.

                You better copyright that. That's awesome. Corey Maggette has the best nick names in the NBA.

                I'm for merging them and making him Tank Commander Bad Porn.
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                • BurnsideAdmiral
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 217

                  #2063
                  Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by brahmagoul
                  I liked the pick when it was made, but I'm slowly wishing they would have taken Valanciunas. With Thompson, a lot of my friends are saying "do we need another energy guy at the 4?" and they're turned off by his lack of offensive skill. We shall see.
                  Yes offensively Tristan is awful. All of his offense comes off of offensive rebounds. I don't know I think if he just develops some kind of low post game I think he's going to be a solid player. Not worth the 4th pick though imo.

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                  • OSUFan_88
                    Outback Jesus
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 25642

                    #2064
                    Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by BurnsideAdmiral
                    Yes offensively Tristan is awful. All of his offense comes off of offensive rebounds. I don't know I think if he just develops some kind of low post game I think he's going to be a solid player. Not worth the 4th pick though imo.
                    Thompson is also great at picking and rolling to the basket. Just saying, he's not that bad. He's got good touch around the rim and is athletic as hell.
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                    • BurnsideAdmiral
                      Rookie
                      • May 2011
                      • 217

                      #2065
                      Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                      Oh I'm not doubting his athleticism at all. He actually performed better than DWill in some combine drills. I just want to see him get a couple of moves in the paint.

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                      • 1Rose
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 2562

                        #2066
                        Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Marino
                        Because it tells me you accept mediocricy. Plus, this draft wasnt done by Jordan, this was done by Rich Cho. Charlotte has a plan for once, we got the Tank Commander Maggette to guarantee high pick in the draft. We got 2 projects, which for a losing team next year, won't be bad.

                        What's the point of constantly going to the playoffs if you lose in the first round? With the team the Bobcats had last year pre Gerald Wallace trade, they would have made it to the playoffs, and would have been swept by either Chicago or Miami, just like the year before.

                        Charlotte wants sustained success, and well with the pieces we had (Stephen ****ing Jackson was our best player), that wasn't going to happen.
                        Apparently it tells me you do, if you're satisfied with what the Bobcats did in the draft.

                        And what do high picks mean when you continue to waste them? Apparently the plan is just to be in the lottery every year and hopefully strike gold one time. But, with their apparent total lack of talent evaluation and value, they're going to be digging for a while.

                        But I digress. I guess being a Bobcat fan, you become accustomed to accepting failure as some sort of success.

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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28962

                          #2067
                          Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                          Mediocrity was the best-case scenario for almost every team last night.
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                          • Marino
                            Moderator
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 18113

                            #2068
                            Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by 1Rose
                            Apparently it tells me you do, if you're satisfied with what the Bobcats did in the draft.

                            And what do high picks mean when you continue to waste them? Apparently the plan is just to be in the lottery every year and hopefully strike gold one time. But, with their apparent total lack of talent evaluation and value, they're going to be digging for a while.

                            But I digress. I guess being a Bobcat fan, you become accustomed to accepting failure as some sort of success.
                            You still don't get it do you. Well watch what happens with the Bucks/Pacers/76ers the next few years and you will get it.

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                            • 1Rose
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 2562

                              #2069
                              Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Marino
                              You still don't get it do you. Well watch what happens with the Bucks/Pacers/76ers the next few years and you will get it.
                              Apparently you don't but its ok.

                              Watch the next few years when Biyombo is out of the league, and Kemba is playing with all the other tweeners in the D-League.

                              Don't worry tho, I hear Sean May is going to make a comeback.

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                              • WTF
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20274

                                #2070
                                Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                                I don't know where you're getting that with Kemba and Biyombo. What are you basing that assumption off of 1Rose?

                                Kemba will be one of the best picks in this draft, and in a weak draft, getting a tough athletic big man for defensive purposes, I call that a big time win.

                                I know to each their own, but I don't see this as a fail at all. Granted, Biyombo probably didn't need to be picked that early, but if they didn't pick him then, he probably would have been taken soon thereafter. So if they wanted him, sometimes you make unorthodox selections.

                                I don't see this as a lose-type situation at all though. Kemba will be a stud. I would have went Williams at 1 and Kemba at 4 if I were the Cavs.
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